greendestiny Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I have been working on a DIY chapter based on the Knights Hospitallers using the BT rules. Their primary colors are white armor with red and gold/silver. There is a strong monastic feeling that is represented by robed marines, meq, and terminators being in earth tones. These colors are based on the following: White, gold, and silver: Purity Red, : Blood Brown, and other earth tones: Humility I thought as a fun twist and a throwback to thier home world they use the Peregrine Falcon as a totem or mascot. I had originally thought to use the hawk but the models look more falcon like than hawk like. Also because I had a ton of DA bits and the raven wings look cool. They are composed mostly of BT, DA, and some Chaos bits to make them look more ornate. I will do the whole DIY chapter write up another time. I wanted to get your thoughts on this. Who else has done Hospitallers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I am currently working up a similar chapter, though not using the Templar rules. So I look forward to seeing what you come up with. Are you going to consider the Hospital side of the Hospitallers with your Chapter? Just, please, don't call them the Knights Hospitaller, please... I'm sure your more original than that :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Are you going to consider the Hospital side of the Hospitallers with your Chapter? now that's an interesting Concept! A Space Marine Chapter that is dedicated towards trying to bring advanced medicine to a plague ridden zone or something like that. Massive hospital fleets which go with the chapter into infected areas and treat the populace and purge the source (most of the time Nurgle) mixed with zealous religious overtones, so when there isnt a nurgle infestation the marines find the next best thing and purge them! -Dono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 M2C-verse has the Apothecaries of the higher orders being referred to as Hospitallars. They form an 'ambulance' corps of rhinos outfitted for triage. Its pure fanfic though. I did write a bit about them trying to save a dying sword brethren, once. Couldn't quite get the emotion right. Anyway, M2C-verse apothecary ranks: Initiate of the Apothecarion->Medicus->Apothecary->Hospitallar->Lord Hospitallar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 So when can we start playing in the M2C-verse? :D -Dono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Whenever I use my asian hacking contacts to alter the BT codex master document at the printers into my own work!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Severarse Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I was also considering doing a Knights Hospitallers thing if our next codex ends up being branded as heresy (sucking). I would use BA rules instead. BA also works for Hospitallers, methinks, with the FNP bubbles and all. I like the idea of this. If anybody gets this done, please post pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Its important to note, the name Hospitallar places an emphasis not on warfighting, but the running of hospitals. It would do well for a player to consider another name, yet model them on the Hospitallars. A noble, knightly chapter is rarely seen in 40K. Chivalry is something 40K could do with a little more of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Richard Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 What about the Iron Knights a knightly chapter of Dorn's seed? I have seen a few done up with all the trimmings of fantasy bits helms, shields, heraldry and the like adorning the space marine armor. The only part I didn't care for was the armor coloring was too close to the Grey Knight setup. I like the idea of greendestiny's color scheme and would like to see a few picts...maybe even just a sample from our space marine painter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Well historically, even though the Hospitallers were first a hospital order, they did fight in the crusades with the Templars. I would be interested to see a Templar and Hospitaller force. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Now I want the Lord Hospitaller as an HQ choice.. I'd love to see how you pull the paint scheme, sounds interesting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendestiny Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 I was thinking of using a couple of names that are closely related. First of course "Knights Hospitaller." "Knights of Malta." This was an actual name that the Knights Hospitaller went by. After they left Rhodes they built a fortified monastic keep based on the island of Malta. At one point they withstood an army of 40,000 Turks with only 700 knights for several months. At the end of the battle the remaining 15,000 Turks gave up and went home. In the real history the Knights Templar were absorbed by the Knights Hospitaller. When they quit the crusades and moved to Malta they were still a fighting force upheld by the Catholic Church and supported by funding from several Christian nations, especially France and Italy. When funds ran thin they gained authorization to seize ships carrying Turkish goods or that were of Turkish origin. In this way they became very wealthy. "Maltese Falcons." A little bit of a jibe towards the old Humphry Bogart movie, but actually plays well with my theme since I have the falcon as my mascot. The SM home world will be called "Malta" after the island on Terra where the real KH lived thousands of years ago. The planet being a feral world with the inhabitants living in a feudal period similar to 1200 AD. Their base is an epic scale version of the real island fortress. Where they withstood an army of 40,000 orcs (kind of rhymes with turk) with only 70 SM! I am planning on implementing the hospitals into my fluff. Setting up hospital monastery fortresses on multiple worlds to aid mankind and purge the galaxy of horrid xenos infestations. Primary Enemies: Orcs: Because of the battle listed above. ( I will do some research and pick an orc tribe to hate) All things Nurgle Mutants- Seen as man infected by the warp. Tyranids: especially Gene Stealers Of course they hate everything else that all the other space marines hate, just the ones above more than normal. I will try to post some pics later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 The SM home world will be called "Malta" after the island on Terra where the real KH lived thousands of years ago. The planet being a feral world with the inhabitants living in a feudal period similar to 1200 AD. Their base is an epic scale version of the real island fortress. Where they withstood an army of 40,000 orcs (kind of rhymes with turk) with only 70 SM! I am planning on implementing the hospitals into my fluff. Setting up hospital monastery fortresses on multiple worlds to aid mankind and purge the galaxy of horrid xenos infestations. Primary Enemies: Orcs: Because of the battle listed above. ( I will do some research and pick an orc tribe to hate) All things Nurgle Mutants- Seen as man infected by the warp. Tyranids: especially Gene Stealers Of course they hate everything else that all the other space marines hate, just the ones above more than normal. I will try to post some pics later tonight. This seems very derivative of the real world influences. An homage is more powerful than a parody when it comes to chapter creation, and a good theme does not require exact replication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muadib02 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Interesting and random fact.... the heraldry of the Knights Hospitaller/Sovereign Military Order of Malta are ridiculously similar to those of the Black Templars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendestiny Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 Good point Marshal2, don't want it to be tooooo similar to the real world history. Will have to think of that when I do actual fluff writing. I do want them to have more concern for the general populace of the imperium than most other than the Salamanders have. http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/hjhjh.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/CIMG1640.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/CIMG1791.jpg Couple of older pics of models I worked on a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Exedore Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 looking very good, although I had preferred a mainly metal color part. Very good looking - did I mention that earlier :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Neat idea and the paintjob looks great too.A word of caution though,the hospital part lorewise has been grabbed by the sisters and i think the oder is called hospitalers too.Not to dissuade you just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendestiny Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 Thanks for the compliments and good to know on the SOB already having hospitallers. What do you think of the other names that I came up with? I want to keep the deep religious feel they have and their ties with a templar/crusade. I also am very keen to keep the falcon as part of their look. They aren't really Black Templars, Red Templars, or White Templars. Here are a few pics of my Rhino base tanks that I have been working on. I went sort of wild with magnets and made it so that I could do rhinos, razorbacks, preditors, and some fluffy totally not legal pred versions I made up just for fun. http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/rhinolt.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/imag0053.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/lazraz.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/preditorultimabolterrt.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/preditorultimarear.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/IMAG0047.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Richard Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maltese Falcons is a good name...stick with it. I like the color scheme of the knights. I also really like the colors for equipment...a very military theme. Many times you see the colors of the power armor and tanks match...but I like the mix you came up with. They seem to go very well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendestiny Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 I like Maltese Falcons, I was also thinking of "Falcon Templars." Does anyone know of a nice place to find a blank template for writing your DIY chapter fluff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Does anyone know of a nice place to find a blank template for writing your DIY chapter fluff? Here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=236090 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 One slight problem, though. I knew this was bothering me for some reason, it's a SoB rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthanor Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 One slight problem, though. I knew this was bothering me for some reason, it's a SoB rank. The title is definitly claimed, by a whole order, not just a rank, as was pointed out here: Neat idea and the paintjob looks great too.A word of caution though,the hospital part lorewise has been grabbed by the sisters and i think the oder is called hospitalers too.Not to dissuade you just saying. However, there are many themes that overlap between factions in 40k, such as knights for both Black Templars and Dark Angels. Given that what is proposed is a SM chapter called "Maltese Falcons" and that there is more to them than being male SoB hospitallers, it should not be much of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Severarse Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 That vehicle (I have no idea what to call it), is awesome! Nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 That vehicle (I have no idea what to call it), is awesome! Nicely done. Looks like a Rhino-razor-Lazer-Preda-Hurricane-back... or something ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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