Plague Angel Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hello, brothers! Some of my friends have been bitten by the Apocalypse bug, and they're asking me to join them. Now, I'm generally more fond of smaller games, and every Apocalypse game I've seen just looks frustrating. My personal opinion is that, at those point values, everything gets so big and huge that armies lose their flavor and everything looks the same. On the other hand, these are my friends asking me and we've always supported each others' habits before. So I'm thinking, I will probably ask for a super-heavy tank for Xmas. Then if I get it, I can bring something to the table in their games, maybe play around with the idea of Spearhead, and if nothing else comes of it I'll at least have a great model. I'm just wondering which one to get, that would feel the most Sanguine. I'm thinking that the Stormlord kind of reminds me of the same philosophy behind things like the Baal Pred, i.e. get in fast and pound it with lots of shots, in comparison to other tanks that sit back and fire. The Banehammer is neat too though, and people are telling me I should consider the Shadowsword for its Str D weapon. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm not familiar with any of the super heavies, but I got the Line Breaker squad... which is just 3 vindicators... something I can use in regular games as well. ...those formations have some great ideas for spending money hah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm not familiar with any of the super heavies Well a good number have their stats right on GW's site, so I think it's okay to say: the one I'm considering has a STR6 AP3 Heavy 15 mega-bolter that can fire twice in a turn if the tank didn't move. In addition to other lascannons/heavy bolters/etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchbox Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 The stormlord sounds good for bloodangels. Alright it's not the most powerful weapon in the arsenal but fluff wise it fits. And it's good fun as a transport too. I used the shadowsword when I bought mine mainly because I knew I would be up against titans. If your not though then the stormlord will be just fine agains large squads or even heavy Inf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 Not many Titans in my local meta, no. I thought the Strength D would be a no-brainer, but the more I thought about it, with no Titans around it feels like it'd be a waste of the firepower shooting it at heavy infantry or other tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptphoenixck Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Go with the stormlord if thats what you want..... just dont move and fire it at marines, see how your opponent reacts when you pick up 30 dice! So far as transport or anything goes, they're a bit to slow for my geneseed to cope with but usefull if youve a hammer squad you definately want to get into the thick of things. With Super Heavies my rule of thum is go with what you think the coolest tank is. That way you'll enjoy your apocolypse games more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 Well I think all 3 I mentioned are awesome. I think the Banehammer's special rule, with its gun creating a shockwave zone, is real neato. It's not that I think the Stormlord is cooler, it just seems to kinda "fit" more, you know? But maybe it has a flaw I'm not seeing. This isn't really my area of expertise, after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Another thing to consider is you could make your Super Heavy like an individual. Dont make it a stormlord make it 'Baal's Hammer' armed with an Archeo-Tech Assault cannon or something. You know have some fun with it. Tweak the rules around alittle bit just try and stay alittle bit below what a stormlord could manage on an average turn or say make it Identical to a storm lord just with different reasoning! Apocalypse is supposed to be about fun stuff like that. Building your own cool rules for giant death machines. So roll with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm not terribly creative with rules. My first idea is making it Fast, like a Baal-pattern engine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurb Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4nzgPbHlNo4/TIhfPL6veFI/AAAAAAAAJEM/Y6qiOXsqF90/s1600/fellblade-ba-001.jpg http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/09/40k...-fellblade.html Shake with ice and rum and enjoy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou666 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 holy..... schmitt? thats awesome! :P i want one now :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Where are the rules and/or model for the stormlord? thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhx711 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Was gonna post about the BA superheavy on BoLS but Kurb beat me too it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurb Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Was gonna post about the BA superheavy on BoLS but Kurb beat me too it. Wonder if we can deepstrike that... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Where are the rules and/or model for the stormlord? thanks! Here's the model, no rules sorry :P http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1860243 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israfel Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I would go with a baneblade as it is the best all rounder super heavy tank. It fires a lot big templates which is very nice IMHO. Also you could paint it red and use it as a "fellblade", which is the baneblade variant used by the astartes legions pre-heresy. It is said that some of the chapters still possess such relics. I find it very probable that we have a few of these big guns in the armories of Baal. They made a data sheet for fellblades on Bols, it is basically the same rules and options as a baneblade but its 100 pts more expensive and in BS4 since it is operated by marines :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhx711 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Was gonna post about the BA superheavy on BoLS but Kurb beat me too it. Wonder if we can deepstrike that... :) We should totallt be able to and whatever it lands on (excepting a titan or anther superheavy) should be destroyed ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2585958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Paen Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Im thinking of using a superheavy myself. If your not into converting abig project like the one from BoLS, then I'd suggest the Stormlord for its transport/assault capability. It'd look cool with two marines on the deck firing hvy weapons, while 40 assault marines (minus jump packs) scream out of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2586010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Go with what looks best to you:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2586104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 If you have to choose between the GW produced super heavies than I'd go for the Hellhammer, it may not have the range of the Baneblade but with TLOS these days theres a lot of cover on Apoc tables anymore. Negating those saves with a S10 AP 1 boom stick is always a good thing. But if you have the option I would see if I could just get some cash or visa gift cards to spend on supplies for a scratch built thunder hawk. That would be particularly Blood Angels. I made one up a few years ago and I love the thing in game. Nothing funnier than watching you opponent send most of their army's worth of fire power into something and have it still be there the following turn. If you're interested I can give you all the info on how I built mine as well as pics. -Samirus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2586206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Where are the rules and/or model for the stormlord? thanks! Here's the model, no rules sorry ^_^ http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1860243 Cool thanks, but there is really no rules for this thing anyway? ...not in an Apoc book or even FW-Imperial Armour perhaps? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2586211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Where are the rules and/or model for the stormlord? thanks! Here's the model, no rules sorry ^_^ http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1860243 Cool thanks, but there is really no rules for this thing anyway? ...not in an Apoc book or even FW-Imperial Armour perhaps? I believe the Stormlord is in the ImpArm dealing with the Imperial Guard, #1 as I recall, though I don't have my copy with me at work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2586217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 The rules for the Stormlord are up on the GW website in the Datasheets section of the Apocalypse articles. -Samirus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2586223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Dan'l Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 And don't forget that Dreadnoughts equal 10 models of Transport Capacity. And that the SH's count as Open Topped for dismounting. There's very little as amusing as watching someones face when a DC Furioso or two hop out of the back. ;) Ahhhh, Apocalypse. Where silly is an art form. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2586248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 stormlord with 30 DC+Lemartes+Sanguinor in it ;) ....OH! and a liby to give SoS just for giggles :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216767-picking-a-super-heavy/#findComment-2586260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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