jimmimellows Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Thanks for all the comments guys. In answer to a couple of specific questions... @Irwit - I did a tutorial (without pics :) ) on page 4 i think. It covers snow and melting snow effects. Hopefully get a proper one with pics done at some point. @Nighthunters - im begining to regret NMM as it takes AGES but im not sure i want a NMM squad of termi's and metallics on everything else. It looks nice but a full armies worth is a bit daunting now! I couldnt resist the logo on the doors of the rhino, i think i'll use them on my others eventually as they only take a couple of mins in the machine. Glueing the rivets on is another matter! @Zhoolda - The contemptor is the best kit ive ever built, i highly recommend it. It's fully posable and other than the eagle on the torso, its a perfect blank canvas if you like plasticard and greenstuff. I say do it. Regarding the damage/weathering, i did it as a test to be honest, after seeing the effect done really well by a few people lately. I'm pretty pleased so i think i'll go back to my "finished" models and add a few scratches etc. Its in the same category as NMM regarding wether to do everything the same or just switch to metallics from now on! Thanks guys, Jimmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks for all the comments guys. In answer to a couple of specific questions... @Irwit - I did a tutorial (without pics :) ) on page 4 i think. It covers snow and melting snow effects. Hopefully get a proper one with pics done at some point. @Nighthunters - im begining to regret NMM as it takes AGES but im not sure i want a NMM squad of termi's and metallics on everything else. It looks nice but a full armies worth is a bit daunting now! I couldnt resist the logo on the doors of the rhino, i think i'll use them on my others eventually as they only take a couple of mins in the machine. Glueing the rivets on is another matter! @Zhoolda - The contemptor is the best kit ive ever built, i highly recommend it. It's fully posable and other than the eagle on the torso, its a perfect blank canvas if you like plasticard and greenstuff. I say do it. Regarding the damage/weathering, i did it as a test to be honest, after seeing the effect done really well by a few people lately. I'm pretty pleased so i think i'll go back to my "finished" models and add a few scratches etc. Its in the same category as NMM regarding wether to do everything the same or just switch to metallics from now on! Thanks guys, Jimmi Hi Jimmi Have you got a link to that tutorial? Be much appreciated. Theres only 2 pages on the bases page so Im not sure where you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Normal snow 1) Mix up some Bicarb of soda and PVA glue in a 50/50 ratio until you have a toothpaste texture. You can add a little dash of water to make the paste easier to move around on the base. DO NOT USE either woodglue and/or baking powder as they yellow over time..........and no one likes yellow snow! 2)Use appropriate tool (i use a sculpting tool) to drop paste onto the desired area and to push it around until your happy. I let it dry and do a few layers to get nice piles of settled snow. 3) On the final layer, sit your model in a tray and pile up neat bicarb over the PVA bicarb mix. Leave this to dry overnight before moving the model. 4) Once dry, remove model from tub and use a brush to dust off any excess powder. 5) Spray with matt varnish to seal it all! Melting snow 1)Add some greenstuff to the surface on the base, textured it with a rock to create the ground then painted it as normal. 2)Paint a puddle of PVA around the feet, leaving the bit closest the feet untouched so it looks "dry" and you can see the untouched GS ground texture. 3)Once the PVA goes off add the bicarb/PVA snow leaving a "border" of the PVA layer visible. 4)Once thats dry knock off any excess snow then spray dullcote varnish over the hole thing. 5) Now go back over the PVA with brush on gloss varnish to make the ice look wet, ensuring to get a bit of varnish on the overlap between the ice and snow to sort of blend the melting effect. 6) Pat yourself on the back! It was down near the bottom of page 4 but it was easier for me to just copy/paste. Hope that helps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Normal snow 1) Mix up some Bicarb of soda and PVA glue in a 50/50 ratio until you have a toothpaste texture. You can add a little dash of water to make the paste easier to move around on the base. DO NOT USE either woodglue and/or baking powder as they yellow over time..........and no one likes yellow snow! 2)Use appropriate tool (i use a sculpting tool) to drop paste onto the desired area and to push it around until your happy. I let it dry and do a few layers to get nice piles of settled snow. 3) On the final layer, sit your model in a tray and pile up neat bicarb over the PVA bicarb mix. Leave this to dry overnight before moving the model. 4) Once dry, remove model from tub and use a brush to dust off any excess powder. 5) Spray with matt varnish to seal it all! Melting snow 1)Add some greenstuff to the surface on the base, textured it with a rock to create the ground then painted it as normal. 2)Paint a puddle of PVA around the feet, leaving the bit closest the feet untouched so it looks "dry" and you can see the untouched GS ground texture. 3)Once the PVA goes off add the bicarb/PVA snow leaving a "border" of the PVA layer visible. 4)Once thats dry knock off any excess snow then spray dullcote varnish over the hole thing. 5) Now go back over the PVA with brush on gloss varnish to make the ice look wet, ensuring to get a bit of varnish on the overlap between the ice and snow to sort of blend the melting effect. 6) Pat yourself on the back! It was down near the bottom of page 4 but it was easier for me to just copy/paste. Hope that helps :) Cheers mate :( appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh0sen Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I wish I had read that recipe before I went and did all my snow with just greenstuff, oh well... Keep up the amazing work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 I will mention that due to the white textured nature of the bicarb snow, even with a varnish coat its quite easy to rub dirt into the "grain" of the snow by handling the models. I get around it by A) holding the model by the plastic base and :tu: not letting any grubby handed urchins touch my models........... *pulls scalpel* (in an aggresive prison voice) "DONT TOUCH MY STUFF MAN" etc Or in my case, dont let your missus move your models to "dust" around! *DISCLAIMER* - Jimmi and the worldeaters do not endorse, and are not responsible for any violence that this thread may encourage :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Or in my case, dont let your missus move your models to "dust" around! This rule is valid for cleaning ladies, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I got a bit excitable on the lasercutter and decided to make a "choppy" doser blade. There are about 60 peices in the saw blade assembly and i made it magnetic for removability. http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0370.jpg I've been meaning to comment, and after your PM I was reminded that I just wanted to publicly say... The Dozer Blade is brilliant! It screams 'Khorne', and I can see images of enemy troops trying to get out of the way of a Tank Rush, only to be threshed like a stalk of wheat and pulled under the tank in a gory mess. I had also considered doing NMM for the rebuilding of my army, and then I considered just how much metal I had in (on) the force. After I woke up from the mild aneurism I gave myself, I decided against it. Hopefully it won't cause you too much frustration, since the final outcome is outstanding. As usual, keep on the stunning work. Always looking forward to seeing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Nice marines bro-namath. The thread name made me laugh too, Jimmy Eat World, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Quick update time, I got involved in a discussion about bloodthirster models Discussion is in the throne of skulls subforum for those interested. One chap said he liked the FW prince model so much that he had built 2 versions with different weapon options. I've previously mentioned about possible magnetic wings but i suddenly thought hang on, why not just build a prince/thirster with all magnetic options and kill 2 birds with one stone. Then i remembered the spare axe FW sent after my miscast part woes with this model...............anyway, i spent last night doing some bloodthirster weapon options with obligatory magnets. Im pretty happy and tonight i'll be detailing both axe handle and whip Chaos manticore wings will be soon to follow. http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0390.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0386.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0389.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0388.jpg Hope you like! Oh almost forgot... @Subtlediscord - Thanks for the comments again, im glad you like the concept behind the meat blender. I'll send you a little flat pack to knockup with your other bits once you decide what you want cutting. With regards to the NMM, ive been debating it for the last 2 weeks and i've decided to switch to metallics before i go insane. The effect of NMM is very pleasing but its putting me off painting with how long it takes. Zhufor will remain as he is, as will the herald who cant be dismantled to repaint, but the termi's and everything after will be repainted in metallics..........slightly gutting but good for my mental health in the longrun. I'll be posting on your topic as soon as a get a few mins at break, loving the 3D modelling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Very nice. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHunters Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Seconded, sad to hear about the demise of the NMM but understand the reasoning, many times I have cursed the convoluted paint scheme I chose for my marines in the exuberance of youth and 2nd Edition style small armies! Looking forward to seeing how the metallics turn out. FTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redemption2994 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Beautiful work sir. The contrast of the snow and the armor is very refreshing. I muchly enjoy the bloody effects and your Zhufor is superb. Might I ask what Metallics you'll be using when the time comes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks for the comments guys. I'll be using GW metallics as apparently the vallejo ones are not as good according to many people. Hopefully the postman wil drop them off later! I'll be using a true metallics technique similar to NMM, using lots of black glazes to add real contrast to any dark spots. Hopefully should be quicker the NMM technique. Progressed a little on the bloodthirster weapon options last night by adding a wrapped handle to his axe, doing some light GS work to fill a couple of gaps around the wrist, also added a pair of tails to the whip using 0.8mm fuse wire, i just need to find some small beads and hooks to add to the ends and thats basically done. Pics tomorrow once i've finished the GS work tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 And here are the weapon conversions finished. Just got the wings to do some point soon. Pretty happy with how this conversion went, it wasnt too hard at all and i've ended up with 2 models in 1. Nearly all the bits in the conversion can be made from the axe you get in the kit. Only the fusewire whip, small bits of brass etch and the styrene whip handle end were added, so all in all you can do this basic swapout pretty much from the original kit. http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0391.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0393.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0394.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0395.jpg Cheers, Jimmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Right time for an overdue update, i thought i'd better rescue this thread from page 15 of the forum :) Not got too much done as i'm learning solidworks so it been eating my spare time somewhat. However, ive finished the prince conversion and am in the painting stages. here are some up to date WIP photos. The magnetic wings were a pig to do, but i wanted to keep the original model with spikey back horn things. All in all i'm pretty happy with the swapout as i can switch between prince and bloodthirster now. Worth the pain in the longrun. Wings used were bought on american ebay and are the chaos manticore wings with a lot of joining and greenstuffing where they join each other. http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0398.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0399.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0400.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0401.jpg Back view minus the wings http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0402.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0405.jpg magnets http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0406.jpg Cheers guys, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Awesomely done, mate, and great idea, that of a Thirster/Prince. PS: I had never noticed the Khorne marking on the model's...behind...interesting location, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circus Nurgling Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Outstanding pieces. I just ordered some FW Khorne Termi bits, to make a Lord as a painting study and display piece (just for fun, the rest of my force is pure Nurgle). I'll definitely be borrowing from some of your technique for the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Holy ;) ! Bloody hell Jimmy he's awesome. I really wish you did commisions! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Looks brilliant mate. Great job on the one piece wings. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 All I can think is, slick. Can't wait to see them painted. The join is so nice they're just going to melt together. All hail the neodymium magnets! You can never have too many magnets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKits Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 do not worry my friend you may consider it a rescue but we call an update in amazing work that you are doing *smiles and bows to you* please keep it up i'm looking forward to seeing more ! like that finished contemptor and your custom butcher cannon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Thanks for the comments guys, much appreciated. Im busily painting away so hopefully, i'll have some more pics up soon @ Greyall - It all started as a money making plan to save buying the same model twice and converting 2 versions. As for the icon, its a bit of a weird location......but not as wierd as the chain thong!! @ Circus Nurgling - Thanks for the compliment, glad you like it. I cant recommend the FW kit enough. Some people dont like the scale but i think its ok, the sculpts more than make up for it. Look forward to seeing your model, good luck. @ Tanith Ghost - Thanks buddy. If i only had twice as many hours in the day.....I might eventually find the time to do commisions, hopefully. @ Biohazard - Thanks, it was a bit tricky to line the wings up, i ended up making an armature then pressing the soft greenstuff on the models back make a nice joint. @ Subtle discord - Thanks, glad you like the conversion. I'm with you.......you can never have too many magnets, i dont know how people coped before without easy weapon swapouts! Loving your progress on your black legion by the way. @Davidkits - Thanks for the compliment. The contemptor is nearly ready for metallics but i got sidetracked with the prince. Butcher cannon coming soon as i dont like the one that FW made for the new daemon engine thing. I may paint some more of the contemptor tonight for a change. thanks guys, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Good afternoon chaps, Just giving this thread a much needed update. Sorry to say its not a huge update but ive been experimenting with some techniques from the Forgeworld modelling masterclass books which i must say, i highly recommend. They are full of really easy and effective techniques that give very satisfying results........... Anyhow, onto my update. My contemptor is nearly done. Red has been heavily weathered with painted on chips and damage. This didnt take as long as you would think and im really chuffed with the outcome. Metallics are almost done. Arms are still being shaded but the rest of the metals have been fully shaded. I just have to go over the gold to add a bit more shine in places then do my obligatory mithril highlight. I've slightly adapted a true metallics technique to get this effect, it just uses a slightly thicker black glaze to reduce the amounts of shading which you have to buld up using this technique. Still to do...... Planet logos will need tidying up Metallics need highlights and rust Bone needs darkening slightly Base Butcher Cannon Arm Pics - http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0422.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0426.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0425.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0428.jpg http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/jimmimellows/DSC_0427.jpg Any input and feedback appreciated, Thanks guys, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batu Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Fantastic dreadnought ! I can't belive he is just wip. Do you have some pics in which he is not painted yet ? I would like to see how you did him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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