Purifiers/And their mysteryNemesis.

[The Normish]

So, are we going for a Black Templar approach to purity here, or an Ultramarines type approach? Zealous search for purity versus smug possession of it? I feel that making the Purifiers the way we're leaning to sort of distracts from their goody-two-shoes veneer, where they civilize worlds into Macragge 2.0, like someone said earlier, and then their Nemeses come and obliterate it.

 

Oh, and Drichar Deis, the book/movie is "The Da Vinci Code". But Dan Brown is an idiot, despite his interesting plots.

[Shinzaren]

I would vote more towards the Ultramarines. Smug possession of their purity, but at the same time trying convert new worlds and places. They are holier-than-thou, but they are generally doing good works.

[Ecritter]

I would vote more towards the Ultramarines. Smug possession of their purity, but at the same time trying convert new worlds and places. They are holier-than-thou, but they are generally doing good works.

 

ditto

[Ecritter]

How about the Sons of Ra

 

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c162/ecritter/Space%20Marines/sonsofra.png

 

vs. the Minions of Set

 

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c162/ecritter/Space%20Marines/minionsofset.png

 

and YES I love pics.

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

Another Ultramarine-esque vote. I still think IF geneseed, though.

[The Normish]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c162/ecritter/Space%20Marines/sonsofra.png

Ha, Age of Mythology... I love that game.

 

Ultramarinesque with Imperial Fists geneseed? Could work, Chapter Master Ignis Domus.

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

More Thoughts:

23rd founding makes them not too new or old

23rd founding was because of the recent black crusade

Crusade Chapter now. Sort of makes sense with the point and shoot method for the hulk

[Shinzaren]

In regards to their IF geneseed being less pure, do we have an answer for that yet? My idea is that they recognized that their two missing organs weren't to the highest standard of purity so they discarded them altogether. It's not the most accurate, but to the Purifiers, it would make sense. They would tell themselves this neat little lie in order to preserve their purity ideals. Thoughts?

[The Normish]

In regards to their IF geneseed being less pure, do we have an answer for that yet? My idea is that they recognized that their two missing organs weren't to the highest standard of purity so they discarded them altogether. It's not the most accurate, but to the Purifiers, it would make sense. They would tell themselves this neat little lie in order to preserve their purity ideals. Thoughts?

Would make sense, perhaps they could have some sort of hidden database only the Apothecaries are allowed to see (for medical reasons of some sort)? I also get the idea that Apothecaries are important, but we can see on that later.

 

So, do we agree on IF gene-seed with an UM attitude?

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

More thoughts:

-high chaplain and apothecary count for mental/physical purity

-each planet they provide help to gives them a replacement number of people for twice the number of lost marines

-anyone that isn't deemed a good recruit joins either the serfs or the Space Hulk Defence Force(sort of an elite PDF/guard thing. Think all veteran and ST squads.)

 

I like Shinzaren's knowing lie idea. It adds a 40k "nothing is truly pure" element to it.

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

Even more:

If we get enough people, we could assign each person a section or two, have them work on it until a set date, compare them together, comment on them, re-edit them, and make them fit together. This would need to be worked on and thought about in more detail, but I think it might be usable.

[Ecritter]

I say use UM geneseeed (just to get under Shinzaren's nerves). :)

[Ace Debonair]

As per request, I've read through all the stuff you've got so far. :D

 

In regards to their IF geneseed being less pure, do we have an answer for that yet? My idea is that they recognized that their two missing organs weren't to the highest standard of purity so they discarded them altogether. It's not the most accurate, but to the Purifiers, it would make sense. They would tell themselves this neat little lie in order to preserve their purity ideals. Thoughts?

Well, if my Red Lords can do it with Raven Guard geneseed, I don't see what's stopping you from doing it with Imperial Fist successors. ;)

 

According to the Red Lords, their geneseed is the best geneseed, because it roots out those not pure enough to survive the implantation. :P

It's entirely plausible that you could tread a similar road with these guys.

 

Having read everything in this thread, I'd drop the space hulk, honestly. If the chapter's based on it, it's a heck of a large risk, and will take a lot of explaining. If the chapter's not based on the hulk, then what makes it so important? :P

 

-anyone that isn't deemed a good recruit joins either the serfs or the Space Hulk Defence Force(sort of an elite PDF/guard thing. Think all veteran and ST squads.)

And I'd especially drop this idea. Seperation of powers, right? ;)

 

Also, there's a lot of chapters doing the rounds at the minute that are big on purity - so you'll need a personality twist that makes your lads noticeably different.

For instance, the Sons of Pyron are big on fire (Ok, so Ecritter's already on your team, and so you probably already know that), and the Red Lords are rather dislikably arrogant, (although they've been out of the loop for the last few weeks. :lol: )

 

Lastly, I'm sorry to say I'm not sure about the colour scheme.

The Purifiers look like Luna Wolves with black kneepads. That's not a criticism, since the Luna Wolves were the coolest looking legion, but it wouldn't hurt the Purifiers to stand out a little more. ^_^

[Ecritter]

I say a more golden color scheme .... or silver kinda knightly.

[Shinzaren]

I'm not against the whole Space Hulk idea, I just reiterate my earlier suggestion. Cut away the useless bits, pare it down to a manageable size, and slap some engines on it. IF gene-seed is good. I'll update the main post.

 

As far as colors go. I know Ace has a coloring fetish, so perhaps he could be convinced to come up with a few schemes for us? ;) Gold or silver would be good, but I personally don't mind the white at all.

[Ace Debonair]

I say a more golden color scheme .... or silver kinda knightly.

And that's all I need to start painting. It doesn't take much, huh? ;)

 

EDIT: cuttting down on picture count by eliminating the none-needed ones.

 

Burnished Gold, Chainmail, and Brazen Brass respectively.

These randomly generated ideas can be easily and summarily dismissed if they don't suit, of course. I'm just throwing suggestions out there. :)

 

As far as colors go. I know Ace has a coloring fetish, so perhaps he could be convinced to come up with a few schemes for us? Gold or silver would be good, but I personally don't mind the white at all.

I was already painting when you posted that. :D

I'm just generous with my inspirations, I guess.

[Ecritter]

I was more thinking like these two.

You know, a boring goody 2 shoes color scheme.

Or perhaps a mix of the two.

[Shinzaren]

I recommend combining Ace's first idea with Ecritter's second. Add the red trim to the shoulders, and make the eagle bright white? I dunno, I feel like I'm standing on the ground while Titans duel with paintbrushes, all the while shouting, "No! Use that color!"

 

You guys work it out ;)

[Ecritter]

I recommend combining Ace's first idea with Ecritter's second. Add the red trim to the shoulders, and make the eagle bright white? I dunno, I feel like I'm standing on the ground while Titans duel with paintbrushes, all the while shouting, "No! Use that color!"

 

You guys work it out ;)

 

Kinda like the 3rd I did then?

 

How about this for the baddies?

 

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c162/ecritter/Space%20Marines/testchaos.png

[Shinzaren]

Kinda like the 3rd I did then?

 

How about this for the baddies?

 

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c162/ecritter/Space%20Marines/testchaos.png

Where do you even find half these pics? I dunno what we're going for in regards to the Nemesis chapter. We're trying to nail down all the details on the Purifiers first haha ;)

[Ecritter]

Some I find, most I make.

[Ace Debonair]

I recommend combining Ace's first idea with Ecritter's second. Add the red trim to the shoulders, and make the eagle bright white? I dunno, I feel like I'm standing on the ground while Titans duel with paintbrushes, all the while shouting, "No! Use that color!"

I'm just gonna throw that idea out there then. :D

 

EDIT: Look further down for the thrown out idea.

 

Ecritter's silver/gold combo is also pretty neat. ^_^

[Ecritter]

I don't like the new painter, but I see you use it so I made a version of my 3rd using it ... I don't like the darker color now. Perhaps a compromise.

Or we can go with yours, I just don't like the belt.

[Ace Debonair]

Or we can go with yours, I just don't like the belt.

 

OTHER EDIT: Keeping pic count down.

 

My bad, I forgot to change the belt. ^_^

Any better?

EDIT: Now with more gold, especially around the backpack.

[Ecritter]

I'd prefer a white belt, but that is just as good. I give it my vote.

 

One small change, the small parts between the backpack and the exhausts. Brown?

 

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Okay now that thats over, on with the Pures.

 

They need character of some sort ... or they will be just UMs.

 

How does their purity drive them, how do they achieve purity (Sons of Pyron burn the impure), stuff like that. Basically we need a theme to work around.

 

My Sons theme ... Neo-Nazi Spartans with a fire fetish.

 

We need something like that to work from.