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So I started a more 'speculative ' thread in the Ultramarines section but now that they're officially out I thought it would be a good time to have a strategic discussion on them. ( not a fluff discussion). Well I managed to use some of the models and proxy some for the sake of getting them on the table and I really haven't been sold on them. I know it's early but I was one of the guys who loved the look and they appealed to me on many levels so I've been using them. So far I really don't get the Intercessor squad. It stiff feels to me like I'm better off with the base Tacticals, heck even more so the Scouts. I think Scouts are easily my favourite troop right now. Intercessors seem too... vanilla for their points. Inceptor squads actually feel a great deal to me like an expensive Tau unit. They do hit hard but are extremely hard to support and as such they do feel flimsy on their own. I've never thrown them away, however with their ability and range, they do need to be aggressive. I feel like they need Termies to babysit them perhaps. I haven't fielded the plasma squad yet so no comment yet. What do you guys think? Are you seeing value on the table top or just a mediocre choice? Perhaps there's some good combo's? I will keep trying them personally as I do like the aesthetics.