LBraden Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Me and a friend had a few ideas based off the work of "BulldogUK" when we saw it on Friday in the GW Wakefield Store, and we were thinking about this at the point of making kits that are purchasable to build titans out of good plastic, rather than the resin used by Forgeworld. We already know about the need of getting permission from GW before even making the moulds, but we are at the minute looking at several stuff before we go that far What different models are there for Imperial Titans What different weapon loadouts are needed how many people would buy a titan model exactly how much would it have to cost Now, my friend and I have got good minds when it comes to models, we also had the idea of making a Warhound (if that is the smallest) at least "walk" and someone in store suggested making a walking Dreadnought, but at the minute we are just thinking about it and want to see if it would be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 basically i think its illegal but im not too sure what you are saying models for imperial titans? gw and fw only? other wise there are loads of fluffy or non fluffy titans people make FW wise: warhound, reaver weapon load outs you'd need to look in seige of vraks part 2 for the reaver and one of the apocalypse books for the warhound loads of people would buy them, well depending on price but im pretty sure that iw ould be illegal cost would be up to you and depends who youre market is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBraden Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 We are looking into the PLAUSIBILITY of it, as that what happens if we do it all and then get the permission from GW just to sell one or two Warhounds and a Reaver that does not even cover the basic costs, and have to pay about 30% to GW for it so we loose even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion in the Stars Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Assuming that you mean styrene kits like a Land Raider, the initial investment is huge. tens of thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands, just for the tool (technical term for the mold). Then there's the injection-molding machine (which may-or-may-not be rentable). For something the size of a Titan, you're looking at probably $350 per kit to break even (based on similar-size kits from commercial manufacturers). Example: A 1/32 scale A-10 warthog kit set me back $110, it's the size of a THawk. The 1/16 scale tanks are similar price, they're the size of a Baneblade. Since a Titan is 2x or 3x the size of either one, I'd expect 3x price, (bigger model needs LOTS more plastic). Eventually, you're going to run into trouble with strength. If GW isn't even looking at doing plastic Titans (yet), when they own the IP and a large number of injection-molding machines, it's NOT cost-effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBraden Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 we are in the UK so a slight change there, however, as for the other bits and pieces ya we do know its going to cost a lot, but we are looking into the ideas, and my friend runs a model making company anyway, so the moulds are not too much trouble, weight loadout is defiantly something we are looking at. However, we have asked a lawyer to help us see the legal side of it with GW, as that if you look on my Space Marine Vehicle Maker topic that I posted, there is a vehicle called the Mule, that is a version I have been thinking of making a kit for that, but then again, nothing will be made until after the legalise is sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Your serious? Man you are my kind of person. You have all the assets you need, if you can get permision then you are clear for making these things for sure. By all means don't give up. I always wanted someone to make plastic specialty 40k models. Ask to start a funding campain once you get permision maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBraden Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 we are looking into it, my friend is working on the stuff and that, but of course, the lawyers take time, always do, if we can get it right, it will be fun, but the larger ones will require a hell of a lot of work, we estimate that the Reaver Titan would be about the same weight as a baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion in the Stars Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 10 pounds of plastic? Woof! I'd suggest starting with plastic aircraft first, as GW has been thinking about those, but hasn't made a decision yet. (if you can make a THawk for roughly $150, count me in!) So, had any luck fighting the debbil (er, lawyers) yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBraden Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 New set of lawyers, FW are being slow in signing, and the person who we bought the store off did a fiddle, and we are currently trying to find him and get our money back, as it was not his store to sell us, so we are delayed for about 3-4 weeks minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion in the Stars Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Holy Emperor! GW/FW didn't say "no"? I think my wallet just bit me... Sorry to hear about your troubles. Good luck tracking down the scammer, and I'm looking forward to hearing back on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 cool keep us posted! what sort of size are you thinking of doing? and what sort of price are you currently thinking? thanks for all your hard work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulldogUK Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Of course chaps if this ever gets off the ground and your wanting someone local to do a half decent paint job and build review you know who to prod of course, goods in kind :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBraden Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 ya, due to things beyond our control, lets resurrect this in, oh a couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 why has GW stopped you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBraden Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 no the <Censored> idiot that we got the store off, with attached storage, fiddled us, so now we are back to a small 4x2.4m room as a design studio. and without storage for the built models, its been put on hiatus till we get stuff sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 this is gonna be awesome, I will def get the titan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 no the <Censored> idiot that we got the store off, with attached storage, fiddled us, so now we are back to a small 4x2.4m room as a design studio.and without storage for the built models, its been put on hiatus till we get stuff sorted ok well atleast you haven't been closed down good luck and i demand at least monthly updates :huh: :wub: im serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bleak Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I'm sorry to hear you've been scammed. I don't understand why people think it is acceptable to do that sort of thing :( Anyway, your idea is wonderful. If I were you, I would go through with it. The pride and the cash at the end of the long painul road will be worth it (for you an us ^_^ ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBraden Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 to awake everyone who wants We should be opening soon and I will get a price list and a few pictures from our pre-production model also soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreachon Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Sounds good, I'll be looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recnic Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 to awake everyone who wants We should be opening soon and I will get a price list and a few pictures from our pre-production model also soon Wow, so if you are making pre-production models, you got permission from GW? Congratulations, I'm in awe, great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'm awaiting this with baited breath! Congrats on getting permission! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulldogUK Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Looking forward to it, although not sure if I can justify the time (and expense) of building another smaller beast now Odin is done and dusted it would be practical to have a little minimi sat along side. should certainly be more portable and Odin could be upgraded to Warmonger class! hmmmm, toying with the idea of building a 12 action figure size Dreadnought next, I reckon if this Kit Titan is any good some of the components can probably be used to help things along :jaw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateRogue Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 So did you all get permission from GW? It would be awesome to be able to use them in a Apoc tournoument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBraden Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 At the minute, hang on, our mould supplier has backed out after realising it would be too much hassle to cover the orders, we are working on another supplier who is able to handle larger orders To put it in laymans terms, we are trying to get a garage moulder to do what ya need a small factory for plus we have problems with the business rates, so if Bulldog knows a cheapish shop near him, hopefully one that will not cost an arm and a leg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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