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Don't worry, brother, I'm sure Mephiston, Khârn and Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka and will come around eventually...

Thanks for the heads up, Brother Shepherd, because this is both a significant AND surprising reflection of the 30k range*. * HUGE asterisk here: my local meta loves 30k with the current rules, but ppl CAN buy the plastics for use with 2nd ed rules. Why is this half-year core revenue number significant? Because it measures GW's own sales from June 1st until the end of this month, that's how the GW's calendar works, and follows how they launch new flagship products in the summer like new editions of 40k, AoS and, this year, 30k...which did better than I expected. GW rightly and responsibly separates core revenue from licensing revenue (from video games, etc.), so no cover up here. PREVIOUSLY, 40k has the obviously biggest jump, starts leveling off with AoS, then (weird currency fluctuations notwithstanding), just plateaus with 30k. There's a rhythm to it, like BANG, Bang...boop. Because of the negativity surrounding HH 3.0 (not saying right or wong, but that negativity exists), I'd have been glad if it held steady...boop. But what this core revenue number suggests is this HH launch performed better than the AoS one last half-year: So last half-year's AoS launch period AND Space Marine 2's release, £235.6m to £263m was an increase of ~10%. (Yes, Space Marine 2's licensing revenue i.e. royalties is separate, but those players then go buy their 1st minis, k?) This half-year's 30k launch period, and fans of Space Marine 2 might still be here, £269.4m to £310m is an increase of around ~15%. Anticipating your question, what was 30k 2nd ed's launch period like? Taking out the weird currency fluctuations, around 0%. That doesn't mean 30k 2nd ed didn't sell, it just meant it sold at almost exactly the same rate as AoS...boop. Because of the negativity around 30k 3rd ed, I thought it'd be around ~0% again. (I remember AoS's launch last year, everyone was playing that Spearhead game here, it was cool and fast and popular! So no disrespect!) Other factors I'm keeping in mind: - Space Marine II released in Sept 2024, lingering effect - Pricing Update around Oct 2025, yes, that would bump up revenue, but it's quite late, like period ends in November - But Brothers et Sororitas, help me out, what other significant releases since this June? I saw some SM characters To have this half-year outperform AoS AND the initial rush of new Hobbyists from Space Marine 2, this is a significant and surprising twist. I'll leave it here because if anything, I have Contemptor Dreadnoughts to build, but I was expecting bad news, and this is way good news imho.

This is in a strange Schrödinger's model situation. If it is a fake, someone spent far too much time on it. If it is real, someone spent far too little time on it.

The data is clear, my beloved legions imperialis is saving the company.

the data is clear. More Space Wolves.

Games Workshop announces a trading update for the six months ended 30th November 2025. The Board’s estimate of the results for the six months to 30 November 2025, at actual rates, is core revenue of not less than £310 million (2024/25: £269.4 million) and licensing revenue of not less than £16 million (2024/25: £30.1 million). The Group’s profit before tax (“PBT”) is estimated to be not less than £135 million (2024/25: £126.8 million). Further details will be announced in the half yearly report which will be released on 13 January 2026. So profits are up over 6% despite licencing almost halving. My bad maths makes it about a £24m increase in non licencing profits, so £121m up from £97m which is a Carnifex sized jump Market is happy

Here are the three finished melta marines. This time without any grass or tufts yet. At the moment it's quite cold (sub-zero temperatures) and since I'm doing all my varnishing and priming outside, I feel I don't want to risk it and will wait for better weather. EDIT: As always, with my doubts and indecisiveness, I'm not 100% sure about the silver livery for my support squads. I think it looks okay but can't stop wondering whether I should go for a non-metallic colour for the pads, backpack and helmets. With your positive feedback, I know I haven't made a mistake. But I'll make up my mind about whether to use this scheme for future fire support squads later.

Not to sound like an old person (I'm 37...) but its because of video games, mobiles etc Now don't get me wrong, obviously they were a thing when I was younger, but the proliferation of them has increased significantly. As has the variety, ease and quality. When I was 11 I painted miniatures, I did play some games on an old PC in my parents "study", but had no access to consoles at home, nor did I get a mobile till I was 15. So by the time I had a mobile and was allowed to game in my own room, I'd already been doing warhammer to some level for 7 or so years (started when I was 8), in that time I'd developed the addiciton already so was hooked enough that those other things never quite pushed me away from it. That said, even now as a much older man (lol), i go through phases of computer gaming or hobbying, rarely doing both at the same time, because my preferred game types (RPGs) are long time dedication things... i have a busy job and three kids. My eldest has an army and does occasionally build and paint, hes played some games. So I see that as an absolute win... that said, he wont choose hobby time over his other interests (minecraft, roblox, switch gaming, lego, youtube) typically. My middle child is completely uninterested outside of a mild liking for some of the paint colours. And my youngest is only 2 months old... so time will tell. It's a crying shame when they're all named after warhammer characters!

Hopefully Cloudflare stays up long enough to post this! An SoH Reaver.. no doubt psychotic, but may have a sense of humour!

Probably worth keeping in mind print lines aren't even an indicator an item isn't real - given how many GW products (both resin and plastic) have visible lines on their product pages.

Looking at recent 40k boxes, it seems GW is now putting the faction's icon beside the name of the unit. This one lacks it, so its most likely fake. Examples of what I'm talking about:

Finished the set of sisters models that I had sitting in the assembled grey plastic for a while and finally finished them. Recreated some of the old models with new plastics and some inspiration for some kitbashes and had an old cannones with evicerator and plasma that I hadn't finished painting.

My vow is done: This also concludes my plodding along vow - all photos (including the group one) can be found in the gallery: https://bolterandchainsword.com/gallery/album/17908-blackstone-fortress-heroes-by-madao/

Got a less blurry image from a friend.

I can't believe that no one here has mentioned the obvious reason why GW is doing so well. The announcement of the greatest and most realistic Ultramarine game ever, is getting a sequel: Boltgun 2.

Yeah it is hard to tell what will happen over time to get more people into wargaming. No one in the 90s was predicting that a Lord of the Rings movie trilogy would come out in the 00s and become a global phenomenon that caused fantasy wargaming to blow up. People back in the 2010s were not predicting that a Space Marine video game get SM2's reception or that Warhammer would be in talks for a show. Who knows what kind of 6-7 no cap chicken jockey stuff (I'm old, okay?) will come out in the next 10 years to make wargaming blow up again.

Mid 40s here, and anecdotally, yes. There was enough of a spike when the tide turned, when covid bubble formed, that those people can I think carry the torch. My worry is actually Gen Z. I don't think they are going to have the purchasing power to do...anything. So 5 to 10 years, I think a lot of hobbies are in for a crunch, especially luxury ones like GW.

I'm very much looking forward to Gav Thorpe not only doing the inevitable, and long-awaited, destruction of Caliban, but also to make sense of Lorgar post-TEATD, considering how good his take was in Bearer of the Word. Likewise, I want Brooks to do Eskrador.

I’m usually painting the dark, greener Angels but this is going to be a gift. I’m pushing myself to get more NMM gold reps and sets in. I think I am still not getting the light’s pathway on large gold items quite right but definitely an improvement from previous attempts. Thanks for looking.

Finalised the Primarisized Grey Knight test model, The most tedious part of the Terminator conversions is cutting the hip-plates and knee-wing-thingys from the original legs without destroying them,

Yeah my strategy is to build and convert in the wet British winter and spray and paint in the spring/summer. A strategy I have massively failed to implement!

So life has been in the way of hobby for a little while now. I finally got going on my Ultramarines again! This update is my rendition of Captain Mikael Fabian! The description of him in the books are that he had lost an eye and left arm so has bionics. I sourced loads of parts and raided my bitz box to bring him to life! I saw on YouTube that Vallejo was producing some new “True Metallic Metal” paints so I thought this time I’d use them. Really happy with the results: Captain Fabian 3rd Company Ultramarines Captain Fabian 3rd Company Ultramarines Captain Fabian 3rd Company Ultramarines Captain Fabian 3rd Company Ultramarines Captain Fabian 3rd Company Ultramarines Not sure what’s next, hopefully things will calm down a bit! Thanks for looking!

I had been sick with another cold this week, so I am happy that I was happy that I could use the "sick at home time" wisely with a blanket and lots of hot tea. Plus listening to more audiobooks- namely "Cain's Last Stand" and "Day of Ascension". Just as a side note- I am also a big Doctor Who fan, and I am always very happy to hear all the amazing call-outs to Doctor Who in the Cain audiobooks. There are quite a few in "Cain's Last Stand"- most prominent, the book features a "Sergeant Benton" and a "Captain Yates". Only thing missing really is Jurgen commissioning an old yellow car for transport.... I finished my second vow for the Jokaero Challenge- the converted Sentinel "counts as" Pyrovore. The idea had been to imitate the scene from "Cult of the Spiral Dawn" where Genestealers ride into battle in top of Sentinels. I had played around with several ideas on how to paint the Sentinel. Until yesterday, I actually wanted to paint the armor plates in a camo scheme, using the colors of my splinter fleet. And I wanted to add bright rust to some of the metal parts. However. I realized that adding complicated color schemes would have been very distracting, and adding bright rust might have made this model stand out like a sore thumb in my overall Tyranid army. It should still fit in organically with the rest. So I decided on a more muted scheme, using the dark (Castellan) green I use for the swamp bases for the armor plates and do some heavy weathering with a sponge. This works much better. I am actually quite happy how it turned out. This was a really fun project which I very much enjoyed doing. I also painted a group of Genestealer hybrids, which I will just proxy as normal Genestealers in the army. These were also quite fun to do and a nice change with different textures to the rest of the tyranid army. Since I had just listened to "Day of Ascension", I decided to go for the full body horror with these guys- in the book, a Cult Doctor is actually able to enhance Genestealer members of the cult and bulking them out and have them grow and develop more muscle and chitin armor. So these hybrids here are just in the process of being transformed into even more deadly and monstrous killing machines, the growing flesh even growing and fusing with their clothing and armor, and some oozing sores and scars developing where the original human flesh tries to resist the transformation. Up next- I will paint something bigger for a change and will paint up the McFarlane Genestealers as well as a big Monster for the army- a mighty Swarmlord.

I actually feel quite positive about GW’s future with the next generation. There are several video games on the horizon: RTS titles like Dawn of War and Mechanicus, and RPGs such as Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy, which will probably remain more niche. Then you’ve got the big blockbuster, Space Marine 3. I think Dawn of War and Space Marine 3 in particular have a strong chance of attracting people who aren’t already in the hobby, and that could bring new players into Warhammer as a whole. On top of that, there’s Amazon’s project. I think this could be crucial for GW’s future exposure to new audiences. If they manage to get it right, meaning they’ll probably need to rein in Amazon’s worst tendencies, it could introduce a massive number of new players to the setting. The key thing GW need to nail, which they haven't yet, is when these projects release, they need the hobby side of things in lock-step. So when SM3 releases, they need a Titus model, with a basic paint set in one box etc at a cheap price as a gateway to the hobby. As an Ultramarine fan boy, my humble suggestion, is at the launch of SM3, the UMs receive a whole host of new, exclusive, units that can be seen in the game - better yet, all future SM releases should be UM, and put Matt Ward back in charge of codex duties

Guess who jumped to another project? Yeah... So anyway, I wanted to do my own version of the Warhammer+ Infinity's Lament because I think the eldar are frequently done dirty in the lore and a model of a spirit seer retrieving the soul of one of his fallen charges is pretty cool for GW to do. But I sure as hell ain't buying a year of WHTV or paying the eBay prices for one. My 3d printer is temporarily out of action but I'd been wanting to get back a traditional conversion lately anyway. I thought I may have to print the arms for the spirit seer, but when I was digging around in my eldar sprues I was reminded that I bought a box of Voidscarred corsairs and that took care of that. Oh, because I don't really play anymore I want all my figures to face the same way - usually to their left - so I'm going to be doing a mirrored version of the original. Since I was trying not to use my printer, I do have a plastic wraithlord but I didn't want to chop it up for this so I dusted off the Oyumaru to mold and cast some copies made with Apoxisculpt. Coincidentally, this makes the battle damage even easier to do than the normal plastic or resin 3d printed version. While the Apoxisculpt was still soft I scored the back piece and snapped it along that line, and also used a variety of tools to damage the head. With some plastic rod I made a smaller version of the vertebrae-like structure you can see inside the head of the official model. Also copied the back piece of the plastic torso and an arm, but didn't mind sacrificing one of the open hands for this. Early bluetac sketch looks pretty good IMO, bu now the real chopping and surgery begins. And apparently you can put less than half the total picture size since I last posted here, so here's the sketch pic.

This is a big one I think. I feel a lot of GW current bumper growth is due to the kids who couldn't afford everything they wanted from GW 20-30 years ago now being adults with spending money. Hence all the nostalgia callback in products the past few years. But I do worry how much new future nostalgia is being created for kids these days.

Also I think 'the internet' falls into the trap of "I don't like it e.g. it won't sell well." Anecdotal, but I have 7 flgs in my area and they all sold out of 3rd edition HH stuff at launch and are usually having trouble keeping new releases in stock.

I am once again asking BL for The Moirae Schism mini series we deserve. It has it all, fantastic period (Nova Terra Interregnum), fantastic premise (what if the Emperor is speaking to us thru the astronomicon), and fantastic avenues of story progression. To start off we have Moirae, a minor forge word doing its thing, one day 3 tech mystics (love it) notice they can detect patterns in the flickering of the astronomicon, and devise a way to read them. Like this is a solid book 1 already, how did they notice? How much of this is tech and how much is warp based? Is it a case of the Emperor screaming into the light? Is his mind bleeding out as he battles on? Are the Tech Mystics just given the grade 1 good cush?. So they start making predictions, they start writing stuff down, people start tallking, cults are forming, they call in local Church members, Marines, other forges, a dogma starts to form all on Moirae. Then Mars hears about this, someone is despatched, probably laughing all the way about these provincial tech priests and their silly ideas. He gets there, people are oppenly talking about the Fall of both the Mechanicus and the Church, the restructuring of the Imperium, union of the faith, the Emperors plans, the fall of Cadia and the splintering of the galaxy. Mars declares it Heresy and sends death out in the stars. Moirae burns. Its teachings do not, they spread, and suddenly we have the rare chance for a different kind of war, as theological civil strife grips the Mechanicus, which is too often forgotten to be a faith first and foremost. But like any good schism it does not stay in the halls of the church, Astartes, the wider imperial clergy and most likely Imperial Industrial worlds are all caught up. Introduce the Inqusition which is itself plagued by a sudden burning question, was Moirae correct in its core belief that the Emperors will can be read in the Astronomicon. We know by way of the black legions books, that power and beings reside in the blinding light. We know the Emperor guides it. I want a exploration of the Cults faith, i want realpolitics clashing with the fear of the supernatural, i want Astartes debating Clergy while the Imperium is far far too Busy with the ACTUAL segmentum wide defection/civil war. Navigators, the keepers of the astronomicon, they are all drawn in. Suddenly strange beliefs and events are woven into the new beliefs. It mutates and spreads like all good religious dogma does. I want after the Initual attempt at a Ultra violent solution by the Orthodox Mechanicus fails, the sad reality of a centuries long theological struggle to settle in, and for us to use the extended lifelines of Imperial characters (Mech, Marines, Inquisition, Upper clergy) to follow this. I want the Martian parliment in shambles and the Mechanicus day to day life to not really be affected, because as most high level dogma nothing would actualy change for the normal joe believer. I DO NOT WANT, chaos, xenos or the classic boring subversions. Learn the mistake of the Beast arises and realise you dont need to shoehorn in multiple factions. There is no need for it. And i want it all to end with the Orthodox crushing the movement while secretly hording every scrap of data beucause after all the realpolitic, all the blood and supression, THEY DONT KNOW IF THEY RIGHT, in point of fact they are scared to their core that they secretly know they were. And all the while you lay the Nova Terra mess out in the backround...ready for its own series.

I think they missed a trick by not doing an Eldar box as they didn't get an army box on release. There are several new and fairly pricey squads of Aspect Warriors which would make a box a good value proposition. Ah well, maybe next year.

So, here's for something different. If you're following my hobby woes, you might've notices that despite me pressing for the faux-'Eavy Metal style, I'm bickering about edge highlighting looking for a way to avoid edge highlighting. After doing some Google searches, I've discovered the world that I was vaguely familiar existed but never truly delved into: the world of youtube/instagram/influencer painters, their tutorials and works. Dipping my toes into that world, I did some thinking and some trying. The quick fixes they offered didn't work, frankly. This means that either I should practice more or satisfactory results require time. The thing that stood out, though, was the 'pro paint jobs' I've seen and that now plagues my social media (damned be cookies!). With the realisation that quick solutions don't work (i.e. don't yield the results I expected them to do) and that 'pro level painting' is beyond my available time and won't work for a gaming-oriented project, I abandoned these forays and returned to painting my melta guys. But some seeds from these searches were planted. Sure, I though, I can try some of the 'pro level painting' stuff for the large AoS models in the future. But... am I actually able to paint to a higher standard? ***The following is a recollection of my stream of hobby consciousness. Be warned and feel free to skip this.*** I don't have the time for that, I thought again. I need to paint my Black Templars and Purple Primaris. But there's the second-hand Indomitus Captain somewhere, in one of those boxes. I can't really find a way to fit him in my Primaris Project. And that shield, it's ridiculous, too! Too big and bligy for my vanilla marines. I should try and kitbash him. I managed to find him, including the head with the visor up and got to attempted kitbashing. An hour later, I failed miserably. I tried various configurations of weapons, arms; I really wanted to make him hold the shield in a battle-stance, but due to it's size it didn't work. It's time to get rid of him. This time for good. But, then again... it's a cool model in principle. What if... just what if I try to paint him as a test model - just to see what I can do. *** I primed the model, took a half-day off and got around to painting the model. This way I got rid of him AND got a chance to do something different. Something exciting. EDIT: PLEASE NOTE THAT I FAILED TO REALISE THAT I SOMETHING MESSED THE WHITE BALANCE OF THE PHOTOS. Apologies, but I can't be bothered to reupload them. The purple IRL is much warmer. Hours later, I think I've managed to paint the purple armour: Since I still haven't bought a light box, taking photos of the model was a bit difficult. I wanted/needed to capture the shading/volume. I set up two light sources to remove the natural shine - this worked surprisingly well. I'm not sure about the fidelity of the photos, though. They seem a bit over-processed and, for once, I think they make the model look a bit better than in real life. Also, I've uploaded the photos in a higher resolution than normally: since this is my attempt at 'best I can do,' I'll have to be braver than usual :P The worst part is the right greave - I just couldn't make the reflection/gradient/highlight right - and believe me, I TRIED (I was going back and forth for around an hour). In fear of ruining more, I'll leave it as-is. The rest is painted up to the planned standard. What's not apparent in the photos, I wanted to try and make the bottom part of the model a bit darker and cooler; the torso (and later, backpack) are supposed to be more vibrant and warmer. The idea is to draw attention to the top of the top part of the model. I'm not yet sure if I've succeeded: I'll probably need good natural lighting to make sure (I'm using a regular desk lamp with a relatively warm bulb). For the highlighting, I decided on two imaginary light sources: one at a slight angle, from the front (in a way to illuminate the left leg behind the shield) and one from the back. So, while not exactly pro-level influencer/painter level, I'm stoked with this; painting the model differently is very refreshing. Regardless, I'm quite happy with what I have here. It's a better first attempt than I expected. It also made me empirically realise that I don't have enough hobby time to do this kind of painting on a larger scale. Since this is supposed to be my showpiece miniature, I think I'll also brave some OSL (never did that before) and even perhaps NMM. In the next couple of days, I think I'll get back to finishing the melta marines for the 12 Months Challenge so that I can pledge this guy there, too. I'm looking forward to reading your feedback. Since I'm surprisingly content with what I painted, I'm particularly keen on reading about things to improve/fix. The world of building volume is new to me.

I went out for a few drinks with some friends over the last weekend. One night cost me over £100. It's funny how that suddenly makes the new Battleforces look like a bargain.

Heads up to UK Fraters - Hachette have got a Black Friday offer on, you can pick up the terrain set for 15%off their £80 selling price, which is £68. An absolute steal considering that terrain would cost over £200 direct from GW..! Also, all Combat Patrol issues are sold out, so no discount on those unfortunately

Vow completed :)

First, I would like to see them completing unfinished series like the Steve Parker's Deathwatch books, the IH one with Stronos, the Black Legion third book, the IW with Honsou and Perturabo during the 13th black crusade, etc.

My first actual post here and with it my first mini I've painted. Ancient Belion of the Dark Angels chapter - stock Dreadnought with resin printed accessories (the shin and arm guards are downscaled Titan parts, sword is ripped from Elden Ring) and Miliput modelled details (the rough weld parts and the parchments and cloth). The rough texture on the mini is Miliput dilluted with IPA and then applied with a brush before priming. Lots more detail work to do on the mini and especially the base (which I've just started - it's missing mud, water pools and grass). From the start I'll say I've done a big mistake of assembling the mini and putting him on the base before painting. It was... well, a real pain to get to some parts (memo for the other minis). I'd love to hear your feedback, I really want to improve (first attempt at a mini after all). Also, have to step up my lighting game, the colors are a lot more saturated than on the images. This image is close to the actual saturation.

The designer did the nameplate and his 30k model has the same weapon its just a different fist its more like the Solarite Gauntlets. I, Arkley, embark on the 12 Months of Hobby Challenge, and for the month of November pledge to complete 1 Red Scorpion Apothecary Biologis by month's end.

Speaking of Simpsons references, it's only taken me 10 hours to get the reference in the thread title Clearly, my Simpsons* knowledge is rusty of late *classic 1990's episodes, when it was good On topic, despite the complaints and the 'HH3 has failed!!!1one' commentary on YouTube and the like, it does seem it has been a success for GW. Almost every one of the Heresy players in my local scene bought a box, and I know at least a couple of people that started Heresy armies just because of it. (I did the slightly scummy thing of sourcing my Mk2 Marines from resellers )

This is when Fire Warrior 2 is announced, alongside the plastic Orca release.

Absolutely, there was a vocal component online at launch which had issues with HH3.0 but that doesn't mean retailers were left holding the bag. (Not to say Saturnine is a continuous starter set, so any excess stock would still be able to sell throughout this editions cycle.) The AOS Dominion box for example felt to me like a far more egregious example with even GW themselves putting it on extra discount during Black Friday, a thing not seen for a decade, or since. At some point I saw that box discounted to 50% off at places. If we see Saturnine dive that low during the coming holiday season we'll have actual indicators stores are unable to shift their stock.

Where can I sign?

Hello all excited to be apart of this community. I've been a casual fan of Warhammer (40k) for about 13 years. I've gotten into the hobby in the past 5 years. Nowadays I play 40k, AoS and a few other table top wargames. I do enjoy all parts of the hobby currently; lore, painting, modeling, and playing. The armies that I play are, space marines (Dark angels), chaos space marines (Red Corsairs), Eldar (Ulthwé themed aspect warriors and wraiths, really hoping we get more Corsair stuff), death guard, and most recently I have been printing an ad mech army. One of the my current favorite sub hobbies is rules writing and analysis. I have been trying to play as diverse a set of wargames to learn more about wargame rules design. My goal this next year is to build a Web app for building, sharing and rating battle scenarios so that the flavor players can have a way to pull from a large repo of missions. Looking forward to participating in conversation!

Progress report: I think I did most of the backpack purple; I've also made further attempts to 'fix' the right greave and did minor adjustments to the chest plate (right under the aquila). This time, I made an attempt to get the white balance (more) right.

There is also the fact that as people get older, we tend to come to the understanding that "disposable" does not mean "must all be spent, always." Sometimes we do boring things like saving for the future, or saving up to put deposits on a home or vehicle etc. Just because we have more money available to spend, it does not mean we always feel the same way about spending it as we did when we were young.

I've had second thoughts.... All I want is this:

Well after not touching a paintbrush for the best part of three weeks for various reasons, I got re-set yesterday, Final running lights added to complete the xiphons and gathered up a November target: 6 SA guys, I'm finding the command guys a massive drag compared to the normal troops, so really de-motivated to add a second tercio when they are needed part, also a bunch of odd bits to get the dracosan finished

I got some base coating done last night. Hopefully I can start getting some pre weathering done today

Started blocking out the black and metallic areas on some tactical marines, mostly working on the bonding studs during a bit of free time this evening. I regret not painting the pads black and just picking the studs out with metallic highlights! Still lots of dark areas to block out. After that I will touch up the white where I’ve gotten messy. Eye sight and hand steadiness is not what it used to be, which is part of why I think I’ve been avoiding working on these the last month+. Kick off of my local group’s semi-narrative campaign is this weekend. So far behind where I wanted to be with the Luna Wolves…but I’m trying to get back into a schedule.

And My pledge is now complete: More here:

I was mulling over trying to do a Defiler along the lines of the below piece of fanart before it was revealed that EC had lost them. Of course, the same artist (Eddy Gonz) has also done some amazing Iron Warriors stuff, including their take on a very Defiler-esque Perturabo: