Utsujin Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I saw the artwork and when I saw a grey knight with a jump pack my jaw dropped. At first I thought it was a sign of a new codex for us.. but we'll see. A grey knight with jump pack, what like, 55/model? It would make them a devastating assault unit though. Heh, we can be hopeful, I'm also thinking first quarter of 2010. HOpefully it'll come before 2012... ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1921263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter52 Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 I saw the artwork and when I saw a grey knight with a jump pack my jaw dropped. At first I thought it was a sign of a new codex for us.. but we'll see. A grey knight with jump pack, what like, 55/model? It would make them a devastating assault unit though. I dunno. That would be a bit impractical, even for GW. Sacrifice some of the benefits of regular GKs: Stormbolter and True Grit. That is the hallmark of Assault squads, CCW and Bolt Pistol, dedicated assualt. GKs with jump packs should be no different. So, drop those two abilities, price drops considerably, give him NFW that is crafted as two CCW and you would be looking at more like 30pts which is pretty good considering that an assault marine is a 6pt increase but these guys are would to tear up CC. All hypothetical though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1921336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auedawen Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 ...I'm confused why so many people are excited for Assault Knights? Honestly, I like Daemonhunters because they are Marines in appearance only, everything else plays completely different. And I wouldn't have it any other way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1922267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Exactly. If anything, I'd like to see Grey Knights become more different than Space Marines. Grey Space Marines should use the SM codex. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1922316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKTELIAS Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Can soneone show the picture because I can't access it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1922414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Marid Posted Today, 09:09 PM Exactly. If anything, I'd like to see Grey Knights become more different than Space Marines. Grey Space Marines should use the SM codex. :) Seconded. Let's face it , in terms of codex-divergence we're up there with the Space Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1922421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Now to hope for similar news for the Sisters of Battle. I really want a reason to get back into 40K... especially new models, plastic ones that are easier to paint... Although if they release high quality plastic GK models with this codex update, I might actually be convinced to buy some of them and start a small GK force, too... I'm just tired of painting metal models, it's not for me. I don't have much time left to begin with right now... and I'm not exactly a skilled painter to begin with either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Well the good thing is that the WH should be the next in line. The bad thing is that put us in a 2011+ release <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredWing Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I'd have to say not to hold your breath on an SoB codex just yet. I got wind of GK minis being in development a good couple of years ago but there's not been a sniff of anything relating to SoB's. As it is GK's are considerably more broken than a lot of other potential codecies. You've only got to look at stuff like the assault cannon rules, the GK land raiders, the lack of rules to deal with current C:CD, general points costs etc. The other thing to consider is the release schedule. Number 6 is right when he says that there's a danger of losing the xenos/traitor players out there because of the lack of new anti-imperial codecies being released. If we consider recent/forthcoming releases we're now looking at 2 imperial codex releases in a row. The last quarter we know GW have got a 'mystery' release, maybe space hulk, maybe GK's, maybe even SW's, but we can be fairly sure that it's not going to be DE or necrons. With that being the case are we going to see a 3rd imperial codex released in a row? Speculation for sure but with the release of what appears to be cover artwork for the gamesday 2009 I'd have to say I'd be surprised if GK's weren't released this year, especially when we know the minis have been in development for a couple of years and we also have it rumoured that Phil kelly is working on the codex (during the 5th ed release seminar in GW HQ Phil himself said that a codex takes about 3 months to put together). I'd have to say that the GK players out there by far deserve some new stuff when you take into account the loyaty they've displayed to a force that is significantly weaker than it should have ever allowed to become. That's my take on it anyway, there's really not an aweful lot wrong with sisters as they currently are and since 5th ed I've never had so much fun & success fielding them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I suspect Codex: Grey Knights has moved up the food chain due to the likelihood of Forgeworld's Imperial Armour Volume Seven: The Siege of Vraks Part Three containing Grey Knights, hence the nice new GKLR Redeemer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripath Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 <_< I think I heard someone say codex? Number six I do think that you should give your opponents a little more credit. If you can almost win a tournament with GK I think that your already a big fish in a little pond. Giving more toys to xenos won't help them grow much more. Teach someone how to play better and you will get a player that can satisfy your strategic needs. Thats why I never mind helping out the new people ;) They tend to make the best opponents when they have the best to learn from. If you help out, your crappy locale gamestore can become a good local gamstore. I do find it funny watching all of the Grey Knight stage fright though. With everyone panicing about will this be in there(jump packs *croses fingers*) and what will be taken out or limited(Detectives *crosses fingers*) But no one should complain about getting a new codex until we see more information. Constructive criticism maybe but its still to far out to know anything to criticise yet, except the idea of a new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Number six I do think that you should give your opponents a little more credit. If you can almost win a tournament with GK I think that your already a big fish in a little pond. Ha! <_< If you only knew how wrong that was! ;) Giving more toys to xenos won't help them grow much more. Teach someone how to play better and you will get a player that can satisfy your strategic needs. Con of the North was a state away, and other than the friend from Chicago I travelled with, I didn't know anybody else there. Locally, about 2/3 of my games are against Chaos Marines (they are absurdly popular for some reason), about 20% of my games are against Loyalist marines of one stripe or another, and the remainder is taken up by the other armies, though not a single other active Inquisition player beyond myself. (This is in a pool of about 40+ regular gamers in my community, not counting about a 1/2 dozen beer-n-pretzel gamers where 40K is only one small part of what we do together.) So where I was coming from had far less to do with playing "easy" opponents -- FAR from it (if anything, it is they who have educated me over the years). Rather, I just want to play against non-power-armoured foes much more regularly. Only about 10% - 15% of my games are against non power-armour. It gets old after a while. :( IMHO, GW needs to make the very solid and strong case that non-Imperial armies are worth playing. I myself have branched out to Tau (now have a bit over 2200 pts, 1500 of it painted) and am in the process of collecting Tyranids with the aim of fielding them in about 12-18 months. I practically feel it is my duty in this locale to provide some gaming variety. (Helps that I have an inherent interest in all these armies, but I have always been the type of person who looks to do something different from the crowd.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripath Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 nly about 10% - 15% of my games are against non power-armour. It gets old after a while. sad.gif Well you could come to the local game store here... We have yet to have a space marine player. There are two sister players though. other then that there is two nids, one ork, one tau, three eldar players, and two IG. Oops almost forgot to put myself in there. So not everyone is in the same boat as you :lol: Also until you see what each army can do most people don't even think about playing them. PS Eldrad is a dick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prathios Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 IMHO, GW needs to make the very solid and strong case that non-Imperial armies are worth playing. I myself have branched out to Tau (now have a bit over 2200 pts, 1500 of it painted) and am in the process of collecting Tyranids with the aim of fielding them in about 12-18 months. I practically feel it is my duty in this locale to provide some gaming variety. (Helps that I have an inherent interest in all these armies, but I have always been the type of person who looks to do something different from the crowd.) Tau??? Of all the things you could have picked... So you were tired of power armor so you decided to get... power armor that changes into a jet plane when you fold it a certain way. (stupid crisis suits :lol:) When they release a multi part kit that has seven dinosaurs in power armor that combine into a titan I'm quitting warhammer. That or when they put a Tau commando thats a schoolgirl in a skirted uniform with enormous boobs. Oh well no CC for you anymore eh? ;) And might I ask how have you been doing so far with that army? @ripath hes a dead dick ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I suspect Codex: Grey Knights has moved up the food chain due to the likelihood of Forgeworld's Imperial Armour Volume Seven: The Siege of Vraks Part Three containing Grey Knights, hence the nice new GKLR Redeemer. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...=160047&hl= Looks like I hit the target at least one time in my life :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Tau??? Of all the things you could have picked... So you were tired of power armor so you decided to get... power armor that changes into a jet plane when you fold it a certain way. (stupid crisis suits :angry:) When they release a multi part kit that has seven dinosaurs in power armor that combine into a titan I'm quitting warhammer. That or when they put a Tau commando thats a schoolgirl in a skirted uniform with enormous boobs. Oh well no CC for you anymore eh? ;) And might I ask how have you been doing so far with that army? Heh. I don't play Crisis suit-heavy: just the commander and a single unit of Elites. My backbone is Fire Warriors, like the fluff says. Success-wise ... mmm, maybe 2/3 wins. I've never kept close track of these things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prathios Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Wow that's what I like to hear. I actually like Fire Warriors very much. They are good looking effective troops and don't have the cheese factor of a bunch of Crisis Suits who jump out from behind trees, shoot, and run away. Well good luck with your non Imperial army heretic... :angry: I just got the Nid Dex... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter52 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 Now to hope for similar news for the Sisters of Battle. I really want a reason to get back into 40K... especially new models, plastic ones that are easier to paint... Although if they release high quality plastic GK models with this codex update, I might actually be convinced to buy some of them and start a small GK force, too... I'm just tired of painting metal models, it's not for me. I don't have much time left to begin with right now... and I'm not exactly a skilled painter to begin with either. Yeah, I feel ya. It annoys me that I have to convert so much of my stuff (I don't feel like buying melta or heavy flamer sisters) instead of having a box set (while at the same time am kinda glad it forces me to be original) with all the options....and what is the deal with grenades? The sister models all have them but I never pay points for them, so I really am :) that my models can't be WYSIWYG. Double <_< . But on the brightside, I have almost completed all my infantry and am going to finish up my first rhino tonight (...maybe...actually probably not. Playing KH2 for the first time, been distracting :P ) and it has lead to my painting skills being substantially improved....for me to work on my GKs! :lol: But I hope that can enjoy your brothers-in-inquisition-arms when they do come out with them. Also, thought! Have you seen the green for the arbites? When those come out for planet strike, a simple head swap and SM scout bolter and bam! New sister model for the time being! That could be interesting....like apprentice sisters..... So where I was coming from had far less to do with playing "easy" opponents -- FAR from it (if anything, it is they who have educated me over the years). Rather, I just want to play against non-power-armoured foes much more regularly. Only about 10% - 15% of my games are against non power-armour. It gets old after a while. :( IMHO, GW needs to make the very solid and strong case that non-Imperial armies are worth playing. I myself have branched out to Tau (now have a bit over 2200 pts, 1500 of it painted) and am in the process of collecting Tyranids with the aim of fielding them in about 12-18 months. I practically feel it is my duty in this locale to provide some gaming variety. (Helps that I have an inherent interest in all these armies, but I have always been the type of person who looks to do something different from the crowd.) I assert again, I think that there are alot of good non-imperial armies. Orks are obvious in so many ways: Amazing models, favorable 5th edition rules and just fun to play. Eldar as also a very strong book, full of diversity with the different craftworld profiles and SCs, a variety of unit selections ranging from jetbikes to dire avengers to WRAITHGUARD (which is still cool idea to run as an army IMO). Tau, Necrons and Tyrannids, while not as prominent, still have plenty of advocates who love to play them and play them well. Once again, I think it is a local issue. Back in Seattle, we had 2 Ork (one of which had IG) players, 1 DE player, 1 SW player (who also had eldar), 1 eldar player, 1 SM player, 1 Nid player and me. A good mix me thinks and they were all really good players. I think it is ruff for you because you are being forced to create that diversity which you crave when everyone else is leeching it off of you and not having to change. I hope the best for you and maybe IG's release will convince some guys in your area to drop the 3+ and take up the trusty lasgun. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1923767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Idaeus Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Im so glad that this rumor is growing. Ive heard talk of it at GW shops and in other forums, and I am just so happy!! What I CANT wait for is to see all of the people jumping on the band wagon when the release is made, i will obviously be first in line at my GW store, but i wanna see all the people who mock the GK's as a mistake or bad idea. I will just laugh in there faces when there are no more left. REMEMBER THE 666 WORDS, BROTHERS, AND CHANT THEM WHEN OUR DAY COMES. take up your halberds and stormbolters boys, our day of glory is here!! just so excited!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1924434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Idaeus Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I hope the best for you and maybe IG's release will convince some guys in your area to drop the 3+ and take up the trusty lasgun. ;) HERESY!!! ;) ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1924437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Idaeus Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 NEWS, CHILDREN!!!!! Okay, so I now have unconfirmed rumors from GW employee's, you know, your friendly GW workshop redshirts, and a manager, that they have heard talk about the following codex's being cued up for updates: Necrons Dark Eldar DAEMON freaking HUNTERS!!! Im not sure what order they are going to be released in, but its possible its the order above, but apparently they hear that these codex have been on plan for an overhauling for a bit, since the chaos warriors Fantasy codex was being advertised for release. I say we give em a little goading with like a petition to make those most awesome of warriors, Grey Knights, ( lets face it, even if you only play chaos, you know you think that the GK are just so cool, and under appreciated.) Oh, and there is supposedly some work being done on the Legion of the Damned, as the codex gives you nothing as to wth they are or what they really look like so you cant really paint them, Keep your ears and eyes open and do what any God-Emperor loving, Inquisitor-fearing, Imperial servant would do REPORT IT!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1928132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I am wiping away tears of joy at all this. I haven't touched my Daemonhunters in forever (aside from random spot fill ins, which they usually do pretty awesome in) and all this just brings the fire back into my life. I've been working on my GK Land raider for a while now, and as soon as proper news jumps up for the release it shall be done. I can't wait, I'm jittering already! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1928414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Great news! Like many of you, I've gone dormant (actually I've lately gone Tau, it seems Number 6 and I have similar tastes!). I can't wait to dust up my GKs, though. With new rules and models from FW, I'll be able to indulge my need to spend on miniature warriors even more! Phil ps. Ever since delving into Tau a couple of months ago, I've learned that this codex needs a bit of an update, mostly to keep up with codex creep. My best friend has started Orks, so you can imagine my problems! Anyways, I figure with a WH, a DH, a Necron, a Tau and an SM army, I should pretty much always be up for a new Codex... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1928606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf's Bane Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 NecronsDark Eldar DAEMON freaking HUNTERS!!! Hi!! I have heard in Warseer by Brimgstone, that didn't start working with Necrons, so, at least, Necrons will long two more years with this Codex. What I know, from Warseer, is November will be a Space Wolfy month, then there is a "mysterious" codex and then it will be Dark Eldar. The roumours about this "misterious" codex are very big, as you can imagine, but there is three big candidates ... a) Grey Knights (this is very probable just because the roumour about the plastic GK being in works more than one year ago and the news about Phill Kelly working in the codex right now). ;) Blood Angels (this is probable just because the roumour about the new Space Hulk being the termis blood angel). c) Tiranids / Tau (these are not very probable). Just, keep waiting at least, one more year to knwo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1928683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredWing Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 ...actually I've lately gone Tau, it seems Number 6 and I have similar tastes!Radicals...the path to heresy beckons you both!!!! :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163350-codex-grey-knights/page/2/#findComment-1928767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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