Barabbas Sogalon Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Won't be buying the Achilles, despite my volkite addiction. True Death Guard are foot sloggers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3571596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Where is crusader weber at? I demanded mkIIIs. I have to "axe" him a question.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3571704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Also rules for kharibdis and alpha Achilles are up :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3571734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I seriously got a phone call this morning from my friend and he did laughing when I told him the mkIII command squads weren't up for this week but it was the Achilles. I was like nooooooooooooo! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3571745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Keep the thread FW model related, please. I had to clean it a bit as you may well noticed ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Also rules for kharibdis and alpha Achilles are up I cannot seem to find the links for those rules. Are they on the FW download page? Disregard. I didn't look low enough Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Also rules for kharibdis and alpha Achilles are up :)I cannot seem to find the links for those rules. Are they on the FW download page? Chyup. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/A/AchillesAlpha.pdf http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/K/Kharybdis.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I like that Kharybdis. Especially that ram. And that flame attack? Whoo-whee! You could roast a Jeff with that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The Kharydis is utter trash. Cut off 80 points and no one would blink an eyelid. Currently it is overpriced...and the melts attack doesn't look like it could cut through a ship to be honest. Disappointed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 The Kharydis is utter trash. Cut off 80 points and no one would blink an eyelid. Currently it is overpriced...and the melts attack doesn't look like it could cut through a ship to be honest. Disappointed. It is a little over pointed and over costed IMHO, but I feel like they actually had a melta attack for it and the play testers said...whoa too overpowered! Maybe if it was 180 points, and the attack was 3" S8 AP1 melta then d3" is S6 flamer attack then yeah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Me too... it seems like the Kharybdis launchers should have been blast or had access to a "krak" type warhead. They even mention it as carrying an assortment in the fluff text. At least the Achilles Alpha is awesome even at 300pts. It seems to be amazing at either anti-infantry with the stock culverins and blast grenades or awesome at anti-armor with Sunder grenades and multimeltas. If I had one, I think I'd go anti-infantry as I have plenty of meltas already... but good thing it can't take a flare shield or we'd *never* get rid of one.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Idk. The melta-blast is a giant dispersal of heat. It shouldn't be super-devastating. Also, hitting with no civer saves and hitting vehicles on their lowest armor rating, doesn't seem too bad to me. This thing is meant to get a crew into a ship. Being a flyer and an orbital-to-surface drop pod are both secondary uses and therefore shouldn't be too awe-inspiring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Idk. The melta-blast is a giant dispersal of heat. It shouldn't be super-devastating. Also, hitting with no civer saves and hitting vehicles on their lowest armor rating, doesn't seem too bad to me. This thing is meant to get a crew into a ship. Being a flyer and an orbital-to-surface drop pod are both secondary uses and therefore shouldn't be too awe-inspiring. I do think it should have the qualities of the magna melta with no cover as well, then it would be appropriate. I'm just trying to see it from FW pov where they could foresee naysayers in the 40k community saying "OMG another OP forgeworld unit! This is crap! We need more buffs to weak units like riptides and wave serpents ahdbgjfhfjdnfifnfjfjf!" Sorry I just tried strangling myself after saying those petty heretical words. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 A riptide? You mean what Macraggians call a current caught in an inlet? And a wave serpent is that ocean snake from Fenris? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yeah, maybe. But I do see this as a fluffy compromise between being a ship-to-ship boarding(not shooting too many people there) and being mundane enough in its secondary role that only the ignorant can call it OP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazzy Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 A riptide? You mean what Macraggians call a current caught in an inlet? And a wave serpent is that ocean snake from Fenris? No no brother, You're confusing the Wave Serpent with the krakens. Wave Serpents are Ithakan, Krakens are Fenrisian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 A riptide? You mean what Macraggians call a current caught in an inlet? And a wave serpent is that ocean snake from Fenris?No no brother, You're confusing the Wave Serpent with the krakens. Wave Serpents are Ithakan, Krakens are Fenrisian. Brothers of the Snake for the win! Actually, that would be an interesting concept to see someone put the beginnings of the Iron Snakes into the Ultramarines. But still, I like the Kharybdis, failings and all. I mean, that's what true love is all about right! *door kicks open* "You are under arrest for issuing the word "love" by order of the Sigillite!" BLAM BLAM "Darnit Varren! I told you not to kill him!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 That's the best way to go about this hobby, Kol! 'Well I like it' wins every time. Sweating point costs takes a lot of the uniqueness away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3572912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Well I plan on getting at LEAST one, points cost and effectiveness be damned. It's a freaking awesome model! And will look great sitting next to all my other man barbies :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3573174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What if I like actual barbies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3573229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What if I like actual barbies? Well, since I'm sure most of us like(or did like) GI Joes, Power Rangers, Batman and Superman, we probably shouldn't hold it against you, O Great Queen of Darkness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3573259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What if I like actual barbies? Indeed, you can have the Dreadclaw sat next to your actual barbies if you like. I just don't have any of them ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3573292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What if I like actual barbies? Well, now they got a pimping ride that blows that topless pink cadillac off the road like nobody's business. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3573345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What if I like actual barbies? Well, since I'm sure most of us like(or did like) GI Joes, Power Rangers, Batman and Superman, we probably shouldn't hold it against you, O Great Queen of Darkness. I want you to know I may or may not have an poster of the Megazord signed by Amy Jo Johnson and Austin St. John dated 1994... just sayin' But hey, how about that heresy? I'm actually eyeing that Achilles Alpha pretty hard. I was playing around with the math for it, being basically anti-open topped *and* immune to melta/lances makes it a freakin' rock. The only thing I can think of to crack one in a reasonable amount of time are Meltabombs (did you guys know they are "armuorbane" not "melta?" Weird...) or Chainfists. Even then, it'll be an uphill battle. I restate, thank the corpse emperor they *can't* get flare shields. I can't stop thinking about loading a terror squad of 10 guys with volkites in there. On the one hand, my logical brain tells me "that's 550 points before any sort of additional upgrades." Then the other half of my brain retorts with "screw that noise, 28 volkite shots and a rapid fire grenade cannon. WEEE!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3573361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I hate you. In a Night Lord sort of way. Yeah, that LR with a shooty Terror squad would be able to give even those Sallies a good run for their money. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/109/#findComment-3573370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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