Brother DjoulZ Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Hi guys, I have a big project that I'm about to start. My friend's birthday is in 2 weeks. He plays Ultra Marines while I play BT. I want to make something special for him. My idea is to have a BT marine and an UM marine shwing friendship to eachother. I don't know how you say that in English, as I'm not a native speaker, but I'd like them to hold each other by the shoulders. Have a look at those pics to get the idea NOTE : pics are randomly taken from the Net, i don't know the people and the cats pictured ! Guys Cats I guess you get the idea. Challenges are : shaping the arms so that the pose is realistic in some way, managing to paint UM properly (get UM blue, quickly), Deadline in 2 weeks. I'll probably have to use this technic to get the arms in position. Never tried it. And this one also to have convincing hands. I'll post pics tomorrow. I'm buying some more paints tomorrow. What colour should I get to highlight Ultarmarines blue ? Any help, suggestion, comment is welcome ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 If I were going to work on this, I might start with a handshake instead. Maybe a warrior's handshake where the two men grasp each other's right arm just below the elbow. Or a high-five. The two could high-five over the corpse of a dead Warboss. Just some ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1923595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewligan Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Perhaps they could be making out? <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1923604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother DjoulZ Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 High five is not that common where I live, this is more american I think. Warrior's handshake could work, I'll try to pose them like this, just to see if I like it. Making out ? <_< No thanks, friendship has its limits even in France ! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1923614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neth_Dha_Phaos Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 IMO... fist pound pose: Fist Pound Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1923698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbender Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 My idea is to have a BT marine and an UM marine shwing friendship to eachother. Marines sometimes exchange wargear and add personal heraldry to show relationship. maybe let the BT have a roman crest? ++EDIT++ Removed board inappropriate imagery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1924526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Jester Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 you could try them each leaning against a wall passing a cigar? only other good one is the warriors handshake, or exchanging combat blades?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1924747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sasha Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 How about an Attack bike or Land speeder? No conversion needed, just painting? If you want to be cheeky, have you seen the new injured marines? BT defending injured UM? Biker arms are straight, so easier to mod, about a roadside handshake between biker and standing guy? I love this idea, PLEEEEAASE post the picture. My son plays Necrons. Now I have to figure out how to model a marine hugging a toaster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1924755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 The exchange of wargear idea gets me thinking about other gifts. What about a Templar kneeling and cutting the scalp off of an ork and handing it to an Ultramarine? Kind of gruesome but I like the idea of exchanging battle trophies. Maybe just handing over a boss pole or orky weapon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1924769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Of time becomes a problem you could have them bumping fists, for simplicity of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1924820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeGuy Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 If you really want to show Astartes friendship, model the 2 marines standing back to back blowing the hell out of some Xenos/Heretic/Innocent Bystander scum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1924871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I vote innocent bystanders. The battle trophy idea is good too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1924960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Looking forward to some progress of this. Great idea already :lol:. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1925125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Jester Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 i like the idea of sitting on some smoking corpse sharing a snack. blood pools and bone splinters of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1925536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtNACHO Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 How about you have the UM skipping and picking flowers, he is obviously a vanguard and sternguard veteran, carries a rune blade and a storm shield, and on his banner have the words "I'm a GW pet" Give the BT face palming with standard gear and a banner that says "I rep. all non C:SM, SM armies." I can't find the brotherly love, but I can't imagine a UM ever wanting to befriend or help anybody else out. just for a little constructive criticism. You could have the Um wounded on the ground. A BT kneeling over him screaming for a medic. both are firing like crazy! oh, and make sure the UM is injured!! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1925812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeGuy Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I don't know what it is exactly, but somehow I get the impression that sgtNACHO doesn't like Ultramarines very much. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1926114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 How about you have the UM skipping and picking flowers, he is obviously a vanguard and sternguard veteran, carries a rune blade and a storm shield, and on his banner have the words "I'm a GW pet" Give the BT face palming with standard gear and a banner that says "I rep. all non C:SM, SM armies." I can't find the brotherly love, but I can't imagine a UM ever wanting to befriend or help anybody else out. just for a little constructive criticism. You could have the Um wounded on the ground. A BT kneeling over him screaming for a medic. both are firing like crazy! oh, and make sure the UM is injured!! :D I don't care who you are...that's funny right there. I'd probably stick with the handshake, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1926176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 This made me think pretty well, and given I'm a bit of an Alkie, How about the two space marines walking with a beer in their hands. you can have one pulling back the other slightly (just take a bolter left hand and turn it upside down and extent out) and have the other lean back like getting pulled. then fashion a mug in for each SM. nothing says friendship like two guys getting toasted! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1926181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother DjoulZ Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 Many thanks, guys, for your replies. It's funny to see the obvious cultural differences when it comes to showing friendship ! I don't want to make anything obviously cheeky this time because there's already something similar in my mind, waiting to materialize but now is not the right occasion : A neophyte standing over a dead UM lying on the ground, with a chainsword plunged into the UM's chest ! *Humiliation* The scene taking place in a pool of blood much like this one : wonderful scene (IMO) by Dominus Ex Machina I don't have much time to complete my project so I can't spend long making a nice diorama or building cool but complex details. I'll focus on their stance. Though the battle trophy idea is great, I have nothing except for marines part in my bitz box, and I don't want to represent a scene of allegiance. I say no to cheekiness, and to obedience too ! The idea of marines standing back to back is cool, but I'd have to invest in a box xenos of some sort to have the marines surrounded by ennemies, if you picture it the same way as I do... Here a 3 poses, please tell me which one you prefer and why. I may not follow the general opinion, I'm more interested in the reasons why you prefer a particular pose ! The black-primed guy will be my BT. The main differences are in the arms/hands positionning ! Pose 1 Pose 2 Pose 3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1926720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I don't think that pose 3 is what you're looking for. The way they're holding one another back almost implies that they're trying to protect each other or in competition to kill the most. It's not a bad stance, but I don't think that's what you wanted. Of poses 1 and 2, pose 1 appears the most like they are "arm in arm." Pose 2 has the arms locked in kind of an odd way. Not my favorite. Good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1926724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I don't think that pose 3 is what you're looking for. The way they're holding one another back almost implies that they're trying to protect each other or in competition to kill the most. It's not a bad stance, but I don't think that's what you wanted. Of poses 1 and 2, pose 1 appears the most like they are "arm in arm." Pose 2 has the arms locked in kind of an odd way. Not my favorite. Good luck. agreed. when it comes to the weapon arms to may want to have them at ease, otherwise it may look like an imcomplete diorama. but definitely pose one, suggested at ease. kinda like two guys that haven't seen each other in a while walking away from killing off many things. best of luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1926730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABER0404 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I think if you turned the templars head so it was facing the ultra, you could make it look like something is coming at him from behind and the templar is trying to push him away so he can swing at oncomming enemy. That way the arms would be fine the way they are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1927225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Watch me cringe from the horrible images my mind plagues upon me :) Pose 1: looks like they're watching something in the sky ;) Pose 2: best out of the three, but maybe but the hands onto the shoulderpads to stop anything weird :) Pose 3 = no. It looks wrong somehow... in a non-SM-manly way... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1927231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I just realized that due to the shoulder pads its kinda hard to put your arm around someone. All you have to do know is put a giant demolished defiler right behind them :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1927238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I'd skip the whole touching each other deal. I know what you're aiming for, but it won't look right with the limited posing the sculpts allow. You might try having one Marine kneeling, firing a bolter or bolt pistol, and the other standing, firing over his shoulder. Both aiming at the same target. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163621-ultramarines-black-templars-friendship/#findComment-1927241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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