madscuzzy Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Yeah I have been building a trench table. Have to thank a number of friends for their contributions. As space is a constraint, building upwards has always been my plan. Another major factor is how to store the trench table. As we all know, a 6x4 with 'trench' terrain on the top is NOT a trench. A trench requires dug in sections, and therein lies the problem: how to store? Another thing I was looking at was to design it as being modular, similar to the GW Realms of Battleboard. We sat down and planned the design out (which I will show later), but we needed somewhere to house it somehow. I decided to build upwards, making a full 'table' platform (I don't have a table. I use a large board sitting on to of shelves to maximize space), where the trench would sit, and have a frame around it, to house my other boards on top where necessary. We pretty much sat down one sat and built up the table frame. It is foldable to allow access to the trench. http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_0988.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_0989.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_0990.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_0991.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_0994.jpg Im not in these photos...:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 So..it looks good...but..now that you have that green layer..how do you plan on digging said trench? I would understand if you started with the border thing, then plastered it all..but..now I'm lost :o show me!! :P Nice table though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 That is just the frame. The green layer is an old board that sits on top of it. I'll get pics on how it sits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I shall be following this project with interest, considering I used to make papier mache (sp?) "trench systems" with my stepdad for 1/72 scale minis. This looks promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosty Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I shall be following this project with interest, considering I used to make papier mache (sp?) "trench systems" with my stepdad for 1/72 scale minis. This looks promising. Seconded, I shall be watching this great anticipation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 I tend to avoid stuff like mache unless I can make sure I can get it really solid. Terrain, like minis, tend to get banged up a bit over time... and I prefer my terrain to last, so I avoid more fragile materials like styrofoam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 As mentioned... we sat down one sat to plan out the layout of the 6 tiles, to make it as modular as possible. We planned to use FW trench for the detailing... cuz well... it is pretty. We ordered about 11 sets + attachments in total (some have yet to arrive), so you can do the math...:P http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1303.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1304.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1304.jpg Using this we can at current, build 2x 6' long trenches or 3x 4' wide trenches. We may add on more in the future. http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1932.jpg As the trench pieces are fairly large, we decided to build each piece using a wooden frame, to allow it to take more shock, and be overall more stable than a large thick piece of foam... Each wall piece is made of about a 2" high wooden board...:) http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1311.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1315.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1324.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1327.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1335.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1336.jpg More to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 They are pretty...so much resin *resists drooling* I'm really liking the idea of this project, the modularity idea is cool too, even just a few combinations would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Nice table so far :P , to bad we dont have the space for it at home :) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 Which is why it sits in a frame. There are pre-made cool gaming tables out there... with drawers and hidden gaming areas. It really does help in saving space. i did mine foldable for reasons of transportations and storage if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCrute Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 There you are kids, are you watching? This is what a real hobbyist looks like. Applause, approbation and praise brother! I will have to show my gaming pal this thread and see if he can build one just like yours (I am far too busy myself :yes: ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenmichi Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 This is going to be one of the most beautiful tables I've seen. I know this because your attention to detail seems very, very focused. Can't wait to see more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Very nice work, this is going to look great when it's finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraHawk Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I build a table like that every day...in my dreams, this table is gonna look awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskie Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I've been working on modular trench terrain too and I've seen a table made with those Forgeworld bits at Astro Vancouver about two years ago Jason "Doc" Dyer built it. His was in three pieces but wasn't modular, I'm doing 12 inch tiles which many people thought was crazy but will work and stores decently. I also scoured the web for trench terrain making advice. Sydney Roundwood or whatever his handle is, built an amazing table for Through the Mud and the Blood but I'm doing things my own way... You can poke around my blog as I've been documenting it pretty good over there. Maybe start here. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Indeed, very pretty resin layout. I'm glad you're taking so much planning into this project, it'll really make it work. All the work, the wood for each foam set, the modularity, is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 Thanx for the replies so far...;) Next update! The pieces were dremelled... erm... cut up with the dremel rotary tool. Pretty much precision cutting as the wall section details are seperated by fine details. FW sells the pieces in about 6" long strips and there are times when you need 1", 2", 3", 4, and 5" pieces. Ironically, when FW made it, they did it in singles... and reattached them later. You can find the seam lines if you know what to look out for...;) http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1346.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1347.jpg With the walls done up it was filled up with foam. I pretty much used whatever foam I could find at home. http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1388.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1389.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1355.jpg The boards were weighed down with weights. Good to see the table being able to take all that weight too...:) http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1357.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1358.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1362.jpg As you can see, I got impatient and started to put some walls in for one of the pieces. Sadly, like most FW castings, nothing is what they seem, so 2" tall trenches aren't always... accurately 2"... lots of filling... You can see the how thick the walls are...:) http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1403.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1406.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1409.jpg Some of the edges are filled up to make it look smoother http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1416.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Looks pretty impressive. This makes me want to build my own table. Due to smallness of apartment, I will resist. Looking forward to seeing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Very very nice. I'll keep looking at this! - Natanael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Looking great and I agree with an above poster: these kind of projects make you feel much more of a hobbiest ;) @madscuzzy That looks like a HEAVY table... how much would you say each of the 6 modules is? The "issue" I have with FW trenches is that they seem a bit narrow... how do you fit a dreadnought there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turelhim vampire Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Looking great and I agree with an above poster: these kind of projects make you feel much more of a hobbiest :) @madscuzzy That looks like a HEAVY table... how much would you say each of the 6 modules is? The "issue" I have with FW trenches is that they seem a bit narrow... how do you fit a dreadnought there? Dreadnoughts do not cower in trenches - they stride forth through hails of enemy fire to bring destruction upon the foes of the Imperium! Nice work madscuzzy - that looks... EXPENSIVE! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 And don't dreadnoughts assault the enemy trenches, blasting away with heavy flamers torching the corpses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turelhim vampire Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 And don't dreadnoughts assault the enemy trenches, blasting away with heavy flamers torching the corpses? ;) Yes they do. FROM ABOVE! :lol: Towering over their enemies as an inspiration to their fellow marines, firing volleys from their assault cannons and heavy flamers, turning their cowering foes into char-grilled red paste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Wow. Can there be words other than "wow" said here? I don't think there can be. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted August 25, 2010 Author Share Posted August 25, 2010 In this update, I added the walls to the trench. Aligning them was quite bad and many a times parts had to be removed and replaced just to fit. http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1490.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1496.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1498.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1503.jpg And for scaling purposes... http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1509.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1525.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1516.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1520.jpg The fully walled terrain. We can start seeing how it looks like atm... http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1554.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1557.jpg Once the walls were done, we mixed up a batch of PVA glue, sand colour to texture the surface. As this is a large scale project, we opted to go for a harder, stronger surface than the traditional apply-glue-then-flock method. There are some black areas. This is because we filled up the gaps with putty and textured paint to make the trench 'seamless' (figured since the parts were seamless in sixes, why not all the way?) http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1601.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1615.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1616.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1798.jpg http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/trench/IMG_1800.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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