Growler67 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Here is a Good question... What type of base do we use for thunderwolves? The 60mm base that canis wolfborn uses... or The terminator base? I think thats 25-30mm bases... Anyone know? Answered on a couple of threads already, 60mm just like Canis. For Fenresian Wolves a Cavalry base is sufficient. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2141114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 Answered? not sure, presumed definately. I'm going with termie bases instead of cav bases as it's 40k and we use round bases - but thats personal preference ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2141210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Mek Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Look at the cover of Prospero Burns/ Leman Russ's wolves, Geri and Freki, look exactly like White Lions, the face the ears the mains, everything exactly the same, almost like one robbed from the other =P They look too much like each other for it to be a coincidence! and thus means they make perfect wolves! I'm gonna buy a chariot and use them as Geri and Freki now! http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/TenGhosts/sneak%20peeks/372px-Prospero-burns.jpg http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m490924_99120210010_HighElvesWhiteLionChariot_873x627.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2141593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Look at the cover of Prospero Burns/ Leman Russ's wolves, Geri and Freki, look exactly like White Lions, the face the ears the mains, everything exactly the same, almost like one robbed from the other =PThey look too much like each other for it to be a coincidence! and thus means they make perfect wolves! I'm gonna buy a chariot and use them as Geri and Freki now! Bear in mind Freki and Geri are blackmane wolves and as such are very different from actual fenrisian wolves of any size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2141774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 i had the idea of using The Thing in the Woods from the mordheim range. just file off the spikes and replace the tail and maby the feet and lower jaw with some gree stuff and wolf bits and i could see it being a thunder wolf though i dony know how big they are. another idea would be to convert Orions hunting hounds from the wood elves. though they dont look very wolfish im sure some green stuff could change that. im using them myself to represent my wolf lords Fenrisian wolves ( got the idea from the 13th warrior, bulvi has a Irish Wolf Hound) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2141805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 i had the idea of using The Thing in the Woods from the mordheim range. just file off the spikes and replace the tail and maby the feet and lower jaw with some gree stuff and wolf bits and i could see it being a thunder wolf though i dony know how big they are. another idea would be to convert Orions hunting hounds from the wood elves. though they dont look very wolfish im sure some green stuff could change that. im using them myself to represent my wolf lords Fenrisian wolves ( got the idea from the 13th warrior, bulvi has a Irish Wolf Hound) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2141811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Black undercoat applied to these two last night so if my mate's homebrew cider isn't too dooming this eveing I'll have a crack at getting some paint on these. Not sure which creat company I'll go for but will probably have them using the same colourshceme as the one from the front of the 'dex aas they're pretty and I like red ;) ~Lex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2143166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 This is an excellent topic and the ideas and time people are putting into this and sharing makes me proud. I personally will be waiting for the second wave. I want to see what GW produce first. If they dont then I would try the lions of chrace as I had my eye on them or go for the Warmachine (I think) the 3 wolves that were shown to be expensive but good sculpts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2143212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Love the PP stuff and think that they're wonderful sculpts, I pondered using argus and wolfing them up Morkai style :turned: The issue tho is that they'll not be allowed in tourneys if more than 50% of the mini is non-GW. While for home this'll be fine but it's a dilemma...make an extra set because they look like I want them to or just the one nd use it in all instances. I could be wrong here.. or maybe its just the local tournament scene (which is pretty hard core, we have a bunch of guys that usually go on to nationals and such), but I thought if GW didnt release an appropriate model the 50% rule was waived? As in, since GW does not produce a Thunderwolf Cavalry model, as long as SOMETHING on the model is GW, its legit? We had issues with this previously when a new codex came out and the models had not been released yet... with Drop Pods especially. Some locals (also known as "tools") threw a fit, claiming the only folks who could use DP's were the guys who bought the $100 FW models. The TO's said that when there is not an appropriate model released yet, any model could be used as long as.. I want to say 25% was GW. So, we all had scratch built DP's, usually with a marine or two on it, a SB mount, etc. I fully intend to use the War Wolf from PP for my WG on a TW until GW releases a model.. and I really doubt if any TO is going to say much. Heck, I doubt anyone will notice at all. Oh, and did we figure out what the "official" base size of the model is? Terminator, or Dreadnought? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2144034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Re: Base sizes I would just follow the ones that came with Canis, ie 60mm. Without any official word from GW, that's the best that we can go on. Also, could I make small request that when describing conversions and such please specify whether it's for FENRISIAN wolves or THUNDER wolves. I've noticed posts where one person is describing a Thunder wolf and in the subsequent replies it becomes Fenrisian wolves. Really confusing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2144101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Look at the cover of Prospero Burns/ Leman Russ's wolves, Geri and Freki, look exactly like White Lions, the face the ears the mains, everything exactly the same, almost like one robbed from the other =PThey look too much like each other for it to be a coincidence! and thus means they make perfect wolves! I'm gonna buy a chariot and use them as Geri and Freki now! Bear in mind Freki and Geri are blackmane wolves and as such are very different from actual fenrisian wolves of any size. How do you figure? Blackmane wolves are part of the fenrisian wolf packs in general- they just tend to be bigger, and more viscious. Kinda like people with red hair tend to be taller, its not gauranteed, but the genes are commonly found together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2144137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Brothers....I must make amends I was all set to put brush to wolf last night until an old friend offered me a horn or three of his homebrewed cider....delicious stuff, and then there was the spiced one....and then a few more of the original. The ride home was fraught to say thee least... This being the case I truely and honestly would like to see what can be done by the end of the weekend....watch this space. Re bases...it's the question of cav vs cannis....which ought they come on? No model released so technically you can do whatever you like until something is. If, as stated for myself you're planning on taking these to tournaments then it's probably worth checking with the organisers to ensure there's no issues there with how you've modeled it. Looking forward to seing more with paint in the coming weeks! ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2144226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newobmij Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z291/trogdoriangrey/thunderwolf2.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z291/trogdoriangrey/thunderwolf1.jpg I used a wolf that came with a GI Joe figure to make my Thunderwolf. Placed on a Dreadnought sized base since the only other available T-wolf is similarly mounted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2144520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_G Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Another option to consider would be the rhinox from the warhammer fantasy ogres range. Can be picked up in their bits section. Its expensive, but the scale is just right for a thunderwolf mount if you were to then use something like the chaos warhounds as the fenrisians. It would need to have the body extended a little, and some pretty major sculpting to the head to make it wolfy though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2144522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 That's a much better riding position than I have on mine - the huge manes of the lions maake it problematic to seat the marine further forward. Very cool - glad to see one finished! ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2144609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thontos Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/SteelShade/Space%20Wolves/IMG_4417.jpg my first attempt, funny part was that I didn't have to cut the legs they fit right on with a little push. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/SteelShade/Space%20Wolves/IMG_4420.jpg second attempt, I realized that the dire wolf was too small so I tried to make it larger. the white clay is just a cheap clay I was using as a filler and then I was going to put green stuff over it to make the fur. But while working on this I decided I want to know just how well thunder wolves are going to do in game before I set out to do so much work. so I did this next http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/SteelShade/Space%20Wolves/IMG_4422.jpg Left to right is an Iron Priest, Wolf Lord, regular Thunder Wolf http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/SteelShade/Space%20Wolves/IMG_4425.jpg I used Chaos Knights to make these, the heads are khorne berserker heads with the horns shaved off. Until a nice looking thunder wolf model comes out of GW, which it may never, I’m going to be using these for my Thunder Wolf Cavalry. I actually like the idea of riding a huge wolf into battle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2144680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonMerrick Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I just picked up some of the privateerpress war wolf models. I also am using space marine biker legs and the torso head and arms will be from the wolf pack sprues. I currently am using the termie sized bases for standard Thunderwolf riders but plan on using a larger base for my wolf lord Harald Deathwolf. I think this scale works well based on the illustration in the codex entry. Canis's wolf is the largest according to fluff so I want to emphasize this by having the bases for my Cavalry be smaller. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2184590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Anonymous Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I actually wouldn't recommend biker legs as repositioning them only makes it look like the rider's legs are slack and not really in motion with the model (especially the High Elf war lions, which I'm using for my Lions Rampant cavalry), and would instead recommend just using the 'squatting' legs since they bend at the knee and make it look like the rider is trying to hug the sides with his legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2184662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veldrik Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 my first attempt, funny part was that I didn't have to cut the legs they fit right on with a little push. second attempt, I realized that the dire wolf was too small so I tried to make it larger. the white clay is just a cheap clay I was using as a filler and then I was going to put green stuff over it to make the fur. But while working on this I decided I want to know just how well thunder wolves are going to do in game before I set out to do so much work. so I did this next Left to right is an Iron Priest, Wolf Lord, regular Thunder Wolf I used Chaos Knights to make these, the heads are khorne berserker heads with the horns shaved off. Until a nice looking thunder wolf model comes out of GW, which it may never, I’m going to be using these for my Thunder Wolf Cavalry. I actually like the idea of riding a huge wolf into battle What size are thise bases? they look like 50mm, they should be mounted on 60mm as the ONLY thunderwolf models to be released is Canis (no cav units, you are expected to buy Canis and convert). If they are on 60mm bases, where did you get such thick ones? The ones I got from GW are all pissy and thin :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2184674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Anonymous Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Oh, and here's a video of some Polish warham using those Circle of Ouroboros wolves as TWC in a conversion: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2184676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veldrik Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Could use a timberwolf model http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_J5YFSlbUXh0/Sjri0vGIurI/AAAAAAAAAG0/XY9tnlb9b-I/s400/madcat%20battletech%20papercraft.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2184681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonMerrick Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Here is a WIP of my first thunderwolf rider. As stated, Canis rides the largest Thunderwolf, and the codex has a much smaller looking Thunderwolf as an illustration in the codex entry. I haven't finished placing the pistol and CC weapon on him yet and I'll pick a head fitting for a Deathwolf Wolf Guard. http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301/thornwolf45/Twc2.jpg http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301/thornwolf45/Twc1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2184804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Looking good size-wise. Anyway, the problem for me with that wolf is that there is only one pose. I don't want 5 wolf riders with identical mounts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2184981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legless_al Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I used Chaos hounds for the head, the Ogres Yetee model for the body and then Tyranid Claws for the hands, a little bit of Green stuff to do the joins and voila!! Using it as a Wolf whos Canis gene has over reacted (fluff wise) but in general it looks like a giant werewolf Unfortunately I dont have photos but these pics should help http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1182440_99060213011_OKYheteeMain_873x627.jpg Those heads arent attached and nether are the hands, I found that I didnt want the hands as mine are having Bp and CC so the nid claws work well and fit nice http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1850196_99080106001_BitzTyranidMonstrousArmsMain_873x627.jpg And finally these hound heads plus GS http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1900130_99120201009_WoCWarhoundsMain_873x627.jpg Hope all this helps, just a different avenue. As far as wysiwyg I didn't have to worry about that apart from the Bolt pistol (was thinking of them throwing rocks?!) What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2186087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon23516 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I used Chaos Knights to make these, the heads are khorne berserker heads with the horns shaved off. Until a nice looking thunder wolf model comes out of GW, which it may never, I’m going to be using these for my Thunder Wolf Cavalry. I actually like the idea of riding a huge wolf into battle I too went the Chaos Knight horse route. Horses + Legs; then green-stuffed a Marine torso etc. on top. $22 for the Knight box and enough left over Marine bitz and I'm done. While they're not riding "wolves" they look/act like cavalry and seem to fit the 13th Company theme my army is based on to begin with. GW sells 2 kinds of plain 60mm bases, yes some are thin and others are the usual thickness. The thicker ones ship with the IG heavy weapon squads but are available separately through GW as well. I hope to post photos of my conversions to this thread in the next day or so. I plan to use Chaos Warhounds as Fen. wolves and plastic Dire Wolves as Cyber-wolves, also fitting my 13th Co. theme. Jon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179343-how-to-convert-thunderwolves/page/5/#findComment-2221790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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