Blackadder Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Feel free, I don't hold the copyright to this model, The Nose Gear Continues: The following chronicles the manufacture of the nose gear: I barely had room for the light module bitz on the foot pad although everything else fitted with room to spare. still have so detailing to do on th top surface of the landing pad and the tread on the underside. but I am winding down for today and considered it time for an update. http://i.imgur.com/qatEePo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qatEePol.jpg Still can't make up my mind whether to cant the gear forward or make it vertical. http://i.imgur.com/k4tFtCO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/k4tFtCOl.jpg The detail inside the gear well is pretty much complete but I still need rivets etc on the reinforcing framework. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3768380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 She's Got Leggs: Okay the landing gear is installed, the nose gear at this time can retract but not the main gear. There seems no problem that even un-reinforced the spindly struts can support the massive weight of the model, 3 kilo of styrene. http://i.imgur.com/aCVHZDR.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aCVHZDRl.jpg Now that I have length of the struts established I can go ahead and beef up the main struts and make them retractable. I also need to design torque links so the pads do not swivel. http://i.imgur.com/c4wBfv2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/c4wBfv2l.jpg The front landing pad has a spring loaded strut extension which facilitates stowing so the pad can lock in when retracted. http://i.imgur.com/qeEr64X.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qeEr64Xl.jpg Here we see the ground clearance allows for a belly hung LandRaider even though I have been apprised T'hawk transports do not carry LandRaiders. http://i.imgur.com/DbzoHBX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DbzoHBXl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gRcuOxW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gRcuOxWl.jpg The forward cargo maw can comfortably disgorge an 'slick' Rhino (Sorry, the only Rhino I have is a cripple Chaos model) with plenty of headroom and side room to spare. http://i.imgur.com/wKxHFc5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wKxHFc5l.jpg The ramp angle is a bit too extreme which will have to be remedied with fold-able ramp extension tracks. http://i.imgur.com/QW7zeKz.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QW7zeKzl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3769138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Very nice. Although I thought that Thawk transporters could carry one land raider or two rhinos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3769235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Silvernale Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Very nice. Although I thought that Thawk transporters could carry one land raider or two rhinos. I looked it up and this is correct. One LR of any variant or two rhino-chassis vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3769335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 My contention is that necessity and innovation is rampant in front line conditions When I was in the military we did a lot of things not officially sanctioned and as long as it got the job done nobody complained. Of course things might be different now with equipment costing millions of dollars but I doubt it. My version is capable of slinging a LandRaider and the design of the underside of the hull seems perfect to receive the large rhomboid shaped tank Its just that the FW version T'hawk is too undersized to take advantage that capability. My model dwarfs the LandRaider enough to make this possible. Whether I will actually hang a 'Raider underneath remains to be seen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3769392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHunters Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I frickin love this more every time I see it! Extendable fold down ramp, awesome, Landraider stowage, awesome, and I whole heartedly agree, necessity breeds innovation, and damn the mechanicus! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3769402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamesEtc Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Ya see, this is the Thunderhawk Mk MMXIV, so it is bigger than the other models =D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3769816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fengir Ironfist Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3769820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volfen Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I thoroughly enjoy following Blackadder's creations and this one may be the best yet. The attention to detail, the engineering of 40K - style PSB, the sheer artistry of the work here astounds me. To think it is on a project that you started without being fully enthused makes me doubly impressed. Based off Forgeworld's prices I would guess that to get a model of comparable quality one would have to drop in excess of $1500. All it took was a few years work, right? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3769858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 seeing it with the rhino really shows how big it is, I hadn't really appreciated the size of it! As a master scratch-builder and restorer of forgeworld resin what's the best way to disassemble superglued parts? I got an ebay warhound that seems to have been assembled by dipping it in glue.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3770253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Simple green breaks standard medium strength superglue down enough to get the pieces apart. Some tweezers and patience will get the excess off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3770289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thanks, M2C, can you get simple green in the UK? There is A LOT of glue (sorry for hijacking the thread) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3770892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 There are commercially available super glue dissolvers but I have had little luck or patience employing them. I have had good results with Locktite products and they claim to have a superglue emollient which coincidentally is available in the UK http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/decorating-tools-and-supplies/glue-tape-adhesives-sealants/adhesives/-specificproducttype-glue_removers/LOCTITE-Glue-Remover-Tube-5g-9254453?noCookies=false Personally I use the direct approach and drive wedges into the seams and prise the components apart. Resin is surprisingly resilient and rarely takes damage from this rough treatment. See my thread on restoring Baneblades for further demonstrations of the technique. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/282159-blackadders-refurbishment-of-derelict-fw-resin-baneblades-t/?do=findComment&comment=3500517 Of course I would have to see what the particular problem you have; dipped into superglue may be beyond salvage. Drop me a post on the Baneblade thread with an image of the Warhound and we'll take a look at the project. Fortunately glue overkill might work to your favor because it is most effective used sparingly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3770933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montuhotep Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Just been all the way through this thread - I cannot find words to express my amazement at the scale of the task you set yourself and the brilliance with which you've executed it..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3770936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 seeing it with the rhino really shows how big it is, I hadn't really appreciated the size of it! As a master scratch-builder and restorer of forgeworld resin what's the best way to disassemble superglued parts? I got an ebay warhound that seems to have been assembled by dipping it in glue.... Another tip is to leave it in a Freezer for an hour or two as it will make the glue brittle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3771179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Thanks for the replies............ Slimming Facets? One of the features that really did it for me on the 3D model was the beveled edges of the forward fuselage. Somehow it relieved the boxlike appearance of the FW prototype and particularly on my over-sized model lent a slimming appearance to the overall model. Not so with the rounding front heat shield; I still have to work on that................. http://i.imgur.com/tttZ1WX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tttZ1WXl.jpg I took a few of the same shot to show the relief of the facets of which I believe came out rather satisfactory. http://i.imgur.com/vMkIioN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vMkIioNl.jpg I know I'm gonna get some heat on my rendering of the Heat Shields from T'hawk purists. http://i.imgur.com/mG4cwi8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mG4cwi8l.jpg I just have to dress these curves............ http://i.imgur.com/yToRUwD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yToRUwDl.jpg Egad! Curves on a T'hawk? Blasphemy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3785555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Blasphemy? Perhaps, but one worth adopting if that vehicle is ever to look vaguely possible, therefore noteworthy in its appearance. I really like how this looks with the rounded edges added, that is a great choice in my humble opinion! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3785800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Broken Knife Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Just out of interest have you got a copy of IA2? It has TH cut outs and schematics - including all of the internal detailing of the power source for the dorsal weapons. I have a hard copy that i could scan in and email over the relevant sections. - Their is also some interesting discussion regarding the 'attack wings' (GW term not mine). Also, there is some nice footage in the Ultramarines Movie of a TH landing and taking off. Both sources show that the lower cargo level isn't for troop transport. Looking good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3824826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Thanks for the info, any links you could provide would be appreciated. I'm especially interested in the TO and LANDING . Any interior detail is also of interest.......... In point of fact just about everything you've mentioned is new to me. You're correct,I have seen but I don't remember where that the troops are carried on the upper deck under the Volcano cannon hence the stairs and the lavatory plumbing under the airbrakes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3825151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Broken Knife Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 No worries - I have copy of IA2 in digital format but cannot find it at the moment. I'll scan the hard copy at work on Monday and bounce it over - PM me an email address. Thinking about it the Ultramarines movie has footage of a speeder deploying from the cargo hold too. Totally inspired by all of this and made a buying run to the local model shop this morning - Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3825166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Broken Knife Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Dude - I have some hastily scanned docs for you but I need an email address. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3826841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Sorry I missed this post Broken Knife I was recovering from surgery (Again) and didn't check my threads too thoroughly. Maybe we can resume what we were doing at the time, I kinda forgot what it was about? Thanksgiving Week: Well I've received orders from the 'Top' aka Ms BA that I have to clean up my mess because company's coming and my room, "My Room!" looks a mess and she'll be ashamed if any one is brought in there Yada, yada, yada......... Of course I'll be bringing people in to look at my pastime pursuits so I'm complying. First order is to get all the models in one piece because, I know what it looks like when in pieces but hardly anyone else would so I gathered all the Thunderhawk pieces from the various corners of the room and assembled them and waddaya know I think its time start painting. First off sorry about the flash in the first image because it the only one that shows the ball turrets. http://i.imgur.com/sbDssF2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sbDssF2l.jpg The high level front view shows the various ages of the styrene because this model has taken an inordinate amount of time to produce and the older styrene has yellowed. Note in the foreground the interior walls that when wired will finally be glued into place. I built those walls over four years ago; Gad! http://i.imgur.com/dP9MYPz.jpg http://i.imgur.com/dP9MYPzl.jpg Still to be done is to beef up the main landing gear struts but that shouldn't affect painting. also note the various shades of greasy hand yellowing chronicling the various stages of building over the years. http://i.imgur.com/WR52vfi.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WR52vfil.jpg This calls for another martini; Skoal! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3870153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissful Brushes Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's really coming along nicely now!! Any thoughts on its affiliation yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3870505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Way Too Much Effort: I'm putting too much effort into a model I wasn't that enthused about in the first place. But in for a penny as the saying goes. There are some beautiful colour 3D renderings of T'hawks available and of all this is by far my favorite. http://i.imgur.com/9V6NhiQ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9V6NhiQl.jpg The rendering actually makes a T'hawk plausible and real. http://i.imgur.com/ZreDRQV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZreDRQVl.jpg BTW this is the colour scheme I've decided on so anyone know what chapter is this please? So since I am committed to finishing this model I may as well duplicate it the whole way and revamp the nose cowl/door. http://i.imgur.com/278Y6Hz.jpg http://i.imgur.com/278Y6Hzl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3870637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 If I had to guess BlackAdder, I'd say that it was Grey Knights-- given all of the Inquisitorial decorations on the renders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/16/#findComment-3870749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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