calgar101 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 The Scions of Vengeance are a fleet based crusading chapter based in the Ultima Segmentum. They recruit from a number of worlds and maintain a presence on only a few of those (usually just a small chapter keep). They are from the 17th founding and are sons of the Great Khan. Any more info is needed let me know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Also to keep note of which threads are for the campaign, could we put 'Liber [sECTOR]: [Thread topic]' for thread titles? Easier to keep track that way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I will be working on the completed list as soon as I have finished this post, and then I will move onto the next stage :) Â You missed my chapter, I already submitted my Eagle Claws before the deadline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilettoblade Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 The 25th Founding Hellbenders would be honored to defend the Imperium in either Pacificus or Tempestus, as the homeworld is situated just on the Pacificus side of that border, rimward of the Sabbat Worlds. This sounds like fun, and would push me to finally go back to work on cleaning up my IA.  Just wanted to point to this, as I didn't see my boys in the latest list. Also, as their fluff isn't 100% nailed down yet, I would be willing to back the founding up by a millennium, and stretch my history some to accommodate, if need be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I'm still debating whether I want to join this project, the last set of group projects I have been in have been rather disappointing. Usually it starts with a whole bunch of people signing up, and very few following through* or the project fizzles out.**  * = DIY Swap ** = Astartes Vocates, Draconis etc   Edit: There was a deadline? Nevermind then. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Heru, the "Sign Up" deadline is only for freebies. If you wish to join, you still can and I am quite happy to let you on the freebie seeing as we haven't started the next stage. The deadline was more for us to get it moving and to ensure that later people have to bring something to the party :D Â You never checked out the Colloborative Projects for the Imperial Castellans and the Dark Sons :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 You never checked out the Colloborative Projects for the Imperial Castellans and the Dark Sons :D I did check out the Dark Sons one, but I didn't participate after the Warbringers one before that fizzled out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Mission Statement Alpha "To create an article of Imprint size that outlines a series of campaigns, containing only chapters created by users of the B&C, which are linked through a single story." Â Expanded Brief This article, whilst it will focus heavily on the story and background of those involved, will also contain Scenario Rules for the most pivotal of battles, images (both drawings and models) and house-rule for representing special characters and units. This will hopefully form the cornerstone for a number of spin-off articles of a similar ilk that expand upon the information within this article. Â Detail Plan Stage 1: Concept - Brainstorming of the overall storyline that ties all of these stories together. This will not delve into the details within each campaign, but the overall mission statements of each. Who fought, who won, where did they fight etc. Stage 2: Detailing - Focussing on each individual section in turn, we outline the sections with more facts. This will gives us the frame shell to work within. By the end of this stage, we need to have a series of sentences that could be expanded into full articles. Stage 3: Allocation - Each member can then sign themselves up for a section of the campaign. We will originally operate a one member one story policy. However, if we need to double up we can and chapters can participate in two parts of the article. Stage 4: Construction - The hard work starts here. Either through small groups of writers or a single person, we expand the framework from Stage 2 into full articles, including chapters and characters. By the end of this stage we will almost have a complete background for our campaigns. Stage 5: Proofing - All the articles are collected and gone over by the group. There might be changes in storyline if we feel something is better. By the end of this stage we will have finished articles. Stage 6: Additional - Now we move into something unfamiliar to us all, rules, pictures etc. This will be detailed down at this stage. Stage 7: Publication - Pat ourselves on the back and stick a fork in us; we're done! Also throughout this process, we might run small competitions like "Design your own character" which would involve both fluff and rules and these might alter the construction stage (like introducing a Crusade Leader etc). Also, people might be asked to write a brief on their chapter to be included. Â Warning: People who have signed up now and then fail to participate risk their chapter being dropped or being killed and destroyed (well, the force sent anyway). Those who turn up late can place their chapter in if they work hard enough. Â Remember: Sacrifices will have to be made - we can't all be the leaders and we can't all win :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Looks good ferrata, right...time to get the 'ol brain working properly again Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Do you mind if I start artwork early? I will need alot of time to get a headstart. I will start with a couple of character pics around the stage 4 mark. Photoshopping miniatures should be an easier bit so Ill leave them to 6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 You can start Stage 6 phases early if you wish, however, there will be a lack of artistic suggestions at this time :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 You can start Stage 6 phases early if you wish, however, there will be a lack of artistic suggestions at this time :D Ill probably just do a couple of tests while I help us get the framework down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I have a question, how much partiicpation is required? I'm willing to volunteer my own chapter but I'm just wondering just how exactly is required in this project in the crestion? Â For example, I can do some fluff, but I'm not going to be able to help with rules or art at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I don't think I can really quantify "Acceptable Participation" bar when it comes to the end and we are going through the article and somebody goes "Who is this Gree and his Eagle Claws?" then you've probably haven't helped enough. So a couple of posts in each section should be adequate....hey, I did quantify it :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Telanicus: Excellent! Always good to have more Obscurians. I assume they split from the legion before the 11th Founding? Â Porridge Meister: Are they fleet-based, or do you not have a specified location? Â Ferrata: So we should attempt to overrun the Liber? ;) :D Â More seriously, it looks like we only have six missing, so we should be able to get started on the next phase. We don't want the creative energies running out while waiting. Â Madwolf: That sounds like an excellent idea, especially for a linked campaign. Remember that. :tu: Â Felwether: I apologise, I was doing it rather quickly and couldn't write read my handwriting. Hopefully this won't traumatise you forever. Â Firenze: Should be good, and will hopefully provide less clutter and lost threads. Â Heru Talon: The deadline is for slackers. ;) If you can provide hard labor, then you're good. Â Ferrata: You might want to change the mission statement, as I don't think we're linking all the campaigns. Only the one(s) in each individual segmentum. I'm guessing, based on the use of 'Imprint-size', that this might go in the Legio Imprint? Also, what do you mean by two parts of the article? Two parts of the overall article, or two parts of one segmentum's article? The penalty seems good. Â Firenze: The earlier, the better, though as Ferrata said, it won't be put in until later. Still, if you finish early, that means we have more time to make more artwork. Â Gree: I'd say that helping with fluff, but not art or rules is fine, as those are more of a secondary concern. Overall, I'd say that you should be moderately active, unless something comes up, such as a wedding, a birth, or a death, but not the death of your uncle's wife's cousin's mother's sister's stepmother's aunt twice removed's great great great great uncle's daughter died. By moderately active, I'd say a well thought out post every three days? That will probably change, but it's an estimate. Â EDIT: And of course Ferrata answers your question while I'm going through everything. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaren Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I would suggest that as a basic concept, we focus on the idea of a Renegade warband consisting of one or more of our Liber Traitorous entrants. If it starts in one Segmentum, they could be caught and then flee, dragging the crusade across multiple Segmentums. It gives us a big enough threat, and allows a lot of the entrants to participate. As the Warband flees through Imperial space, they gather followers and enemies, and would throw up cults and roadblocks to distract their pursuers. That way the justification of all the involved chapters would make sense, since Chapters would need to be used for both pursuit and for pacifying rebel worlds and other forces that flock to the Chaos banner. Plus, it would let hidden cults and leaders who are biding their time have a reason to rise up. They would see the Warband as a great distraction to accomplish their own ends, starting a domino effect across the effected areas. Not to mention that as a Renegade Warband, we could fully discuss and plan the enemy force, as it is in Power Armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I understand the view on not having a subforum for this, but perhaps a set of "stickies" at the top of the Forum instead so that it's easy to find the various topics? Â And on the subject of winning or losing - I honestly don't care if the 'Reavers win or lose :tu: The only stipulation I have is that whom ever they fight are gonna get both barrels either way! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I would suggest that as a basic concept, we focus on the idea of a Renegade warband consisting of one or more of our Liber Traitorous entrants. If it starts in one Segmentum, they could be caught and then flee, dragging the crusade across multiple Segmentums. It gives us a big enough threat, and allows a lot of the entrants to participate. As the Warband flees through Imperial space, they gather followers and enemies, and would throw up cults and roadblocks to distract their pursuers. That way the justification of all the involved chapters would make sense, since Chapters would need to be used for both pursuit and for pacifying rebel worlds and other forces that flock to the Chaos banner. Plus, it would let hidden cults and leaders who are biding their time have a reason to rise up. They would see the Warband as a great distraction to accomplish their own ends, starting a domino effect across the effected areas. Not to mention that as a Renegade Warband, we could fully discuss and plan the enemy force, as it is in Power Armor. Â Oooh! Oooh! Me likey! :D Â P.s. - I'd prefer to be in Pacificus, but if needs be I'm not that fussed where I end up (as it were) :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Aquilanus: Or if not a set of stickied threads, maybe an index? Â Shinzaren: That sounds like a good idea. Maybe have it start in Ultima, where it is led by the Daemon Prince who has been building up his forces, using Madwolf's idea. That means we can break up the Ultima swarm into smaller groups who are active in various reincarnations of the Daemon Prince? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Ferrata: So we should attempt to overrun the Liber? msn-wink.gif biggrin.gif More seriously, it looks like we only have six missing, so we should be able to get started on the next phase. We don't want the creative energies running out while waiting. For the mean time, I see this focussed in one thread. However, if this does develop into more threads then Bro-T has offered to create a sub-forum. I will take this offer up when it is needed and not before, otherwise we might end up with an empty sub-forum. Plus, I want you guys still to be out there in Liber doing the actual DIY thing :D  Ferrata: You might want to change the mission statement, as I don't think we're linking all the campaigns. Only the one(s) in each individual segmentum. I'm guessing, based on the use of 'Imprint-size', that this might go in the Legio Imprint? Also, what do you mean by two parts of the article? Two parts of the overall article, or two parts of one segmentum's article? The penalty seems good. I have a cunning storyline that links them all together. I just need to write it all out (right after I've done some coding). I'm not saying we have to use this storyline, more that we could use it as a base to build upon. By "parts" of the article, which only implies on the grand scheme plan, I mean that a chapter could only be involved in M.35 stage or M.38 stage for example, but not both (due to the high number of chapters).  I'll get writing my story up if you don't mind :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I've been waiting for something like this to do for ages. I have a loooong weekend and a week off coming in the next couple of weeks so I should* have plenty of time to contribute :tu: Â *Barring work calling me, real life stuff and other random stuff that inevitably come up whenever I make such a statement..... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Part the First: Excellent, that's what I was going after. I don't think one thread would be very constructive, as you would get all the segmentums mixed together. Could we get a stickied index thread, with links to the threads for each segmentum? Â Part the Second: Sounds intriguing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Okay, this is slightly rushed as I wanted to get it down whilst it was still in my mind. Â The Legend of the Damned Saint Petrok Chapter 1: The opening campaign follows Lord-Commander Petrok as he carries a torch into the darkness know as the Daeon Abyss, a group of star systems within the Ultima Segmentum that had been pacified during the Great Crusade but lost over the millennia since. Occurred after the twelfth founding, allowing the newly founded chapters participate. This section of the article is all very pro-Imperial against a variety of minor Xenos races and human colonies. This section ends with the death of Petrok but with the crusade victorious and his relics (bones, armour, sword etc) spread throughout the Imperium. His bones were laid to rest on his home planet, his armour in the Fortress of a loyal Astartes chapter, his sword taken by his acolytes to fight a new crusade over in another Segmentum. Â Chapter 2: Mysteriously* over a period of a century (millennia after the original crusade) each of the relics is taken from the place of holding. One is taken as a trophy by the Orks of Snazblud, another captured by the traitors. This bit isn't as detailed at the moment, but this allows great freedom for others to come in with small campaigns to how these relics were lost. Â Chapter 3: In fervour about the loss of such relics, the Imperium strikes out at each of the foe that holds the relics. Like Chapter 2, not much detail here to allow for others. We are now looking quite a bit after Chapter 1, so mid-aged chapters can be used. Â Chapter 4: After reclaiming the relics, the Imperium decides to return them to Petrok's place of death. However, this isn't quite as simple as a number of the systems have been swept aside by a Chaos incursion. After a grinding war, the Imperium manages to take and hold the planet and places all the relics to rest. Little do they know, this is a bad omen. Â Chapter 5: Chaos erupts all throughout the neighbouring systems, heading towards Petrok's planet mindlessly. The Imperium is in a desperate defence and numerous new chapters (26th) are called in for the defence effort. Slowly, they are forced to abandon planets but not before an unusual turn of events that reveals the truth about all these actions. Â *Yes, I have a secret plan to operate here :sick: Â Obviously, Chapters 2 and 3 allow for numerous smaller sections that can be spread out acorss the Imperium and allow for other people's ideas to be used :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sounds good, with only two questions: 1. Is Petrok a mortal or a marine? 2. I can only find two segentums. Is this meant to be an overall campaign or a two Segmentum campaign? Â Alright, so that's the first and so far the only fleshed out option. I'll see if I can put thoughts to words to paper to post and get something up, and other ideas are, of course welcome. Â Also, if there's anyone who's artistically inclined, would they mind making a banner? I'm not exactly the greatest artist, with my greatest work being that 2003 Daemonhunters Veteran bar that pops up in various people's signature. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 After thinking about this I’m afraid I’m going to have to drop out from this. After reflection I’m not sure if I would have time to contribute to this project. I would rather drop out now, than later in the project and mess everyone up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228575-campaign-liber-astartes/page/9/#findComment-2745969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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