[Daemon review] HQ.

[Captain Malachi]

Yeah, just the tallyman left, then we're on to elites. I'll give you guys a few hours to say what you want, then I'll write something up.

[Vassakov]

Tallyman: Mono Nurgle only. Plaugebearers as Troops, and take loads of them. 3x Princes, Hide, Wings, Noxious Touch, MoN. Maybe a Great Unclean one if you like. Avoid combat with the Tallyman, wait for the enemy to lose some men to the Princes then watch as their army wilts under 2+ Power Weapon Attacks.

[Raptor1313]

Tallyman only in nurge-heavy builds.

 

All the Tallyman gives you is the Tally. He is worthless in close combat, pure and simple. He sits in the back with a lot of Plaguebeaers, hides, and when that unit gets shot up, he joins a different unit.

 

I've seen a few mono-nurgle builds that use him. One nasty one featured about 60 plaguebearers; it took up space VERY well. Others use Nurglings and/or Beasts of Nurgle to work with the Tally, once the Tally is up thanks to Daemon Princes and the like.

 

Note, though, that the Tally is not always that useful. Against hordes, you'll get it up faster, but they don't have armor saves as much, so it's not that big a deal. Vs. smaller, more elite armies, you might never get the tally all the way up. And, the Tally does NOTHING for killing armor, and the bulk of Nurgle troops can't scratch more than AV10.

[Captain Malachi]

I find it worth adding screamers in to tallyman builds for exactly that reason, though this is to do with the army as a whole and not Epi.

[Captain Malachi]

Epidemius:

A Nurgle herald on a palanquin with a nifty trick. His tally is the only reason to take him, we’ll go in to more detail later in the review, in the sample lists section, but for now let’s just say he does well in mono/near mono-Nurgle lists.

 

I couldn't think what else to say :rolleyes:

[Raptor1313]

I think that the Tallyman does need his own section in sample armies.

[minigun762]

I think that the Tallyman does need his own section in sample armies.

 

Something should be said about him in the actual HQ section, but like I mentioned before the meat and potatos of how to use him will actually be a list building excercise.

[Raptor1313]

I think all there really is to say about Epedemius is that he ONLY gives you the tally, and you best hide him in a thick unit of Plaguebearers. He dies, and you lose the Tally, and then your army loses some lethality.

[==Me==]

Epi is all about the Tally. He's only useful in a mono-Nurgle list and he must stay alive for the Tally to keep going.

[Captain Malachi]

Epidemius:

A Nurgle herald on a palanquin with a nifty trick. His tally is the only reason to take him, we’ll go in to more detail later in the review, in the sample lists section, but for now let’s just say he does well in mono/near mono-Nurgle lists. The most important thing to remember with Epidemius is not to let him get killed! You need to keep as far away from the action as possible, preferably stuck in a big unit of plaguebearers, so that he can keep the tally going. If the tally goes down, you lose a good deal of your power.

[minigun762]

Yep, thats about all there is to be said. Odd question but what about putting him in a unit of Nurglings as bodyguards? Any idea if that would be helpful?

[Captain Malachi]

I suggested plaguebearers 'cos they'd be used to camp the objective there anyway in those missions, and nurglings are used to kill the other guy later in the game so you'd be leaving him without a bodyguard.

[Raptor1313]

I'd stick to Plaguebearers for their durability (4+ cover save, T5, feel no pain? Better than T3 and a 3+ cover save, I think. Plus, Flamers. All I got to say to that.). Plaguebearers can also claim objectives, and nurglings cannot.

[minigun762]

Good points, just brainstorming.

[Captain Malachi]

Well if we're finally done with the HQ section we can move on to elites. Just give me a day to have a break and I'll start the thread on them tomorrow :confused:

[Raptor1313]

I think we're finally done with the HQs. PM the compilation to me, and I'll (eventually) comb it out and all that jazz, Mal.

 

Hey, that's the biggest section down, already....

[Vassakov]

11 pages and over 1 month... not bad guys, not bad at all.

 

Elites, Troops and Fast Attack should go fairly quickly, as theres less options. Heavies is going to be... interesting.

[minigun762]

Heavies is going to be... interesting.

Heavies should almost be dealt with by asking "Daemon Prince or Soulgrinder" and doing a Pro/Con thing from there, since thats really what people want to know.

[Raptor1313]

HQ section is edited now.

 

Same goes for the armory.

 

I think I second the motion of Soul Grinder vs. Daemon Prince for heavy support.