Vodunius Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) Yup I've got the rulebook handy but not the box. The ratios were 3-2-2-1-2-1 respectively (in the order listed above), the fluff was that "Creatures captured by the Tyranids aren't always immediately consumed or processed by the Norn-Queen. They may be placed into temporary storage.." The Scythes were like the Dark Angels in that they have two chapter badges: the simple scythe used by regular marines, and the Emperor wielding a scythe from the back of a rearing stallion that was depicted on banners and on some officers shoulder pads, there is a picture floating around the web which was apparently an unused cover for either ASC or Tyranid Attack that showed Terminators with this emblem (they were entirely yellow apart from the shoulderpads which were black with yellow trims). There were one or two depictions of guns with horse-head iconography. The example scout sergeant had a single crossed scythe on his shoulderpad but bore a pair of crossed scythes in the corner of his back banner which was noted as denoting veteran status. The Scouts of the time had a metal plate in the center of their chest plate, Smurf scouts had a roman numeral on this plate denoting their squad, the Scythes however painted it in black & coloured checker pattern, with the colour denoting the squad. There was a single picture of power armoured marines whose right shoulderpads bore markings akin to Space Wolf Pack Markings - its possible that the colours of these worked the same as the scouts chest plates, however the scout sergeant bore the white chevron which was the then codex marking for scout sergeant (but then the Blood Angel sergeant also used this along with the Blood Angels own sergeant marking). Edited October 7, 2009 by Vodunius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2142100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherLoki Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) I like the idea of the crossed scythes denoting veteran status. That's what I've used in my army for my command squad veterans. Edit rather than double post: I don't wish to hijack the thread but it occurred to me that some other Scythes fans might be interested in the special characters I designed for the chapter, along the lines of the ones in the 5th ed marine codex. I've posted them up to my blog. Anybody's welcome to try them out in their own games, and I'd welcome feedback. http://littlewars.co.uk/2009/10/the-2nd-ty...man-i-am-today/ Pete Edited October 7, 2009 by BrotherLoki Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2142172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scythes Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) Hi All, I've been on a break for a long weekend recently, so missed out on some of the great discussion going on here. Having read through the posts, I've noted a lot of unsubstantiated references bear uncanny resemblance to my own Scythes fluff. That has been around since 1997 and beyond, so there is more than enough chance folks have quoted my background and it has been put in wikipedias etc. Also that image of Scouts and Sargents that was unreleased comes from an artwork card I discovered a few years ago. It is part of my website history article. All of which will be reinstated soon. Overall, in my joint effort with Falces, we aimed to ensure that any background we released would be as accurate as possible to ensure there is no further conjecture over this Chapter. But I do reiterate Falces' comments, your army is your own and enjoy making it so! We have been commenting over emails at the positive feedback and folks getting stuck into their collections since the release and that's what it's all about! I am currently working on the updated edition, which will be released soon, this will include confirmed sources based on quotes forwarded by Sothan warriors across the stars!.. well, okay, some top rate members here on BnC. http://www.the-scythes.com/images/the_tenax.jpg As for my own fiction based upon the stage of solid background that is the History Report, my small band of Scythes were separated from the fleet during the escape from Sotha. They led out a small ragtag flotilla of trade ships and freighters, performing a rearguard action which to all indications, seems to have destroyed their Frigate the Tenax.. however there have been sightings of late.. and Interrogator Sandoe has decided to investigate! More soon my fellow Sothans :P Edited October 8, 2009 by The Scythes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2142273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 vodunius, you have any artwork to show from Advanced Space Crusade? Intrested in how it looked with the items you described. Was there any fluff as to why there was 2 chapter badges? Do you know where to look for this unused ASC cover would be found? Was the Scythes color scheme the same as it is now from ASC? brotherloki, how do you make these characters? Which rules did you use for them? Where is the fluff for the Power scythe used by the chapter master found? Has anyone played the Scythes in Battlefleet gothic? "The Scythes", love that picture. You make it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2142322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scythes Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I am currently working on uploading the renovated Scythes website most folks are referring too, a lot of the mentioned artwork will be online shortly with references. Some will be long out of print images from the early days of the Tyrannic background. So plenty of old Scythe artwork and Tryanid fights. Falces colour scheme is the accurate GW canon, I adopted new livery as I enjoy working with Yellow (yes I am mad) and decided not unlike the Dark Angels 1st Company, such a catastrophic event deserved a scheme change. I chose a single Scythe to represent the loss of a brother by each marine. Until the Chapter (in my storyline) is reformed proper, they will remain as lone Scythes, with solitary emblems. The above art is a piece I worked on, as a 'painting' depicting the Tenax in action before her disappearance. It is part of a rejuvenated history (story-line) of my own Scythes. I have an interview with Interrogator Sandoe shortly, so this may be my last entry in this thread. I'll indicate when the website is online and being fed various projects I have been working on my own and alongside Falces. Not to mention a sectiond dedicated to my fellow Sothan to showcase his original scheme Scythes. - Seb. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2142356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherLoki Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 brotherloki, how do you make these characters? Which rules did you use for them? They're just my homebrew ones, which I created along the lines of the ones in the back of the marine codex. I wanted to be able to represent the Scythes preoccupation with the Tyranid threat. The only ones left are the Tyrannic war veterans, and the new reruits they are training. I just thought about the kind of characters that would create. A bit of shameless stealing from Andrew and Sebastian (sorry guys) gave me Thrasius as a reluctant chapter master and the idea of a Librarian who's trying to turn the hive mind against itself. The ripper familiar seemed like comedy gold at the time, though my flatmate maintains that the ripper's controlling Lucien not the other way around. The idea of the 'big game hunter' scout sergeant kind of created itself, but was inspired by Telion. I basically thought about fluffy rules, then made a guess at how to point cost them, based on other characters in the codex etc. Generally I've erred on the side of caution and guessed high, although bearing in mind how situational some of their abilities are (especially Lucien and Trajan) I suspect they may be slightly underpointed when facing Tyranids, but overpointed when facing anybody else. If you mean physically how did I create them, I just did it in a word processor (OpenOffice in my case), and then converted them to PDF. OpenOffice has this feature built in, or there's a neat bit of software called CutePDF which acts as a virtual printer, so you can print to PDF from any application. Where is the fluff for the Power scythe used by the chapter master found? Has anyone played the Scythes in Battlefleet gothic? The idea of Thorcyra giving Thrasius the chapter relic at the Giant's Coffin may have come from FalcesImperatoris, I don't recall. The bit about it being used to execute traitor marines was made up by me. I wanted to justify the existance of a giant power scythe. A scythe is an absolutely stupid weapon - it's slow and unwieldy, and as much a danger to the user and his allies as the enemy. I figured it's traditionally associated with 2 things - agriculture and death. Agriculture seemed llike a non-starter, so death it was. I could see a scythe being used to execute kneeling prisoners, so I decided it had done just that during the Scouring. I figure that the Scythes are probably an Ultramarines successor, being out on the galactic East, and that when they invest new chapters they probably provide them with some sort of relic to tie them to their parent chapter and upon which to build their own traditions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2142696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Man I Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I've been reading this thread and have to say that the amount of work that has gone into the project is unreal! Kudos! After reading some of the comments of people wanting to field "fluffy" Scythe force, I cant help but think that perhaps the new SW codex might work. Now hear me out.....The command structure of the chapter is gutted, so quality leadership needs to be spread around the chapter to maximize the spread of experience, IE the Wolf Guard. The few remaining tactical marines would be well versed in fighting "horde" type armies and as such thier shooting would be above average in terms of inflicting max casulties with min firepower, IE Grey Hunters. Some of the Vets who survived the dark days of the Tyranids, now maybe more loner types or band together with others from the same time, who are now some of the "dirtiest" of the chapters fighters, IE Lone Wolves and Wolf Scouts. The devestators would have limited access to heavy weapons so would be fewer in number, but would be above average in terms of maximizing thier small numbers, IE Long Fangs. And finally to try and bring the fighting effectiveness up to speed a little more quickly to help with surviability of the chapter in the long term, new recruits, full of p*ss and viniger, would skip the traditional "scout" phase and be placed in the thick of things, IE Blood Claws. I know its not perfect, but I think it works in terms of reflecting the more "non" codex slant the chapter feels like it has to have right now in the short term to survive. But thats just my thoughts on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2143080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Very nice stuff and I look forward to seeing your updated site. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2143184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherLoki Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I could see using the wolves codex Iron Man, but personally I very much wanted to build a scout heavy army, and I reasoned that they wouldn't have enough power armour to go around. I think C:SM is probably a better representation in the long run. I did consider having counterattack as part of the chapter tactics given by my characters though, since its very much a 'hold the line against desparate odds' ability, and a great anti tyranid tool. It seemed too close to the wolves though. Maybe just for veterans, terminators, dreadnoughts and independent characters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2143335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcesImperatoris Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) The idea of Thorcyra giving Thrasius the chapter relic at the Giant's Coffin may have come from FalcesImperatoris, I don't recall. yeah - Master Thrasius was an idea I created years ago. I like the frist name you have gaven him. (I never came up with a first name, so if its ok with you - I think I will officially adopt it for him.) If anyone is Interested Thrasius is an old Latin name meaning 'bold'. I always viewed Thrasius as a somewhat of a reluctant hero, not comfortable with the level of responsibility he has had thrust upon him. In my old army, he used to fly about on a jump pack with a sort of 'death wish' thing going for him. In the new army (when I get round to making him) he is going to be on foot, to try and give a more 'mature' feel to him as he has grown to fully understand the burden of command and the responsibility he has to re-build the chapter. As to special rules you have - they seem to give a rough approximation to me. In my army (when I finally get it built some point in the next couple of years) I was planning to just take a Chapter Master and give him a relic blade. (though thats just so I can use them in tournaments and other places). As to which codex to use - The normal Codex Space Marines is the best fit I think. Just choose stuff that’s appropriate and you are good to go. I don’t think Space Wolves is that great a fit myself - as its going to play a bit too 'space wolfy' I think. (though as always - players should feel free to do what they like with their own army! My opinion is no more valid than anyone elses.) Ideally when playing scythes - you shouldn't have lots of advantages, bonuses or special rules. I actually think you should feel like your army is lacking power and you are the under-dog when playing them. The Scythes don't need all the cool stuff or fancy advantages. They make do with what little they have available to them and get on with things - that’s what makes them who they are. Edited October 9, 2009 by FalcesImperatoris Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2144494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherLoki Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) By all means, use the name - I've borrowed enough of your fluff, I owe you some back! I figured Iago sounded like a suitably classical heroic name. In tournaments I just use him as a codex captain (so I can use the command squad) with relic blade. I wanted to come up with some chapter tactics for friendly games though, but keep the advantages very focused on fighting tyranids. The idea of the command squad but no honour guard thing came simply because the first models I converted for the army were my command squad, under the 4th ed Dex, and if I wanted Thrasius to have a command squad under the new one, he couldn't be a normal chapter master, since they have honour guard instead. I felt that there was unlikely to be a stack of artificer armour and shiny kit lying around after they lost their homeworld. The prevalence of hellfire shells is because they were introduced to deal with tyranids in 2nd ed, and I figure whats left of the Scythes has close ties to the Ordo Xenos, so will have access to equipment like that. For the same reason I use a Sternguard squad to represent an attached Deathwatch kill-team. Edited October 9, 2009 by BrotherLoki Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2144533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scythes Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) Hi All, Just kicked off the website Redux, fleshed out the Galleries and hosted Falces work to boot. I will be filling out his section "Heart of Sotha" this weekend also. On top of this, I discovered some long forgotten zipfiles and much to my delight.. like a Scythe finding relics from Sotha itself.. there are photos of my earliest models and even some original first website artwork. I'll be sure to add features on these over the next few days! Nothing like nostalgia! :P For now, enjoy the new look The Scythes I'm busying away in the background when I have time, uploading more. Following this relaunch, a new addition of the Report will be released with the more recent additions mentioned here and elsewhere. :) best, Seb. Edited October 10, 2009 by The Scythes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2145668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) "Scythes", love the website. Can't wait to see it grow. I sent you a couple of pics that i didn't see in the site. Hope they help. What is going to be the size of your army aboard the Tenax? Are you going to include histories (fluff) to both Falces and your army? I need to ask a question, in the Advanced space crusade, did it suggest Scythe tactics as to how to board and attack the hive ships? Did it give an army list as to how many space marines and scouts went aboard the ship? Going by the pictues there seems to be alot in one ship. Need infomation so i can create my fluff for my Scythes army. In your opinion, how many marines/scouts would be sent to board and attack a hive ship? Now remember that the hive fleet consisted many ships, so how would they proritize their targets? Is there any diffrence between Advanced Space Crusade and Space Crusade? Where is the info on the Scythes found in? Trying to find them on ebay and don't want to buy the wrong one. Just wanting to get the rule/mission books and any referance material. Is there any info as to the size of the Scythes of the Emperor chapter or its fleet? How old is the chapter? I know that codex doesn't limit the size of the scout (10th) company. So in your opinion what would the ratio be from marine to scout? Falces, what is going to be the size of your army? I know you have fluff for a Battle barge "Heart of Sotha". Are you going for a battle company of survivors? During the Tyranid invasion of Sotha, would the Scythes also try to rescue citizens of Sotha during the brakeout? When the chapter master gives the order to withdraw from Sotha, what would they try to save from the Chapter monistary? I see the Scythes as being close to the Flesh Tearers chapter because the Flesh Tearers know that they are dieing out and are down right lethal in combat due to this knowledge. Edited October 10, 2009 by brother varen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2146179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scythes Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 What is going to be the size of your army aboard the Tenax? Are you going to include histories (fluff) to both Falces and your army? At this moment, only eight marines in the Tenax storyline, though I am hoping to work on a Scout heavy cobat patrol force for some fun skirmish games. This will grow alongside further background on my Scythes, working off the factual history we have compiled. I know Falces has similar intentions with his own storyline. I need to ask a question, in the Advanced space crusade, did it suggest Scythe tactics as to how to board and attack the hive ships? Did it give an army list as to how many space marines and scouts went aboard the ship? Going by the pictues there seems to be alot in one ship. Need infomation so i can create my fluff for my Scythes army. In your opinion, how many marines/scouts would be sent to board and attack a hive ship? Now remember that the hive fleet consisted many ships, so how would they proritize their targets? To be honest, I am unsure. Though it does seem the Chapter committed serious numbers against the awaking hiveships as they appeared in system space. It is remarked by GW fiction, that the Scythes were quite unaware just how much trouble they were really in with this new strain of Tyranids. If I recall the report correctly, Brother Remas was the only survivor of an entire company level action during these boardings. That should indicate the numbers pretty well. Is there any diffrence between Advanced Space Crusade and Space Crusade? Where is the info on the Scythes found in? Trying to find them on ebay and don't want to buy the wrong one. Just wanting to get the rule/mission books and any referance material. Hmmm.. Falces was very accurate with citing references, best check those in the Report document. Is there any info as to the size of the Scythes of the Emperor chapter or its fleet? How old is the chapter? I know that codex doesn't limit the size of the scout (10th) company. So in your opinion what would the ratio be from marine to scout? In general I present day, a high ratio of scouts to marines due to their rebuilding. As for size of fleet etc, I suspect the standard for any young Chapter when compared to the age of the Ultramarines for example. But this is personal opinion. During the Tyranid invasion of Sotha, would the Scythes also try to rescue citizens of Sotha during the brakeout? When the chapter master gives the order to withdraw from Sotha, what would they try to save from the Chapter monistary? I imagine they would help where possible and as any Chapter, try and save as much as they could when they knew all was lost. But your guess is as good as mine without actual GW info. hope this helps, a lot is opinion mind you. Everything true and accurate is in the Report with references :D Thanks for the images, I've already uploaded the Scythes Banner artwork as I did not have that piece. best, Seb. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2146616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) Is there any diffrence between Advanced Space Crusade and Space Crusade? Completely different games, Space Crusade is a kids game depicting a joint Ultramarine, Blood Angel & Imperial Fist boarding action of a Space Hulk filled with Orks, Genestealers and Chaos Space Marines, its incredibly fluff light (it doesn't even explain why its a joint operation or why there are so many different enemies of mankind on board) and has no mention of Tyranids or Scythes. Did it give an army list as to how many space marines and scouts went aboard the ship? A full scale "battle" in which the marine player was attempting to kill a hiveship by destroying all 3 primary objectives (energy cortex, respiratory vent and sensory cluster) was 1500 or 1800 points. A 5 man scout squad was 100pts whilst a 5 man terminator squad was 300pts (with PA squads in between). Edited October 11, 2009 by Vodunius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2146727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Vodunius, you have the game, were there any other targets in the game system besides the ones you just mentioned? So, in Advanced Space Crusade; a scout squad (5 man) = 100pts, Power armour squad (5 man or 10) = 150 pts, and the Terminator squad (5 man) = 300pts. A average game was about 1500 to 1800 pts.? Is this from the game system itself? Did it give discriptions and purpose of the energy cortex, respiratory vent, and the sensory cluster in a hiveship? What were the opposing players troops (Tyranids) and cost? Is there any other information from the game you think is important to know? "Scythes", while collecting the information for the report, did you come across anything that gave an idea to the size of the chapter or fleet of the Scythes before the fall of Sotha? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2147141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 "Scythes", how did you make the chapter symbol? Is it a homemade transfer or free hand? When will the "Heart of Sotha" information be uploaded to the site? Do we have any idea has to how old the chapter was before the fall? I think that the normal marine codex will work, but the "lonewolf" entry in the Space Wolf codex has an apeal to it. A lone survivor, who lost his whole squad/company in battle with the Tyranids, who seeks death while taking as many enemies as possible. One who would volunteer for any suidical mission possible. Would be Ironic if that character could never find that one enemy to fuill his vow. Character might think he is cursed, while other marines see him as blessed by the Emperor. It might be intresting to add one to the army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2147527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scythes Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) Hi Varen, Falces and I were pretty complete with all the information we could find. Falces had access to a lot of resources long since out of print also. The Report contains as much info as we could find and no more. So far only one extra fact from recent codex has been uncovered and that was merely a mention of an action they were involved in. At this point any answers are merely interpretive and conjecture. If you take the date of the Fall of Sotha, backward through fighting Tau, skipping the first Tyrannic war, not being involved in the Badab war and so on.. they are easily several hundred years old. Other than that, we have turned up nothing else. :D I'm working on adding Falces character descriptions, it will be a couple of days yet before that is uploaded. As for the single Scythe logo, I created that in a art program and produced transfers from the print work. I'll be uploading a transfer sheet design in the near future once I have fleshed it out. best, Seb. Edited October 11, 2009 by The Scythes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2147534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Sorry for being a heel about all the questions. I guess i'll write it up and see what you all think about my fluff. There seems to be alot of gray areas and unknowns to the Scythes. I think i will start with a company size force of survivors (mainly because i have a battle company waiting to be built). This might change though, depending on your responses. They will be traveling through the stars in a strike cruiser ( no name yet). "Scythes", i look forward to the transfer sheet upload. May i make a request though, can you make a transfer sheet for each chapter symbol? for example, the 1 scythe, crossed scythes, and maybe include some transfers of the Emperor riding a stallion armed with a scythe. I like all 3 symbols and plan on including them with my army. Now just have to think of chapter banners. :no: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2147588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcesImperatoris Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 By all means, use the name - I've borrowed enough of your fluff, I owe you some back! I figured Iago sounded like a suitably classical heroic name. In tournaments I just use him as a codex captain (so I can use the command squad) with relic blade. I wanted to come up with some chapter tactics for friendly games though, but keep the advantages very focused on fighting tyranids. The idea of the command squad but no honour guard thing came simply because the first models I converted for the army were my command squad, under the 4th ed Dex, and if I wanted Thrasius to have a command squad under the new one, he couldn't be a normal chapter master, since they have honour guard instead. I felt that there was unlikely to be a stack of artificer armour and shiny kit lying around after they lost their homeworld. The prevalence of hellfire shells is because they were introduced to deal with tyranids in 2nd ed, and I figure whats left of the Scythes has close ties to the Ordo Xenos, so will have access to equipment like that. For the same reason I use a Sternguard squad to represent an attached Deathwatch kill-team. Sounds very cool - and I agree with your line of thinking. I intend to use Thrasius as a Master in games, purely so I can have the Heart of Sotha nuke things from orbit on occasion. In no way should he have an honour guard though, as he has far more in common with a Captain in terms of support and gear etc. I intend to have him just join squads of marines as and when, operating where he is needed most. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2148077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcesImperatoris Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 "Scythes", i look forward to the transfer sheet upload. May i make a request though, can you make a transfer sheet for each chapter symbol? for example, the 1 scythe, crossed scythes, and maybe include some transfers of the Emperor riding a stallion armed with a scythe. I like all 3 symbols and plan on including them with my army. Now just have to think of chapter banners. :) You could try to paint the symbols? With marine shoulder pads being as heavily curved as they are - its often such a pain to apply transfers without wrinkles and getting them to fit over any panel lines, that its actually quicker to just paint the details on. Its not as hard as it may first seem, and with a little bit of practice and a steady hand, you can soon be turning out scythe symbols no problem. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2148092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Falces, nice to see you. I would love to try to paint the symbols. The only problem is that i have no or very little skill at painting. I have even looked into painting services. My biggest problem is that i'm a perfectionist and get very dissappointed when things don't come out the way i would like. Besides i would like to have an army that is well painted, due to the investment of cost for the army. Just saw your Tobias model last night. Beautiful work. Are you including the named Scythes in your army? When modeling the Scythes, should all of them have tyranid trophies? I have seen many with tyranid carapace plates attached to their armour. Also, should vehicles have trophies attached? Is this the part of the tests the scouts have to go through, to get a tyranid trophy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2148609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) I have been thinking of fluff for my army, when i remembered an entry for a table battle at a gamesday. It was to salvage or claim an Scythes battle barge named " The Scythe of Righteousness". I know the spelling is not right, but you get the idea. I think the battle happened in more than one gamesday, but changed alittle. I tried to track it down in the White Dwarfs, but i can't find it. I know it is there, it is in a list of table battles that you could sign up for. It was like two sentences in small writting. I didn't know if this was something you were intrested in (Falces and Scythes). I remember two battle barges were named though, just can't remeber where though. When i have more time i will try again, if you want the info. Edited October 13, 2009 by bannus Corrected spelling. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2149105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcesImperatoris Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Falces, nice to see you. I would love to try to paint the symbols. The only problem is that i have no or very little skill at painting. I have even looked into painting services. My biggest problem is that i'm a perfectionist and get very dissappointed when things don't come out the way i would like. Besides i would like to have an army that is well painted, due to the investment of cost for the army. Just saw your Tobias model last night. Beautiful work. Are you including the named Scythes in your army? When modeling the Scythes, should all of them have tyranid trophies? I have seen many with tyranid carapace plates attached to their armour. Also, should vehicles have trophies attached? Is this the part of the tests the scouts have to go through, to get a tyranid trophy? All the scythes I have done are members of my army. They are all just tactical marines for the most part. (I am trying to give each man character and depth and make him a mini-hero). As to Nid trophies - that’s up to you to decide for your army. There are no specific background reasons that they would need to have them - I have just been including a few for flavour (in the same way that I have nid critters on the bases) - to try and give the sense that my chaps have been stuck on some awful infested planet fighting the horrors of the hive for weeks. (which is why their kit is all weathered and damaged - and they have had to make 'field repairs' etc with nid plates.) You can add bits or not, to suit your own personal taste and style of army. I have been thinking of fluff for my army, when i remembered an entry for a table battle at a gamesday. It was to salvage or claim an Scythes battle barge named " The Scythe of Righteousness". I know the spelling is not right, but you get the idea. I think the battle happened in more than one gamesday, but changed alittle. I tried to track it down in the White Dwarfs, but i can't find it. I know it is there, it is in a list of table battles that you could sign up for. It was like two sentences in small writting. I didn't know if this was something you were intrested in (Falces and Scythes). I remember two battle barges were named though, just can't remeber where though. When i have more time i will try again, if you want the info. cool - I dont know anything about this - but let us know if you find anything. It sounds like something a GCN gaming club might have put on - so while cool, is probably not 'official' background. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2149917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scythes Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Hi All, Checking the archives of Bolter and Chainsword, I happened across the following Transfer Sheets. I am posting links here for those following this thread : Scythes of the Emperor Transfer Sheet - By BellofLostSouls Scythes of the Emperor Transfer Sheet - By Tubal I am currently working on a sheet with my own variation for those who prefer the single Scythe iconography. I should have that finished later in the week. In addition, the following graphic is what I use in Dawn of War for my own capture flag : http://www.the-scythes.com/images/gallery/scythes_banner_new.jpg Banner in 32bit TGA format [Download] Feel free to download and use. Hopefully those interested find the above links handy! Seb. Edited October 21, 2009 by Kurgan the Lurker Tubal did the decal, not me, I just uploaded them (hence my name next to the file name) - most of the decals have the maker in their description. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/177349-the-scythes-of-the-emperor-a-factual-history/page/3/#findComment-2151191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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