Blackadder Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Vents Finally Done After a week of knee surgery convalescence I finally got my groove back and finished the vent slats. Not up to my usual standard but they are in a position that I can readily replace them if I get ambitious. The main gun superstructure should go together quickly now that these labor intense objects are completed. http://i.imgur.com/JcsFVWZ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JcsFVWZl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3414100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I just gave your thread a read-through. Got to say this is inspiring. I've been doing small scale scratch building for a long time, and can really respect your patience and dedication. This project is epic! Don't worry about a plastic Thunderhawk. If they release one, it will be far less detailed. And if that happens to be the model in the background of those photos, its a lot uglier than yours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3414205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 After a week of knee surgery convalescence I finally got my groove back and finished the vent slats. Not up to my usual standard but they are in a position that I can readily replace them if I get ambitious.Cartilage? In any case, after two knee operations (PVNS/Cartilage) I feel your pain Brother Still in awe of this project! I look forward to the day it is complete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3414234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yes, shredded meniscus actually also painful but better now, thanks. Superstructure Continues:If there is a roundabout way to do things leave it to the Blackadder to pursue that course.The superstructure seems a straightforward trapezoidal structure with nothing out of the ordinary to complicate building it until I decided the perpendicular sides should cant in a few degrees at the top and the three armour plates on either side likewise. This adds a taper to the structure's sides much as the columns curve slightly on the Parthenon to give a better illusion of straightness. Were the sides perfectly perpendicular they would appear to flair at the top.I also changed the angle of the rear vent panel because my T'hawk is much longer than the original and therefore can be more streamline...... (? Really, Streamline?)The overall effect is longer, lower and wider than the FW model and even the 3D rendering is slightly blockier.I hope I don't come to regret these departures.........http://i.imgur.com/aDLrvCg.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aDLrvCgl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/d9Ekz6j.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/d9Ekz6jl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3415094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Simple Trunnion Mount for CannonFor those of us with childish bents that have to have moving parts on their models a simple trunnion mount for the main cannon on the T'hawk.Starting with a reinforced 7/16 tube with an 3/8 tube sleeve inserted for strength I bored a 3/16th diameter hole through the exact dead center of the tube to mount the barrel core.http://i.imgur.com/DzsSh0s.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/DzsSh0sl.jpgUsing 2 x 6 mm scrap strips for the trunnion mounts in the superstructure clamped in place with clothes pins overnight gave me a strong base to mount the trunnions.http://i.imgur.com/YXQQDKO.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/YXQQDKOl.jpgWith the barrel mount trunnions in place in the slot I'm ready to seal the forward end of the mount to capture the elevation assembly for a simple and effective cannon mount elevation system.http://i.imgur.com/jfO9HW2.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/jfO9HW2l.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3416304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Green Stuff, Certainly Not! When I make a bad seam as I have just done I feel its important to demonstrate how I remedy the mistake. http://i.imgur.com/FXw7EYx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FXw7EYxl.jpg Now Green Stuff I understand is unreasonable costly and I have never purchased a tube and styrene is readily repairable; first I clean the bad seam so an inlay can be inserted: http://i.imgur.com/rusfoJ5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/rusfoJ5l.jpg I then take a wisp of scrap styrene (Sorry for the blurred image) and slide it into the seam: http://i.imgur.com/aq8pTx2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aq8pTx2l.jpg Apply a drop of liquid styrene cement (I use Ambroid ProWeld Thin Cement) and allow to dry for a minute. File off the excess and you're done: http://i.imgur.com/yDlKDMa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yDlKDMal.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3416713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 Range Finder Component I guess the rectangular box on top of the superstructure is some sort of range finder and since the ones included with the sponson mounted lascannons on the Landraider are physically too small I had to scratch a larger one. Fortunately the Leman Russ fenders are approximately the size required so I used the smallest for the 'Finder. http://i.imgur.com/diH9vs8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/diH9vs8l.jpg I used a Jerry can for the interior and a set of binoculars for the range lenses and am dressing the skin to simulate the surface of the item in the 3D image below http://i.imgur.com/FXw7EYx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FXw7EYxl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3418236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 12, 2013 Author Share Posted August 12, 2013 The Risk of Too Much Coverage The Main gun superstructure was surprisingly easy to build considering how much I put off building it......... Jeez Blackadder that main cannon looks awfully tiny? Right now the above wing armour is sketched in which should give a bit of a boost to the verisimilitude of the project. http://i.imgur.com/VWnMSIr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VWnMSIrl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3419687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Hull Armour Heavier and Heavier, this model has slabs of simulated armour that causes serious doubt on the ability to actually remain in the air. Engines powerful as they may be eventually reach a point of diminishing returns. Slabs of armour 4 cm thick and covering 10's of square meters of coverage. That said the new armour surely looks cool. http://i.imgur.com/ey73N3i.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ey73N3il.jpg I vacillate on liking this model to incredulity whether it has any chance of airworthiness http://i.imgur.com/7LnDZqx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7LnDZqxl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3424300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Can't remember the movie different craft but looking at it for a while I'd call it a flying brick. but I love it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3424308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeraven Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 wow...amaizing work...your T-hawk is looking great Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3424313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Free Raised Letters for Your Models I scraped these off the mouthwash caps when I built the T'hawk's exhaust cones. Perfect raised letters (excuse the shaking of the camera in the photo); I cut these off with the chisel tool in the picture but a razor would do as well. Of course you are limited to the common letters embossed on the caps of products and prescription drug containers but with judicious editing names etc can be worked out....... http://i.imgur.com/HDHABhX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/HDHABhXl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3424969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 The Flying Turbo Laser Spar The hull trunnion mounts are simple now that I have addressed myself to the fabrication. The only problem is that the wing as I have it situated is about 13 mm too far forward. A simple matter to correct but a good learning experience for me. Don't apply detail until all the basic structure is completed. http://i.imgur.com/KzQSzEG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KzQSzEGl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UQCNriJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UQCNriJl.jpg The most amazing thing about this mistake is it brings the wing trailing edge back to the original projected position when I first laid out the model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3425600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHunters Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 It is the cleanliness of the Plasticard work that most infuriates me! That said I continue to follow with great interest and awe. May you continue at pace my good man! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3425641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 In my defense the model has been kicking around for three to four years and has picked up considerable grime in that time. Some of the original plasticard has yellowed it is so old. You will note in the image below in the lower right corner my original mark and scrawl indicating the trailing edge wing root and the revised position about a half inch forward where I have cut out the gear well and glued in the gear retract guide. http://i.imgur.com/UQCNriJ.jpg Now I must extend the well back 1/2 inch and reposition the retract guide likewise. It could have been worse, I could have mounted the completed wing and had to hack the thing apart to correct the mistake! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3425778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 The Flying Laser Spar: Now that the hinge points are established on the hull I can make an estimate on the placement of the Turbo Laser flying spar mount. This structure was added to the FW design to no doubt support the heavy moment of the wing as no amount of gluing could prevent the wings from falling off or drooping on the FW model. Even my wings lightly built as they are suffer from excessive tip droop with my temporary attach screws. Anyway I guessed at the placement of the wings on the fuselage and for some reason doubted my placement and mounted them 13 mm further than my original guess. Now I have to reposition them further back the same 13 mm. The Flying Spar core structure I guesstimated to be 145 mm long from hinge point to wing cradle the excess being cut off when the Lasers are manufactured. I placed the width at 35 mm which seems a judicious size to build on and 2.5 mm thick which gives me a nice slot to mount the Turbolasers. http://i.imgur.com/ck138sv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ck138svl.jpg All this will begin to make more sense once the spars are mounted on the hinge trunnion, least wise I hope as I am totally making this up as I proceed.......... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3433762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Flying Lascannon Strut: Surprisingly the proportions appear okay and when the wing is positioned aft about a centimeter the strut should fall about mid camber (of course ''camber'' isn't something that concerned engineers in the far distant future but we won't go there.) http://i.imgur.com/GfpJUvo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GfpJUvol.jpg The tubing seems to provide enough friction to maintain the position in "Attack" and "Stowed" mode but I'll double sleeve the tubes just to provide for wear. http://i.imgur.com/41URWSj.jpg http://i.imgur.com/41URWSjl.jpg What's going on with the letter colour? Every reply I make the letters come out a dark gray almost invisible on this black background. How to I change this permanently back to white on black or reset the reply editor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3435852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DibbZi Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Wow... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3435921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Great now I've changed the theme to black letters on a white background and the previous replies are now invisible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3435970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 TurboLaser Struts 1 My old drafting table has seen better days. Since the advent of digital drafting it has been employed as a styrene cutting board instead. Right now it is a convenient place to image the T'hawk as the model has become too big to readily display on conventional furniture. http://i.imgur.com/RoDb5QE.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RoDb5QEl.jpg Detailing the struts started with the root camber although "camber" is not the correct word to describe the bowing of the flight surface as it is symmetrical top and underside. Camber technically would refer to an asymmetry between top and bottom curves. Anyway I like the "camber" because it adds interest to otherwise boring flat surfaces with minimal effort. http://i.imgur.com/oW9Sv3R.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oW9Sv3Rl.jpg The struts in the stowed position as in the conventional FW original take on a less dynamic demeanor (IMHO) now that I see them in the attack mode. Those of you with FW T'hawks might want to try this configuration for a change from the ordinary. http://i.imgur.com/RJVMlvc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RJVMlvcl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3436932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 serious dedication! I wouldn't dare paint that when finished! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3436949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DibbZi Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 So what materials are you going to use to construct the cannon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3436980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHunters Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Loving it in attack mode! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3437029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 So what materials are you going to use to construct the cannon? 0.020 inch sheet styrene wrapped around a core tube to achieve the requisite diameter same as I did for the Warlord main cannons (This is where it pays to have a wholesale source of sheet styrene) and then just glue on gobs of detail bits until it looks something like a Volcano Cannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3437091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 Turbo Struts Continues: Trying the struts out for fit everything seems in order to mount at least temporarily the Lasers so I can get an approximation where to put the tip saddles. http://i.imgur.com/AIuz4Ot.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AIuz4Otl.jpg With the struts in the attack position this thing really give a thrilling aspect to the T'hawk concept.............. I'm starting to like this model. http://i.imgur.com/dySV1XK.jpg http://i.imgur.com/dySV1XKl.jpg (Note to self; install stops to limit degree of travel for the struts.) The obligatory little guy for scale comparison. This ship is huge. http://i.imgur.com/8efdRtY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8efdRtYl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/11/#findComment-3439464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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