Ein Windir Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Well, I ran into a little problem. As you can see in the pictures I made a skeleton on a cross, but i'm not sure if I should srcap the idea or not. What do you guys/girls think? http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/Ein_Windir/Taleof4009.jpg http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/Ein_Windir/Taleof4010.jpg http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/Ein_Windir/Taleof4011.jpg C&C always welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0NEW0LF Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 i like it but maybe remove the top spar of the cross + replace it with some spikes or a trophy rack or something to break up the crucifix shape it would get away from the christian connotations and still retain the idea. just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3ATHRAV3N Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I like it, it symbolises the suffering of the legion of the damned. Its just a symbol to me, cant see people getting too offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flow Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 i like it but maybe remove the top spar of the cross + replace it with some spikes or a trophy rack or something to break up the crucifix shape it would get away from the christian connotations and still retain the idea. just a thought... Jesus wasn't the only one to ever be crucified, crucifixion was an extreme form of torture used by the Romans (as well as other countries) to crush the hopes of rebellion or dissension. So it is appropriate for the LotD to either symbolize their pain or to shatter their enemies moral. I love the baneblade and I think the crucifix is a nice touch. can't wait to see it finished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
det Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 the only real background probelm is the baneblade itself... i'd keep the cross but i'd do as lonewolf suggested. maybe get another khemri banner and put it on top of the cross... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 crucifixion was by an X shaped not the cross we know today. It was physcially impossible to crucify on the traditional cross. but i would suggest doing what lonewololf says, cut the top off and put a trophy rack or banner. Plus, that would just look a heck of alot darker and morbid B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgeman Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 It was physcially impossible to crucify on the traditional cross. That my good sir, is baloney. The crucifix as we know it is so designed because it causes blood to drain into the legs and causes a heart attack. Because your arms are splayed you cannot breath properly without a great, great effort and due to the feet being pointed towards the ground this causes the blood to drain into the legs and puts a massive strain on the heart. Thus you can only live for two or three minutes on the cross before you die; which is why Christ is said to have survived three days on the cross. The tank looks amazing, athough I don't believe that Legion of the Damned would possess one, they aren't that well equiped. Personally I like the crucified skeleton, it looks really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalfedan Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I think you should keep the crucifix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0NEW0LF Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Jesus wasn't the only one to ever be crucified, crucifixion was an extreme form of torture used by the Romans (as well as other countries) to crush the hopes of rebellion or dissension. So it is appropriate for the LotD to either symbolize their pain or to shatter their enemies moral. i wasnt saying he was :P, my point is the traditional crucifix is instantly recognisable and automatically associated (for good or bad) with the Christian Religion. i just think it would work better by adding (as suggested) a trophy rack/tomb king bits/banner/skulls/spikes/general nastyness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAR Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I dunno, I think an 'X" instead of the more traditionally view cross would be better. If you wanted my opinion, I skeleton standing in a "pit of flames" would be "DA Bomb". Maybe a brazier or big pot/pan with some GS flames and him dancing/standing/hanging in the flames would be awesome. my $.02 :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Windir Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 I think you should keep the crucifix, of you could even tweak it a little to be like this: http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc71/jq...el02/apathy.jpg That is an awesome poster! The reason I'm giving them a baneblade is for fear factor. So the cross is staying and tonite it will be put on the baneblade. I'm going to make a little base for the cross and I was also thinking of getting some model chains the wrap the feet and arms for a finish touch. Thank you for all the support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Sorry, but just a historical comment. ""crucifixion was by an X shaped not the cross we know today. It was physcially impossible to crucify on the traditional cross"" Actually no, it was more likely a simple stake, the arms above the head, the legs below, the nailing is debateable as well, it is more likely they were tied, and nailed on afterwards as they became too weak. As for the design, I like it, but (and I am not religious) if you 'think' something may offend someone, it probably will, even if they don't voice it. To avoid hurting people to whom this matters, and add the trophies/remove the top peg I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Its a nice idea, but you are leaving yourself open to massive ribbing and pointless debate. I personally have found it prudent to avoid all well known religious icons, and if you can help it ALL religious icons and symbols. If you was to take the top part of the cross off leaving a T shape then this would leave your lovely addon without the religious connotations. That aside, its looking pretty good so far, now get some more paint on that bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBlessed Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Whats wrong with the crucifix? I like it. Though what poor human have they crucified. give it a mutated skull to show it was a heretic who deserved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorinoFan Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 there is a piece of art in the 3rd edition rule book that has a crucifixion in it, it is in front of a fortress if that gives anymore help as to what piece of art i am reffering to, I unfortunately need to search round for that rule book at some stage so I can't give you a page reference. anyway it has no top bit but it did have supporting brackets for each arm of the crucifix. that couldd work in that it is playing off of pre-existing 40k art and you can argue that point if someone gets upset over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solamus Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 There's nothing working with the cross (if you try to please everyone, you only end up pleasing no one, including yourself). But personally I'm not sure about the positioning, I'd have maybe tended to have placed it more horizontally across the front of the tank (al la Mad Max 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contaminus Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm a Christian and I've got no problem with the cross. It gives the tank a whole apocalyptic book of revelations sort of look that I think works well with the LotD. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 A christian here to and i dont mind it either. A really cool idea and very nice work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miniman Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 People, aren't we forgetting the most important aspect of this thread? It's not about finding out "which crucifixion method is better/worse", it's about his LotD Baneblade, so forget Jebus, and move on. NOW, the tank looks good imo, a few more pics of it, and maybe a few additions like more skulls and bones adorning the armor and gs flames coming out of a few cracks? That'd be freaking sweet! The focal pont would most likely be the cross up top, so maybe lowering the Tombkings banners by about half? either way, i want to see this thing done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTDemon Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 if you totally go off of the cross idea .. could have him crucified on an aquila... , could look quite visually interesting , would have the same kind of effect but also have this kind of 'angel of death' element going on , and the whole, god Emperor with his pretty two headed birdies thing seems to be the established religious iconography standard in the 41st millenium :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Just cut the top of the cross off if it's a problem and add something like an aquila. Great concept for a model though and excellent conversion, if that thing materialised out of thin air I'd hope it was on my side. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmackey Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 just put some chains on his wrist's and tie em to the poles either side of him easy fix love the model i would not change a thing to be honest if some one dose get offended its not like u got a neon light saying this is jeebus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishSpit Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I love the cross, but maybe make it removable in case anyone got offended by it (can't see why, freakin sweet piece you got there) But... It was physcially impossible to crucify on the traditional cross. That my good sir, is baloney. The crucifix as we know it is so designed because it causes blood to drain into the legs and causes a heart attack. Because your arms are splayed you cannot breath properly without a great, great effort and due to the feet being pointed towards the ground this causes the blood to drain into the legs and puts a massive strain on the heart. Thus you can only live for two or three minutes on the cross before you die; which is why Christ is said to have survived three days on the cross. The tank looks amazing, athough I don't believe that Legion of the Damned would possess one, they aren't that well equiped. Personally I like the crucified skeleton, it looks really good. Really? two or three minutes? Am i missing somehting or would by that logic, standing for two/three minutes with your arms out would kill you? But i'll shut up, miniman said it best People, aren't we forgetting the most important aspect of this thread? It's not about finding out "which crucifixion method is better/worse", it's about his LotD Baneblade, so forget Jebus, and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warforger Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Meh I'm not really sure the LoTD would have baneblades, I mean it would be "THE TELEPORTING GHOST BANEBLADE OF DOOM!!!!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schreibs Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 It looks really cool! Considering that Christianity doesn't exist in the 40k universe I think it's totally fine. Not to mention the Romans crucified thousands of people and in some parts of the world people are still crucified to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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