Dark Apostle Thirst Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 That is an amazing HQ, fit for any Special Character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinepriest Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 That HQ is amazing! A very menacing pose, gives a real feel of authority/deathmurderhe'stotallygonnakillyou :P Care to tell me how you did those legs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popkhorne Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 not to nitpick because honestly the model looks sweet, but the handle of the sword looks slightly tilted and I think it really hurts the overall model. also you may want to put something in his other hand because its flat on the top. sorry to be so critical, the model overall is awesome its just those little details that are bothering me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 awesome mini brother, don't worry i have like 7 versions of my chapter master :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 glad you all like him. :lol: @Machinepriest:The legs are from one of the mk2 veterans (this guy http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...Id=prod1060038) i had to butcher the model to get the new torso onto him so had to redo the belt buckle and add a plastic knife handle to the sheath once the cutting was done.. something similar could be done with plastic pieces and but if i find something that fits my needs i use it.. after brutally hacksawing it apart of course. @popkhorne: Ive move the swords grip so that its in a straight line now (thanks for pointing it out im claiming modellers blindness) the other hand however i want to leave empty, even something like a bolt pistol would affect the flow of the model and outside of sculpting on a tiny tiny level theres nothing more i could add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 as is my nature.. i decided i could do better with the power armoured version of brom and made a new one.. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image008-1.jpg http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image009-1.jpg the photo has kindve washed it out, but his left shoulder has a greenstuffed cross on it. im much happier with him now as he is more in line with my initial ideas for him and fits with the terminator one better.. and yes i have independant character based adhd.. i blame the capes. Ladies and Gentlemen, you can all go home now. Nothing we ever see will be as cool as this model right here. Well, done Lorenzen, I am tempted to paint a one-off Fire Angel so bad right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 doooo it! join the shiny side! :lol: http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image010-1.jpg done a bit more work on him.. my kitten decided that knocking him off my desk was her sole aim in life so ive had to repair his cloak. lots more to be done.. not sure how im going to do the fire.. might even go mad and try some osl.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 What kind of theme are you using for these guys? Knightly, Roman-esque, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 ive taken some influence from the teutonic knights and knights templar in the overall idea of the fire angels.. something about men in silver armour festooned with crosses and white tabbards i guess :lol: throw in the whole overtly religious thing theyve got going on and their liking for swords and it seemed to fit.. add in a couple of german names like rikart and bromhardt and you have the basic thinking behind my fangles. the main thing that i took from the imperial armour book was the mix of lorin alphas noble houses and people from the hives in the chapter and have incorporated some of that into my ideas for them.. for instance the full title of brom is Captain Alexander Bromhardt, Lord of House Bromhardt, Master of the Pyre. whilst his company champion is an ex ganger who will be using an knife instead of a combat shield (parrying blade) and feature gang tats instead of the heraldic shields some of the company will sport.. the only thing im currently pondering on is throwing in a few bits and bobs that show them as an ultramarine successor despite their influences coming from their own homeworld rather than geneseed (they dont have any particular love for robbie g) by using some of the honourifics that are already present in ia:9 and taking them further ie praetor of the 2nd company rather than "just" captain.. etc etc. not sure yet though dont want to throw too many bits into them and muddle up the original ideas.. might just keep it solely to vale in the same way "battle captain" was garros title and keep it as a holdover from before they adopted their home worlds traditions instead of those laid down by the ultramarines. i think sometimes i overthink things though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 No your right on man I like that ideas. For the style of gang tats might I suggest checking out the heraldry of Kirkwall from Dragon Age II. It had a cool German style eagle done up in across between Scandanavian and Celtic knotwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 i quite like the dragon age 2 stuff.. always thought the amell/hawke family crest was quite cool.. i can see myself writing up some unofficial fluff work for the fire angels now.. and im going to blame you m2c ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinepriest Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 You might want to report your kitten to the nearest ordo Hereticus... It might be a secessionist. ^_^ Can't wait to see this guy done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denrik Greymane Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Apologies if its been stated, where is that chest from? Thanks, Great looking model there too, brilliant pose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 shes not a seccessionist.. she was routing out heresy in the end of his cloak.. everyone knows kittens are agents of the inquisition. the torso is from the sevrin loth honour guard parts, i cant actually find suitable words to describe how awesome that set is.. all the scorpion specific stuff is easy enough to get rid of. plus when you think about it, it aint that expensive either.. command squad + librarian model = £28.70 so your paying like 8 quid for all the additional bits.. which is pretty cool.. especially considering the amount of detail and pure awesomeness of loth in comparison to a metal librarian.. and yes im just justifying my spending to myself.. you can all ignore me if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 oooh that captain is rather special mate, really liking it, and it's made me decide that when I make Tychos dakka honour guard... they shall have cloaks, to this end I require a tutorial p.s. the Loth kit is probably the best kit FW do atm IMO, I was sooo suprised when i got it and had an entire normal command squad ^_^ p.p.s. Kittens are awesome, but they're also evil *nod* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 seeing as its you matey ill put up a proper tutorial rather than just a wordy one in someone elses topic :tu: kittens arent evil some may work for radical parts of the inquisition but its for the good of the imperium that they SEEM evil.. honest.. need to figure out a one off model of some sort to cape up now though.. hmmmmm *looks at helbrecht* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 rightio.. tutorial time! first up we have a lump of miliput rolled out over some tinfoil.. let it be known miliput smells dodgy but for this type of work i prefer it over greenstuff.. its less tacky and easier to smooth out. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image024.jpg this is then cut in to a roughly cape like shape.. i like to make my capes billowy so they tend to be longer on the one side.. if its not what you're going for you can always peel it off the tinfoil and flatten it out again so trial and error isnt too much of an issue. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image025.jpg (apparently i was drunk when taking a picture of this stage..) when youve got the shape you want, take some of the tinfoil off the bit that will connect to the shoulders.. makes it easier to work with for the folds later.. this is another benefit of using foil.. because to speed up the process i superglued the cape to the backpack connector of the model. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image026.jpg the major folds were made by pushing the length of a clayshaper/paintbrush into the opposite side of the cloak and applying a bit of pressure.. nice and simple. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image028.jpg i started to add one of the main folds at this point.. ie the right hand side.. this was done by folding the miliput over on itself, the tinfoil holds it in place and the top part where you cut the foil off is able to be prodded into the right type of shape with a clay shaper. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image000.jpg (finally sober it seems.. and yes this was a bit of a rush job so its rough.. sue me) the sculpted folds are next.. these are nice and simple too.. start at the front of the cape and the outside edge, and push the fold into the cloak with the clay shaper, as the miliput isnt sticky like greenstuff it makes it nice and easy to make a nice smooth crease with very little pressure and only a small amount of water on the tool.. the folds should get less prominent the further away from the front of the cloak they get.. so less pressure the further on you go. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image002-1.jpg http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image001-2.jpg i find 2 folds to work for me it looks suitably natural and doesnt make the material look too bunched up.. of course the thinner the miliput was rolled at the start the more natural and subtle the cape will look. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image005-1.jpg http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image006-3.jpg there we go.. relatively simple cloak that looks decent.. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image009-1.jpg http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/DSC00472.jpg http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/DSC00483.jpg in the case of the most recent brom one of the main things that i think makes the cloak flow a little better is the triangular fold under the backpack.. that was done by bodging a rough v into the miliput with a peak in the middle.. essentially \|/ with the diagonals being recessed.. then flatening the top with another v like the front of a loincloth http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/Image013.jpg (loincloth example) i feel it has to be said that miliput dries harder than greenstuff so is easier to sand and carve afterwards so is much easier to fix mistakes post hardening than greenstuff if your initial job wasnt particularly smooth.. this is also good for adding extra folds later on.. for instance under the right hand shoulder pad on brom i added a few more creases to make it look a little more realistic and due to the nature of the miliput was much easier to blend into the original work than greenstuff in my opinion.. anyways this was kinda quick so any questions about it feel free to ask.. its 2am where i am so ive probably missed something hugely important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leardinal Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 anyways this was kinda quick so any questions about it feel free to ask.. its 2am where i am so ive probably missed something hugely important. Just a quick one: Do/how do you remove the Tin Foil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrangar Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Fire Angels are looking great, as are all the incarnations of brom. One question though, how did you do the backpack mounted bolter on the original? I'm looking to do a Corien Sumatris conversion and am stumped on how to do it. Khrangar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtlebrush Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 That is an awesome and somewhat easier way of making cloaks, thanks for that! Your FA's are coming along very well. How long roughly would you say miliput takes to harden? I've never used it before and I may start as it seems to do a great job for sculpting and I need to make me some cloaks ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 the bits of tinfoil i removed to attatch the cloak to the shoulders were removed by peeling it off.. as miliput isnt anywhere near as sticky as greenstuff this isnt hard.. as to removing the rest of it.. you can just peel it off once the miliput is dry, but you dont really need to.. plus if you arent being lazy (so not following me in that respect) you would remove the tinfoil and smooth out the underside of the cape with some really watery miliput to fill all the creases left by the foil in the 1st place. the servo mounted bolter was made by using a few bits of a techmarines servoharness that had been cut down then adding a bolt pistol to it with a storm bolters ammo clip. and finally miliput takes about an hour or so to dry but is best left longer to fully harden up.. essentially the same as greenstuff.. oh and i use the basic yellow/grey miliput.. the other versions of it have slightly different properties and as of yet are unexperimented with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 thank for the tut, quite simple... now I wish I hadn't thrown away my milliput! Question regarding it, when I owned some, I found that both the two components were so unbelievably hard that it was nearly impossible to mix them... just a bad batch? also, I take it the fire angels replaced the rather nice blood angels you were working on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 i got overly depressed with the bangles and how much i hated the codex.. i still have a full sanguinary guard army kicking about and several blinged to high heavens bangle marines that i may one day get round to painting up as display pieces.. the "grey" half of the miliput is quite firm, whilst the "yellow" is quite squidgy.. it takes quite a while to mix up and makes your hands stink, but i definitley rate it for this kind of work.. one thing i will say though.. dont bother buying it in a hobby shop, i get mine from the iron mongers in solihull because as a plumbing putty they sell it for half the cost (same box and everything) the other reason i got fed up of the bangles was because despite using the same pots of paint on my models they kept changing colour on me (no joke) and after far too much mixing of reds i determined the project a right off.. galan machiavi is doing well though.. hes currently sitting in my case with his combi melta looking pimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 rightio.. update time again, I've done more work on brom, having a lot of fun painting up this model which is quite rare for me tbh.. its mainly the face thats been worked on, but im liking how it looks (why its my new avatar!) http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/bromface.jpg nice close up of it.. little bit mangled by digital noise but i blame the fact that im using a camera phone.. you can still see essentially everything, although his "good" eye is a bit difficult to pick out in this pic.. oh well. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/typhion/brombody.jpg bigger pic of the whole model so far.. not sure how im going to go about doing the fire yet.. i want it to look suitably flamey and as stated before might add some osl to the local area.. we'll see.. atm its yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Great balls of FIRE! The new Brom is AWESOME! He has a very menacing pose and I look forward to seeing him completed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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