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Okay, my original work on this chapter was in my blog, sadly lost. I also posted some teasers subsequent to July 13, also lost when our database suffered some foul Dark Mechanicus corruption. What I'm working on is the basic background of the chapter. Certain things are set in stone: Chapter adheres to the Codex Astartes Chapter is a replacement for a lost chapter (more on that in a bit) My focus right now is the basic genesis of the chapter. The key is that the chapter was created from the survivors of an older chapter that, due to some perfidy, was lost. The chapter's name includes the word "vengeance" as part of this - the new chapter swore to avenge the older chapter from which they were descended. Whether or not that older chapter had the "hawk" element in the name/chapter badge or the same/similar colors is in question. I'm of a mind that the orange was probably part of the older livery, but that the black flames were a new innovation. So my current concept is that the older chapter was one of the Judged. While most of the chapter fell to Chaos, a core group survived and, along with the Vorpal Swords, enacted their vengeance on Saint Basillius. Afterward, though the group was deemed pure, there were not enough to sustain the original chapter. Moreover, the original fortress monastery and homeworld were probably destroyed by Basillius' minions. So with 30 chapter lost in the folly of the Abyssal Crusade, a new founding was ordered to replace the losses. The survivors formed the core of a new chapter. Of the Judged chapters, the Vengeance Chapter leaps out, but that may be too convenient of a device. So I may use some other chapter whose name suggests a hawk emblem. Of the judged, the following stand out as candidates: Chorus of Eltain (name doesn't really support a hawk emblem, but doesn't counter one, either) Illustrians (another neutral badge implication) Invictors (I love this name) Justicars (another good name, though also neutral on badge implications) Knights Excelsior Lectors of Ixis Sanctors of Terra (another name I like) Sentinels Sigilites (meh, but possible) Viridian Consuls (the various "consuls" chapters often use similar hawk head badges, though the inclusion of the color viridian in the name argues against either orange or dark grey as one of the primary colors of the old chapter) Realistically, the name of the old chapter probably doesn't matter for my purposes. The only instance in which it might matter is if GW, Forge World, Fantasy Flight Games, etc. provide lore for the chapter whose name I use. If such official lore doesn't work for my DIY, I can very easily change to one of the other Judged chapters as my original chapter. If I was going to use one of those listed above, I favor the Invictors, Sanctors of Terra, Justicars, and Knights Excelsior. The new (Vengeance Hawks) chapter, then, has sworn vengeance on multiple fronts. First is Saint Basillius (taken care of in the lore) and the forces loyal to him - Codex: Chaos Space Marines mentions how Saint Basillius had "'puritas divisions' [that] included several Chapters of Space Marines, each of which was extremely fierce in their vigilance" under his influence. If one or more of these allied chapters was responsible for putting the original chapter's world to the sword, the new chapter would also direct oaths of vengeance upon this chapter. This would set the stage for later conflicts. Most importantly, the new chapter would also swear oaths of vengeance upon those battle-brothers that succumbed to Chaos on the ill-fated crusade. This would set the stage for operations against the resulting traitor chapter/warband(s). Alternately, I might use some other lost chapter, possibly even creating my own from whole cloth and not drawing upon any official lore. In this case, the vengeance that the chapter is enacting would be directed at those that were either responsible for the loss of the old chapter (if some external forces) or the traitors from the old chapter (if it was a simple fall to Chaos). My fear here is that the result would look like a common device and would be a homegrown parallel of the Unforgiven (and I have no intention for this chapter to be among the Unforgiven). For now, I'm focused solely on this aspect of the chapter - the old chapter from which it descends and the circumstances around that chapter's loss. Feedback is appreciated as this element is, I think, the one where I'm likely to get the most flak from Liberites if I make the "wrong" decision.