Menathorn Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Greetings Brothers, I have for some time been thinking of teaming up my SW force with an Ordo Malleus Inqusitor. I found on really cool mini from FW ( http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/hrex314.htm ) which I thought of painting up and use as is in my army. Thing is, does it work with the fluff? Would the Space Wolfs be okey with a Ordo Malleus Inqusitor? And if so, how would you kit him to go with the army? Something I should be thinking of? All hail Russ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I see no reason why not. We don´t like the Inquisition in general, but like you can read in the second SW novel we are still on good term with individual Inquisitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Well an Ordo Malleus =][= is more concerned about deamons than if the puppies are cleaning their litter boxes properly... I don;t see them having a problem... although they will likely view the =][= as a necessary evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Well an Ordo Malleus =][= is more concerned about deamons than if the puppies are cleaning their litter boxes properly... I don;t see them having a problem... although they will likely view the =][= as a necessary evil. I thought the litter boxes were a secret!!!! :o Who told you about them?! :) Really, it depends on how =][= the Inquisitor tries to be. If he thinks he can order us around, he gets to meet Decoy and his Wulfen. Otherwise, we'll tolerate them if we feel like it. By the way, that is an awesome mini, even from FW. :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 No reason why not. The Hereticus might be a little more dangerous, but we held back Angron at Armegeddon and backed up 100 GKT, so we get on well with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menathorn Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 How do you suggest that I kit him then? I have been thinking of a Puritan from the System where my Chapter have it's base. Which would make it easier for the Inq to be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I think our rules prohibit it. We can not take allies. Years ago I wanted to bring an assassin with my SW army and was unable to. They said the Inquisitor counted as your 'optional HQ' and we dont have any to use. All of our HQs are manditory, and (I think) all must be Space Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 you don't have to use the HQ inquisitor, there is an elite inquisitor too, just means you cant take assassains because hes not an inquisitor lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Yeah, we cant take assassins because you need an inquisitor first.... no one else can even take one without taking an inquisitor Lord.... we can only take normal style inquisitors..... but we can take them. I dont see a reason why not, though Im not sure I would. Not IMHO worth the points for another IC. If I have the place for such a creature Ill probly take a wulfen from a game/fun point of veiw. That being said Space Wolves get along fine with the Ordo Malleus in all the fluff Ive seen. Theres the aforementioned fight with angron, not to mention were one of the Bulwark Chapters.... holding back the eye of terror et all helps you earn brownie points with the kill all demons faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Uh... since when are we allowed to take allies? I am pretty sure thats in the codex, but dont have it in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Its in their codex.... Witchhunters and Daemon Hunters. Its nothing to do with our codex, as the allies system hadnt been thought of. The only problem we have with taking allies is that we cant take any non compulsory HQ choices, wich limits our slots to 1 elite, 2 troops, and 1 FA that could be taken if we so chose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Ugh.. I need to get my codex. I could swear its in there. Just a few hours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantyr Greymantle Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Agreed - it's in the Daemonhunters codex and we can take the options Grey Mage mentioned. And as to working with OM, if we really didn't get along we probably also wouldn't send wolves to join the Deathwatch, but we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menathorn Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 Should I take a unit of GK Terminators instead? Cost more but are a hell lot of more effective. In the DH codex it states that all loyal Astartes can take members of Ordo Malleus. So, I think I could take an Inqusitor. Thing is that I wanted an Inqusitor Lord, I can use the Elite slots for a lot of fun. Is an Inqusitor worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Im not sure. Personally Id say if your taking an inquisitor it should be a psycker to make up for our rune priest. Thats the only reason Id take him.... throw him in artificer armor and open his mind to the emperors holy powers of wup=ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thylacine Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Menathorn. If you take the Inquisitor and Retinue or Grey Knights you have to use them as an Elites, choice. Only SW HQ's can be used as HQ's in a SW list. If you intend taking this combination to a tournament you may want to contact the TO first and you shold take the time to write a storyline first, it helps with the comp scores. I purchased some Assassins to use in my list at the end of 3rd ed but found that I could not use them in 4th ed, unless I took a full on allied list but the points make it just too expensive to do that. Guys I know that did take Assassins in 3rd ed say that they complimented the list and devastated opposition HQ's. Fluff wise there is not love lost between the Inquisition and the SW's. but it is not like your using a Relictors list, then you would have problems. Should I take a unit of GK Terminators instead? Cost more but are a hell lot of more effective. In the DH codex it states that all loyal Astartes can take members of Ordo Malleus. So, I think I could take an Inqusitor. Thing is that I wanted an Inqusitor Lord, I can use the Elite slots for a lot of fun. Is an Inqusitor worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I don't remember seeing anything that says a SW HQ is the only thing that can be used in a SW army. I see where it says how many HQs we need for certain point levels but I didn't see that they must be SW HQ choices. As long as a SW army has the required amount of HQs for the point level, why can't the HQ be from an allied army? (i.e. Inquistion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet_magnet Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Look at the paragraph about rerinues and you'll see it I did the same thing about a year ago I wann Ted to run a grand master though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Yeah I just looked at the whole part about Retinues at the top of pg 5 and nowhere does it say specifically that the HQs must be SWs. Specifically it always states "HQ unit" or the like....not "Space Wolf HQ unit" which I take to mean that as long as the model is an HQ choice (wether Space Wolf or an Allied force) it is a viable unit to take as the required HQ choice(s) for that specific amount of points. For example, as long as there are 2 HQ units in a 1000pt game it doesn't matter wether those are a Wolf Lord and Rune Priest/Wolf Guard Battle Leader and Wolf Priest....or an Allied HQ choice and a Rune Priest....whatever floats your boat, it is viable. Please correct me if I'm wrong though, I want to make sure I am following the rules here but as far as I'm reading it it just says HQ unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menathorn Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Well, What should I do then? Is it worth it? Or should I put the points on something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Personally I'd say it's not worth it. Our Elites spots are hotly contested anyway, what with Dreads, Wolf Guard and Scouts and we don't really have the points available for what is to be honest a sub par IC, especially as we have plenty of extremely good ones. Unless you know your facing psykers or DS units, leave him at home. On the other hand, the models are full of character and painting one is a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Amen Vass....well put =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Muzzy, the Allies rule states you cannot take compulsory choices from your allied forces so you see you cant take an allied HQ because EVERY HQ in SW force is a compulsory choice. Otherwise if we just had access to more HQ's sure, we could take inquisitor lords all day long after the first... but the rule states "no more and no less" wich certainly makes it sound required to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I think I get what you are saying....and I agree (although I wish I had the thing that talks about how Allies work and the rules that apply, cause I don't have it I think). It's like (and this is JUST an example) with Codex Space Marines....the first HQ would have to come from the Space Marine Codex (or rather at least one HQ would) but any other HQs a player decide to take can be taken from an Ally. Space Wolves are required to take so many per the amount of points, so therefore they are complusory, which precludes taking an Allied HQ unit. Am I understanding that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Aye, this is indeed the case. As a result of this, one of the primary reasons for taking an =][= (A Lord, with a cheap Ld 10 Hood and Assassins) are rendered impossible and so it is a much less advantagous option for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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