irwit Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Hi all Just wondering if anyone has any details on the champions of fenris book. What are the new rules, options for wolfguard troops? new wargear etc? I read the blurd on GW website and so far it just looks like new traits and formations however I am hoping there is more to it than that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 So I spoke about 4 minutes too soon ... from faeit Champions of Fenris:Hardback supplemental codex80 ppCovers Logan Grimnar's Great CompanyFull 600 year history of Logan from chapter induction to the current time.3 of Logan's greatest sagas covered in detailNew FOC7 new FormationsWarlord TraitsRelics6 missions So no more wolfguard troops, this is a big shame I think especially with the points drops for wolfguard jetpacks and bikes you could of had quite a varied army with just wolfguard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3770686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 That doesn't rule out wolf guard troops as far as I can tell..? My guess though, is that we'll probably see at least one of those formations making some kind of Logan wing (I heard whisperings to the effect that it may be 2-6 units of WG and granting some special boon to WG packs, instead of ObjSec, on 4chan, but it sounded like wishlisting as it was so vague. That said it's likely, I think). I am just hoping it is sufficiently flexible and served up as a small enough (repeatable) chunk that it is useable... e.g a formation with Logan and 1-3 packs of WG (tad/power), and some nice command benefits, would be a nice tack-on to a SWU or CAD detachment at the 2000 points level. I think it extremely likely that at least SOME of the 1-click collections on the GW website will be formations in the codex. So, Rose Princes, I personally am hoping we'll see a Logan + 3 units TWC + 20 fenrisian wolves formation in the supplement (and am hoping it can be adapted to other great companies, i.e. by allowing Harald or a generic wolf lord instead). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3770710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Picking up my Pre Ordered Wolf Guard Edition this morning in 2 hrs from this post, will let you know soon as I get it. I got # 473 of # 500, The box set is fantastic, 3 Books, the set of artwork and the Objective coins and I must say, it's worth every sent I paid. This set is so much better quality than the Ork Collectors set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3770716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 omg I am so excited. Spill the beans!!! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3770951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I bet Arjac's shieldbrothers is one of the formations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Sorry for my lateness, my Thunderhawk Gunship needed to refuel before returning to the Fang! Champions of Fenris........ Sagaborn: Characters part of a Detachment or Formation from Champions of Fenris Must always issue and accept challenges. First Among Equals: All WGBL, WGPL, WGTL and TWCL have Preferred Enemy in Challenges. Relics of the Great Wolf: Armour of Asvald Stormwrack 50 2+ 4++ Gives Bulky, Deep Strike, IWND, Relentless but cannot make Sweeping Advance. ( Terminator Armour ) Frostfury 15 Rng 24 S 4 AP 5 Assualt 4, Helfrost. Krakenborne Sword 35 S +1 AP 2 Melee, Mastercrafted. Morkai's Claws 45 S +1 AP 3 Melee, Maul, Rending, Shred, Specialist Wpn Maul: gains D3 attacks instead of 1. The Pelt of Balewolf 10 Beared has Fear. Beasts, Cavalry or MC unit types in base contact auto fail any Fear tests. Unless Fearless or ATSKNF. Fellclaw's Teeth 15 Bearer rerolls all failed to hit rolls in close combat. Warlord Traits: Fire in the Blood: reroll single failed saving throw every turn. Thread-Cutter: reroll all failed to wound rolls. Gatekeeper: Nominate one weapon carried by warlord, becomes Mastercraftered cannot be used on relics. Blessing of the Wolf: Warlord and any unit he joins during deployment have Outflank. Thane to the King: Warlord is Fearless. Deeds Beyond Counting: Warlord has Preferred Enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 wow, so thats where the good relics were hiding. still nothing as BAMF as the Axe of Blind Fury, but better than the standard lot. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 wow. is 45 for a pair of claws? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 fire in the blood is quite powerful as far as personal traits go. Rerolling a 2+ or 3++ each turn (especially if you have IWND, for that matter) is pretty sweet. I assume the armour cannot be taken alongside a TWM? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Company of the Great Wolf Detachment: Grimnar's Right Hand: Reroll warlord trait. Kingsguard: WG, WGPL, WGT, WGTL, TWC and TWCPL add +1 WS Compulsory: 1 HQ 2 Elites Optional: 3 HQ 3 Troops 6 Elites 3 FA 3 HS 1 Fortification 1 Lord of War Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 that is a very cool formation. And actually kinda scary that it doesn't have compulsory troops. You can have all your elites from that formation and all your troops from a CAD. Crazy!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Formations: Kingsguard Stormforce Brethren of the Fell-Handed Wolf Guard Void Claws Grimnar's War Council Arjac's Shieldbrothers Wolf Guard Thunderstrike and The Champions of Fenris, this formation has all the above formations within. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 only real limitation it has is if you take it for WS5 Twc you have to take some elites. But that could be Iron Priests on TWM if you wanted. Though they would lack the extra WS. they sound exciting. You going to type them all out? Sounds like a lot of work. Well, if you do, I can guarantee you an audience of at least 1;))) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 well we can assume the makeup of some of those formations - e.g. Arjac's shieldbrothers has him, TDAWG, in a crusader. Which would be potentially a very useable little chunk of a formation to plug and play into an army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Kingsguard Stormforce: Logan Grimnar must be equipped with Stormrider. 1 Wolf Guard Terminator Pack pf 5 models 1 Landraider ( Any type) 1 Stormfang Gunship Special Rules First Among Equals, Kingsguard, Sagaborn First into the Fray: On any turn that they disembark from the Formations landraider, WGT pack has Furious Charge and can reroll failed charges. Wrath of the Stormfang: As long as Logan is alive, the controlling player can choose to pass or fail any Reserve Rolls for the Formations Stormfang Gunship Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 that's pretty awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Brethren of the Fell-Handed: Bjorn the Fell-Handed and 2 Dreadnoughts which must be upgraded to Ven Dreads. Special Rules: Adamantium Will, Sagaborn Blessing of Russ: Within 6 inches of Bjorn they gain 5++ Warriors of Legend: Whilst Bjorn is alive, the formation rerolls all failed to hit rolls in close combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 looks like they haven't constrained the formations too much (I assume the TDAWG pack can be any size?) also, the stormfang could fit an ObjSec grey hunters pack... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 god, this is too much to bear, man. Stop! Stop! ...no, keep going! Haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Wolf Guard Void Claws: 1 Unit of 5+ Wolf guard Terminators with Wolf Claws Special Rules: First Among Equals, Kingsguard, Sagaborn Coordinated Assault: As long as atleast one model from this Formation is still alive and on the table, you can reroll any Reserve rolls. If Needs Must: When this unit arrives from Deep strike, you can reroll the scatter if you wish. Spearhead Strikes: All units from this Formation, begin in Reserves, must arrive by Deep Strike in your first turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 nice. I wonder how that interacts with joined ICs? When turn 1 comes round, the IC would already be joined to the pack so part of the 'unit'... a bit of a shame they don't get some sort of battle focus to overcome tele-cluster and consequential plasma cannon death en masse, but hey, cant be too greedy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Grimnar's Wolf Council: Ulrick the Slayer, Njal Stormcaller, 1 Rune Priest and 1 Iron Priest Before Deployment, field as a number of IC's or a single unit. Special Rules: Fearless, First Among Equals, Sagaborn Conclave of War: if deployed as a single unit, the formation loses IC, no IC can join the unit with the exception of Logan Grimnar on foot and Arjac Rockfist, However, the Formations Fearless is replaced with Zealot for as long as Grimnar remains with the unit. Wise Council: an army with this formation, can reroll the dice for determining who deploys first and adds +2 to the dice roll for Seize the Initiative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 if you're fielding those HQs anyway, its a freebie. Almost no reason not to take it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpriest Arik Bloodmaw Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Arjac's Shieldbrothers: Arjac Rockfist 1 Unit of Wolf Guard Terminators must take Thunder Hammer and Storm Shields 1 Land Raider Crusader must be taken as WGT dedicated Transport. Special Rules: First Among Equals, Kingsguard, Sagaborn, Hammer of Wrath. Protect the King!: As long as Grimnar is allive the Formation has Fearless, if he's slain, its replaced with Zealot. Shieldwall: Any model in this Formation in base contact with atleast one model from this Formation has +1 Toughness Each time a model from this Formation passes a save against a close combat attack, on a roll of a 6, the attacking unit suffers an immediated hit at str 8 ap2 concussive using random allocation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294828-champions-of-fenris-details/#findComment-3771094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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