Antman677 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hi all, Heres my pre-heresy belial conversion, will probably be for a DA successor chapter as soon as figure out the fluff... comments and critiques welcome! http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/ravion_front.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/ravion_front2.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/ravion_back.jpg closeer up view... http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/ravion_front_close.jpg close up of the cape made from a huge dead lion trophy... http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/ravoion_lion_close.jpg inspiration from angels_blade and scibor's black templar termie miniatures ^_^ sorry for the blurry picture of the backside of the termie :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Excellent use of Dreadnaught shinpads! Great GS work too. I can see why he isn't wearing his helm. How was his chestplate constructed? Also, when you say 'pre-heresy Belial', do you actually mean 'pre-heresy Lion'el'? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1674023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialTemplari Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 good work Antman677, I'm not sure about the helmet though, in its current config it would not be possible to wear it. also I think you need to work on the lions nose. I like the armour a lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1674040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 looking good ;) I think the one 'chaos' leg bit stands out auite a bit though, but i really like the cape. Yes, please clarify why you have a pre-heresy Belial? as he wasn't around back then :P and neither were the Deathwing :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1674043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestin Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I assume he means Belial in pre-Heresy TDA, or how Belial might have looked had he been around and wearing TDA before the Heresy. Very nice model design! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1674080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman677 Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 I can see why he isn't wearing his helm. good work Antman677, I'm not sure about the helmet though, in its current config it would not be possible to wear it. also I think you need to work on the lions nose. I like the armour a lot. haha yea...i noticed that too when i first made it and was hoping others wouldnt notice <_< what i think i'll do is cut off the lower part of the wings so that the helmet will fit in the TDA head opening... How was his chestplate constructed? All pieces are from the ravenwing upgrade sprue. The wings are from the master of the ravenwing landspeeder icon. I cut off the sword and sanded the piece down where you could bend it to the form of the torso armor. for the opposite wing i just sanded the other side down. the centerpiece was also from the upgrade sprue i believe...(got it off an online bits store) Also, when you say 'pre-heresy Belial', do you actually mean 'pre-heresy Lion'el'? Yes, please clarify why you have a pre-heresy Belial? as he wasn't around back then :P and neither were the Deathwing :P I assume he means Belial in pre-Heresy TDA, or how Belial might have looked had he been around and wearing TDA before the Heresy. Very nice model design! sorry sorry...i meant a pre-heresy belial equivalent. for my successor chapter he was the champion of the 1st dark angel company. He would lead a small TDA speartip into battle...using DA rules. looking good ;) I think the one 'chaos' leg bit stands out auite a bit though Yeah I think I'll file it down and add some GS and put studs on it. any tips on making/where to find studs to use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1674711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiStudios Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I like the way the chest pieces have been constructed, its looking like a very promising fig :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1674796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilnar Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 you dont have to cut the wings off,,, clearly he's a convertable termi! ( the roof swings back):) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1674811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 dude it would be awesome to see a convertible termi :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1674819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarin Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Looks excellent. What did you use for the shoulder pads, they look great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1675084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman677 Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 Looks excellent. What did you use for the shoulder pads, they look great! thanks! the shoulder pads are dark angel dreadnought shin armor with the scroll/DA insignia filed down. I then cut some pieces of plasticard for the shoulder pad trimmings. also to come...modified helmet that fits (not sure i can engineer a convertible termie :mellow: lol), studs/rivets, fanged lion, and taking out the right chaos shin pad thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1675092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarin Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 thanks! the shoulder pads are dark angel dreadnought shin armor with the scroll/DA insignia filed down. I then cut some pieces of plasticard for the shoulder pad trimmings. I may have to steal that idea for my termies in the future... :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1675168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Oh that is a sweet, sweet model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1675247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
13skullz Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 very nice. looking forward to see this newer version of your model and i think that the lion trophy needs to be a CALIBANITE Lion! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1675272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman677 Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 very nice. looking forward to see this newer version of your model and i think that the lion trophy needs to be a CALIBANITE Lion! lol...and if by a calibanite lion you mean one with big fangs...here he is!! http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/ravoion_FangedLion_close.jpg and to all the people who still doubt that a winged helm can fit on mr. TDA Ravion... http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/thehelmetfits.jpg he fits! just barely...lol and here he is w/o the chaos shins...how do the studs look? http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/ravion_front_v20.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1675362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman677 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 So here is a sculpt of a helmet...im not so sure i like it... http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/helmetsculpt1.jpg should i stay with this, resculpt, or stick with the winged helm? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1679063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch«•»Angel Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 i agree. i dunt really like it either. imo, the winged helm has some sorta ompf to it that i like. it feels intimidating and a bit evil( a good evil) about rescultping or using any termi helm, i think u may have some trouble putting it into the actually head slot w/o having the neck guard getting in the way. if re sculpting is your option, i would sketch out a plan first nd post it here for other ppls opinion. but gotta love how he looks so far. he has this "RIP YO TO SHREADS!"ness to him. keep up the good work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1679129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Yes, definitely stick to the winged helm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1679252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraithwing Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 The wings aren't working I'm afraid, just not in TDA anyway. Best thing to do is try adding a plasticard 'grill' to a Termie helm. Theres multiple examples in the WIP section, if I can dig an example out, I'll link it. Other than that, its a lovely looking mini. Cheers, WW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1679281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother Hastatus Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 One question regarding the shoulder pads - if you took the shin armour from a dreadnought, what did you use for the dreadnought's shin armour instead? That's one thing thats stopped me using them on my termies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1679564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman677 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 The wings aren't working I'm afraid, just not in TDA anyway. Best thing to do is try adding a plasticard 'grill' to a Termie helm. Theres multiple examples in the WIP section, if I can dig an example out, I'll link it. Hmmm ill look around but im not exactly sure what you mean. seems the consensus is to use the winged helm...i agree he looks kinda funny wearing it, but when hes holding it...it looks pretty cool, just cant think too hard about how hes going to look wearing it lol... but if you can shoot a link my way, ill see what i can do... One question regarding the shoulder pads - if you took the shin armour from a dreadnought, what did you use for the dreadnought's shin armour instead? That's one thing thats stopped me using them on my termies. well some of the shin armor i got from the ravenwing upgrade sprues that come with a TON of dark angel upgrade sprues with dreadnought shin armor. but they werent nearly enough of 15 termies...so i went to on ebay and bought dark angel dread shin armor for $1.25 for 2...not the cheapest but its still the most economic way to make termie shoulder pads. i read on a post where a guy cut sections off of a plastic pen cap...and it looked pretty good too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1679663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman677 Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 finally started to work on mr. pre-heresy champion... I was trying for a white lion with a yellow hue...does it look like a yellow lion with some white paint slapped on? any ideas on how to make it more white-ish looking? http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii57/antman677/40k/painted_LionCape.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1700388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 How'd you make the helm? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1700429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman677 Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 How'd you make the helm? The winged helm? Its the WFB chaos warrior head with the helm wings from the dark angel upgrade sprue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1700437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 :) why havent i seen this thread before? this is awesome! i really love it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144426-shadow-keepers-army-blog-pre-heresy/#findComment-1700672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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