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teeef Battle-Brother

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That is quite simply Bloody Awesome! One critique however: the Blood Angels 2nd & 3rd company heraldries actually correspond somewhat* with the vanilla 2nd and 3rd company heraldries, if the other companies followed suit then it would be the 9th that had a fess, the 4th should be a per fess:

 

* 3rd's bend goes in the opposite direction

 

Also personally I'd use the winged sword for 7th or more likely 8th company.

This site on heraldry is where we got the Fesse as fourth. We chose the version of that site as it also shows the bend for the third exactly as the BA third has it. Of course I am in no way an expert so I am not arguing the point. The par fess would work too and that is an easy change. I'll have to do more research.

 

We decided on a sword

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I was thinking this. I realize it is fan art and not "Chapter Approved" and all. :) But I think it will serve me till the official release...

 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4521163645_0203cff4af_o.gif

 

The Bar Fesse for the 4th based on heraldry established by the 2nd and 3rd Co. designs. The sword for justice held by the hand of Sanguinious. The Chalice Icon in the halo at the top center is a standard BA motif and not specific to the 4th. Someone with more details on the history might make a better suggestion. I used the four blood drop jewels to reinforce the 4th and Nine Battle Honors are place holders

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Dude that is awesome, I was thinking something just like that except with either a gauntleted hand or a claw similar to the 2nd company.

By what program did you use for the banner?

I used Adobe Creative Suite 3.0. I drew it in illustrator then exported it into Photoshop and tweaked the ripples by playing with highlighting and shading. If you look closely you will notice there are no actual distortions in the lines just bright and dark to give it the illusion.

 

I was originally thinking of just straight-up using the claw holding the Chalice from the 2nd Banner but the angle needed to get a sword of decent length made me think a hand coming out of the wing would work better. Also the fluff of Sanguinius giving the blade encarmine to Leonatos seemed to be the most fleshed out 4th Company lore. Having a bare hand makes it more evocative of a personal connection to the primarch giving something so precious. I really like the way the story spins out with the loss of the artifact and the quest for redemption. Also how Leonatos ends up recovering the blade but having to hand the honor of returning it to a brother marine while he faces his doom. So from the hand of the Primarch to the hand of Leonatos to the hand of...

 

As promised, some green options. Again even though I like the 4th and the green blood drop the green in the Banner does not give me the Blood Angel feeling.

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Also, for the Bloodquest fans (I never read them) didn't Leonatos retreive the Blade Encarmine, though he himself did not return with it? So the bloody sword also can symbolize the return of the blade and the return of honor. Just some thoughts.

 

SPOILERS FOR BLOODQUEST: just a precaution.

 

I haven't read them all, but I read the beginning and most of the end. Leonatos recovers the sword, but gets possessed by a powerful daemon of Tzeentch in the process. His surviving companions escape to return the sword. They then go back to find him only to find him possessed and heading what is essentially a vanguard for the Black Crusade. In the meantime, Leonatos is able to gain control of his body again for extremely short periods which allow him to foil the plans of the daemon while atleast one of his friends escapes back to Baal after leading a huge revolt onboard the chaos ship.

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Actually, that second one looks pretty decent, although gives it more of a DA feel in my opinion. Third is the best. but here's my suggestion. The border of the banner's photo, try that in green and or the word "Blood Angels" while keeping the rest as the third banner you have up.

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Maximvs Posted Today, 08:48 AM

And the four blood drops of the banner in green?

The blood drops green occured to me but the 4th is one green blood drop so I will work on a version that features a single green blood drop.

 

The key issue that I am focusing on is not, what I want, but as if GW commissioned me to make a 4th

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i love that idea for the 4th flag...

ive been looking in the new codex pg.68...

i noticed at the bottom of the 3rd company flag there are (3) THREE white blood drops, so the idea of (4) FOUR green blood drops, sound like the correct way of doing it, but thats only going by the previous flags etc...

My idea (minor changes)

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Ahttp://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4523648237_5b2fe55273_o.gif Bhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4523648175_463906d84b_o.gif Chttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4521163645_0203cff4af_o.gif

 

I am still liking C. B is OK and I don't care for A. Obviously we will all paint whatever we like. But I am moving on for now and will see if I can find a bit more info on possible Battle Honors, etc. Then I will tighten up my final for the fourth and then to begin work on the 8th.

 

Later in the year I will see if I can add something for the 6th, 7th, 9th and 10th.

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i love that idea for the 4th flag...

 

ive been looking in the new codex pg.68...

 

i noticed at the bottom of the 3rd company flag there are (3) THREE white blood drops, so the idea of (4) FOUR green blood drops, sound like the correct way of doing it, but thats only going by the previous flags etc...

That works too.
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I think B. is quite good, because it has the company green blood drop but in a more subtle way than A. I think i would choose, B then C and A last.

 

edit: also like to add i don't really like the idea of 4 blood drop's as then if you going down that route, 8th company would have to have 8 green drop's. keeping it to a single drop is better as then when its comes to the 8th they can have there standard double green drop if that makes sense?

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teeef Battle-Brother

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If you have the old angels of death codex the one with the dark and blood angles in it. It has a list of all the banners
I do have it and I am not finding the Company Banner for "all" the anything.

 

What page are you looking at?

 

P. 50-51 has Sgt. Banners of the 3rd Co. 4th Tac and 2nd Co. 9th Dev Squads, Squad Leader Banner of the 3rd Co. Tac. 4th Squad

P. 52 has the same 2nd Co. 9th Dev Squads, Squad Leader Banner of the 3rd Co. Tac. 4th Squad

P. 53 2nd Co., Chapter Banner, 3rd Co. Chaplain, and Vet. Sgt. 1st Co.

p. 54 has Tycho's Captain Banner and two unidentified* Captain Banners (one of which looks like the 2nd Company's Banner), and the 1st and 2nd Squads of the 1st Co. Sgt. Banners.

p. 55 Has the Death Company Chaplain banner.

p. 56 has Lexicanium, Codicer and Epistolary banners

p. 59 has Furioso Number 2's Banner

 

In the illustrations there is another Chaplain Banner but it is not clear to which company he is attached.

 

*In the 1998 edition codex the unidentified banner from page 54 (the one that doesn't look like the 2nd Co. Captain) is attributed to a "Lord" on page 13. This banner appears again as an unidentified Captains Banner on page 14. The "Lord" model with banner appears on the inside cover where you can se a single white blood drop on his shoulder. And finally on the inside back is either a Captain or a Lord up by the Thunderhawk with a banner that does not match any of the others in the Codex. It is black with gold (yellow) trim and has a wing and some gold shape (too small to tell) that has a red blood drop on it.

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Bhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4523648175_463906d84b_o.gif

This one's my favorite.

 

I was noticing today that there are quite a few banners to choose from on the cover, though they're all distant and vague. One could take one of those and add whatever details they wanted to clarify it and spruce it up.

 

 

Also, is it just me, or do the wings on those first edition banners kind of look like the stylized version of the symbol in the new codex? Maybe it's a bit of a throwback. And people were complaining it looks too Ultramarines...

 

 

 

(Psst. Hey, teeef. Those banners look good... don't suppose you'd do commissions for other chapters?)

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Another vote for Banner B.

 

I also don't think the Sword is too Dark Angel-y for the Blood Angels since it was Sanguinius' chosen weapon after all and is displayed in some Chapter Banners. Additionally a lot of BA ships incorporate a sword in their name such as "Angel's Sword" in Space Hulk and "Blade of Vengeance" being the Battle Barge of 2nd Company. In fact I think it represents the Blood Angels very well.

 

But anyways awesome work man! :)

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