Cpt Ultio Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I've got this idea, but I tried putting it past my friend and he just screamed at me that it wouldn't be legal full stop... But this is the idea... Am I allowed to attach storm bolters to lightning claws for a character I am designing for my dark angels army. I mean what does Abaddon have? A Lightning Claw with a combi-bolter, obviously I wouldn't make it AS powerful as Abaddon's Would this be cool with you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Hmmm, it would be very interesting.... Perhaps count it as a storm-bolter and chain fist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barret Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Is a Dark Angels character allowed to take a Storm Bolter and a pair of LCs? If so, then yeah, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Ultio Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 the SB's would be built in to the LC's, I'd be using Abaddon's as a base to work on the rules, but make it not so powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barret Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Well, if you're making a custom character with custom rules then what's "legal" or allowed isn't really a question then, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Ultio Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 This is what I was trying to put across to my friend, but he's a 'strict' codex player, i've got this mental image in my head of how he will look, and it's hopefully going to look awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahdprophet Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 It sounds pretty awesome. I would say that you should have a backup profile and point cost for the guy for when you play against sticklers. "That bolter is only decorative..." sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docbp87 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 While this has the potential to look absolutely awesome, the fluff behind Abbadon's LC/SB is what keeps it decent, in gameplay terms IMO. Why not count it as a SB/CF or something? Or a SB/PF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Ultio Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 Because I want lightning claws and storm bolters, I've already picked out the bits I want/need, just need to get them and start working on my true scale character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Dwr Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 check codex DA, you can indeed take lightning claws and a storm bolter on a company master, on top of his base bolt pistol which can be upgraded to a plasma pistol if desired. It's a conversion i've been threatening since the codex came out, oh and with a jump pack to boot! Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Largely it depends on the army base you are using, some companies have tighter restrictions on what they are allowed to take. But if all else fails, you ARE allowed to use calgars/abbadons rules for a different character PROVIDING its a successor chapter using that chapters base rules. Unfortunately you cannot make up characters out of pure cloth anymore, there has to be a basis in rules to make them legal. The dark angels chapter master is allowed to replace his chainsword with a pair of lightning claws and take an additional stormbolter... (Just be sure you dont attach a stormbolter to BOTH lightning claws, that would be illegal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Ultio Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 Well, my idea is based on the fall of Caliban, when the world was ripped apart and a large number of the Fallen Dark Angels was sucked into the warp and displaced across the years and galaxys, how many True to the Lion Dark Angels was sucked into the warp as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leethal Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Zero. All who are there are deemed to unclean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Ultio Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 Hmm, scratch that idea then, I'll just do a successor chapter then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Padawan Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Cpt Ultio: dude it sounds like an awesome idea and should imagine it would look great legal or not. Less talk and more conversion! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Ultio Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 So far, my idea is using the heavy bolter backpack, dreadnought storm bolter attached to said back pack, which is inturn attached to the lightning claw (I want both of them sadly), he's going to be true scale, but I'm going to see if I can straighten the legs so he's towering over the other marines. I would want a Crusader helmet (what mk are those ones?) check codex DA, you can indeed take lightning claws and a storm bolter on a company master, on top of his base bolt pistol which can be upgraded to a plasma pistol if desired. It's a conversion i've been threatening since the codex came out, oh and with a jump pack to boot! Al Now, that is an idea... jump pack, and plasma pistol... *Thinks evilly* Mind if I possibly steal that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 well, it can be modelled with two SBs in my opinion, just as long as your rules CLEARLY state it counts as 1 SB, and its not twinlinked. if you feel creative and want to convert something like that, i say go right ahead, its a hobby afterall, its not like youre breaking the law. just make sure if it does go on the tabletop, you have CLEAR and PRECISE rules on what your model counts as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother SRM Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I've done it before, and it can look really good if you do it right! Mind you, this is an older paintjob of mine, so it's not the best, but I'm using it as an example of your idea, a great one that I had too! http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7636/validus1yc1.jpg I took the Termie Lightning Claws, cut them off at the elbows, and stuck them on PA arms. Dreadnought stormbolter for the mounted stormbolter, and a bolt pistol clip sticking out the side there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0NEW0LF Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Now, that is an idea... jump pack, and plasma pistol... *Thinks evilly* Mind if I possibly steal that idea? well there's nothing stopping you having one claw with a storm bolter fitted and one with plasma pistol fitted. at the end of the day he'll be carrying his legal weapon loadout ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lucas Raziel Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 i love the idea, but it kinda reminds me of Marneus Calgar's Gaunlets of Ultramar... but then again, he is a space smurf so it would be a great idea, looking foward to seeing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Dwr Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Go for it, it's not 'my idea' to be stolen, it's in the codex as the most expensive company master load out. The only thing that has stopped me is how bulky storm bolters are. Just gluing one to the side of the lightning claw makes it look unwieldy; bad when you consider how 'delicate' and 'graceful' the claws should be. I've toyed with making smaller storm bolters out of bolt pistols etc but not yet accieved the desired effect. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Ultio Posted September 27, 2008 Author Share Posted September 27, 2008 i'm going to be taking my time on the model working on one bit at a time, removing mold lines, drilling out gun barrels, green stuffing, maybe adding some small chains to give him a more beefed up look since his pack is going to be heavy, I might do the twin bolt pistol thing since I have a ton laying around. Edit, So I have these options, either make my own character, with fluff, or do a standard company master and do the whole what you see is what you get. What would be best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornling 3.1415 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 nice idea, I'm working on remaking my command squad with empire knights bits to make a team of "Jaguar Knights" Emperor I am such a masochist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essayons Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 But if all else fails, you ARE allowed to use calgars/abbadons rules for a different character PROVIDING its a successor chapter using that chapters base rules. This is not accurate. At least as far as the new SM Codex is concerned, you can use ANY special character in whatever army you choose. You change the name and viola! This is explicitly explained in the new codex. You can use Calgar in whatever SM army you like. It DOES NOT have to be an Ultramarines successor. All you have to do is make sure your opponent knows what set of rules you are using and have an appropriately equipped model. Essayons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Ultio Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 That's good to know, but looks like I might have to make a successor chapter if I want to have an honor guard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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