Blackadder Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 The plumbing installed, a lot of pipes for such a small area. I suppose fuel lines and tubes for air conditioning and pressurization. Too high for lavatory waste pipes. The right side: http://i.imgur.com/jz7xhl.jpg And the left side: http://i.imgur.com/eAvWrl.jpg E. Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2891177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 Enough resting on my laurels; there's nothing difficult about this detailing. The thin pipe is actually made from old plastic flower pot hangers. you know the kind that have the hook moulded into them. I saved a bunch of them years ago and I'm soon going to be running out. I used styrene rods for the bending and bent them with a pair of needlenose pliers. The trick is for more leverage to bend the rod before you cut it. Then over bent the angle and flex it back to the angle you want. Styrene fatigues quickly and should hold it's bend when glued in place. Here's a short tutorial on pipe fitting. The simplest is to just cut rings in the next size larger of the Evergreen telescoping tubing. Slide the ring onto the smaller rod or tube and glue in place with ProWeld thin cement. No need for pictures of this process, But....... sometimes you want a really thin sleeve on your tubing. First file or sand the smaller dia. tube to a tapered end: http://i.imgur.com/3A5gul.jpg Then with a thin pointed Xacto blade ream out the larger dia. tube: http://i.imgur.com/QqVcal.jpg to receive the previously tapered rod or tube: http://i.imgur.com/tckqbl.jpg Join the two tubes and cement and set aside to dry on a flat surface: http://i.imgur.com/L6X5Gl.jpg Next; Really thin bands on the tubing. -- E. Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2891214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Mephistopheles Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 You *ARE* crazy! Fantastic work though. A class above, it really is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2891662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sehguhdier Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I can't wait until it's done. I was thinking about doing this for a pair of Stormravens and I will definitely be following your process to do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2891725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Came across this on google and thought it might help. http://i.imgur.com/FSKvHl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2892261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Cutting out the hull was the hard part, another step backwards but it had to be done. A 2 mm bulkhead to strengthen the casement and to provide a secure mount for the hinge assembly. the cutting out the hinge recesses which gives me this result and no significant damage. http://i.imgur.com/CzIAgl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/cIdpXl.jpg -- E. Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2892435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrofoam04 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Incredible! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2892444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Below is a composite image of the left side hinge showing the range of motion and the assembled components. Now all I have to do is reproduce it for the right side. I'll take pictures of the components seperately for the right side hinge; I didn't for the left because I wasn't sure the damned thing would work. :lol: http://i.imgur.com/yPJ4Yl.jpg -- E. Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2892498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 The hinge installed shown in the closed position: http://i.imgur.com/rvapJl.jpg The hinge in the open position: http://i.imgur.com/DSpoCl.jpg Sink me, it works! I'll be finishing skinning the fuselage this weekend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2894501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorpayne327 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I cant even fathom an explanation of how awesome this is... I feel so inspired to scratch built my own stuff. Keep up the great work :) This is truly "Winning" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2894702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firespyer Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Seen so many 'Scratch Built' Thunderhawks and stormravens that are little more then a shoebox with wings. Your's however is truly a work of art! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2894835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Seen so many 'Scratch Built' Thunderhawks and stormravens that are little more then a shoebox with wings. Your's however is truly a work of art! It's all a question of what you are satisfied with. I am not satisfied unless I can outdo that which the talented artists at FW produced as that is original; mine is at best a copy. As with Lucie I have to make the effort to add something to the original. Some builders of scratch built T'hawks want a playing piece, not an overbuilt 'work of art'. Also I truly love the challenge of scratch building and am willing to devote an inordinate amount of time to that end. I wouldn't have thought that such a seemingly simple moving device could have consumed so much time but at last it is done except for the door panels. I managed to sheath the lower hull and around the brake openings on both sides; not too far behind my expectations for the weekend in spite of having to work a bit. Rather pleased at the symmetry and the very close match of the left side and right side structures: http://i.imgur.com/JvtJYl.jpg The open position, a tad larger than the 3D image but it's a moving part. http://i.imgur.com/dUrZJl.jpg -- E. Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2897077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxmarine Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Love it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2897204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander S. Caesare Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Holy Christ. You should be a sculptor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2897215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Holy Christ. You should be a sculptor. BY definition he IS a sculptor, just not being paid for it... Sterling work, loved every step. Inspiration to make my own super heavy tabk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2897496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorpayne327 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Wish there was a Like Button xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2897583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Holy Christ. You should be a sculptor. BY definition he IS a sculptor, just not being paid for it... Sterling work, loved every step. Inspiration to make my own super heavy tabk Thanks for the compliments. As far as payment the accolades of my peers are remuneration enough. Speaking of sculptor, I'm toying with the idea of making a Hierophant biotitan. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/b/b2/NidTitan1.jpg Now that would be sculpting in the literal sense. I've even figured how to make the joints movable; RC model aircraft control surface hinges. http://www.horizonhobby.co.uk/aeroonline/e8flightline/e84links/e84im13.jpg but first I have to complete all my other projects. The too many irons in the fire as it is, Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2897916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Melice Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 how about some original 40k sculpts??? you even cam market them later to ether GW directly of Forgeworld??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2897922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I've been neglecting my public with some personal issues and dressing some of the top hamper that doesn't make for interesting updates. But now there is some progress on the underbelly where I am designing the landing pad wells. First, the crude sketches: http://i.imgur.com/4W3V4l.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zOaxwl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2902386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 The wing root mount plate and engine mount tab outboard with one piece temporarily tacked in place to demo the approximate position. I think it's too far forward but that is the beauty of modular construction for once they are assembled I can place them where ever they appear correct. http://i.imgur.com/U9zxol.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2902699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
splicer407 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Another win for modularity! Great work, I admire your dedication and skill >.> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2903414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thanks, carrying modularity a bit further: The landing gear wells are coming along quite nicely. I've had a thought to build each wing separate from the hull and mount them with screws for easy disassembly for transport. This will be quite a large model and damage will occur if in one piece. http://i.imgur.com/tpPDel.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tpPDe.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2903668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorpayne327 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 quick question, how to do u plan, if at all, to extend and retract the landing gear? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2903840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarklordobsidian Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I've been following this on both warseer and B&C since its inception, and I thought it's finally time to say that your attetion to detail is surpassed by none and that I wish you the absolute best in this project, it's hard enough to scratchbuild a small tank, let alone a thunderhawk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2904029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 quick question, how to do u plan, if at all, to extend and retract the landing gear? This model will not weigh as much as it's FW equivalent. I plan to use ball point pen springs or possibly stronger to deploy the gear encased in telescoping styrene tubing. I haven't worked out the details yet but I have this mechanism in my pocket. When the time comes I will expand on the concept. I've been following this on both warseer and B&C since its inception, and I thought it's finally time to say that your attetion to detail is surpassed by none and that I wish you the absolute best in this project, it's hard enough to scratchbuild a small tank, let alone a thunderhawk. I fail to see how the larger size of a model increases the difficulty. Actually to my mind the smaller model is more difficult and the value compared to the effort less rewarding as you will spend just as much time in a detailed model that may be worth $35 as a kit. A thunderhawk costs $600+ dollars a price very few are willing to fork over. IMHO for what it's worth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231647-blackadders-scratchbuilt-thunderhawk/page/4/#findComment-2904118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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