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Been doing some numbers on how much damage we can get per point. There are some numbers here that really surprise me, the most obvious one is how little dmg a DC dread does assaulting (considering the points you are paying), compared to shooting units. Jump plasma vets do more dmg to a veichle (just dropping down and shooting) than a DC dread does shooting and assaulting combined. Overall things seems fairly balanced, considering the low survivability of infantry they should be doing more dmg (and they do). Considering how much harder it is to assault a unit compared to shooting. And with the new fall back mechanics, assault is not in a great place as a pure dmg dealer. I'm not discounting the phase, but the big advantage with assault units appears to be to stop expensive models from shooting and general disruption. Not saying assault is dead, it's just very different and more flexible now , so naturally the dmg should be lower, but is it too low? The other glaring issue is how tanky razorbacks are compared to how much dmg they put out. Most veichles are at the 500% mark in terms of durability, infantery is hard to calculate, but we can assume it's very low and slightly better for long range units. Shooty dreads seem to be in a good place, the Predators not so much. Fire Raptor is looking really strong as the range is better than a Stormraven and it fits vs both infantry and mech lists. Vs many smite lists it can be tricky to yolo in a stormraven, raptor has a nice advantage there. I have not added T8 models only t7 with and without invul, but it's fair to assume that Lascannons > everything else due to str9. Disclaimer: The dmg to point effiency is purely raw dmg. Some of these units are better geared towards infantry (fire raptor, wyvern etc.) Some have better range/mobility. The rating only considers raw dmg, and does not factor in other things that can be useful. Edit: I havent double checked all numbers, please let me know if you find any errors. We are not assuming any auras, so bs2+ ven dreads would drop slightly in efficiency with re-rolls compared to bs3+. http://remtek.be/40k/8thmath.png