Painting Seraphim

[ChaosLord Leon Enaek]

Greetings pious fellows!

I have recently been debating whether I should, as part of a present to my girlfriend, paint up a squad of Seraphim (for two reasons: one being the interest she has shown in my hobby; and two being that seraphim is a nickname I have used for her in the past*).

I have never played or purchased Sisters - I am waiting for the mythical 'Plastic Sisters' who will become the nemesis of my Chaos forces - and so I require your expert advice on two fronts:

•Should I get the metal Seraphim or is there an effective looking conversion that can be done?

•How would I go about painting the Order of the Sacred Rose (I think they're the ones in white armour?) - I kinda need everything: armour, cloth and red Bolter cases?

 

Thank you for your assistance :)

 

*I'm aware that seraphim is a plural of seraph. It's a long story.

[*Furyou Miko]

Not really an effective conversion to be done.

 

Has she ever shown an interest in Sisters specifically as an army or the models?

[CommissarHarris]

Unless your sclupting skills are par-excelence, there is not an effective conversion to be done. This is the best I have ever seen, but well beyond my abilities with GS.  So buy the metals. When painting white power armour, their are two methods I have tried with varying degrees of success, for simple mass model:

- Skull White basecoat

- Citadel Nuln Oil in the recesses

- Thinned Skill white to cover the visible meniscus left by the Nuln Oil.

- Black lining with thinned Chaos Black in the edges and recesses to solidify the contrast

 

Method 2

- Black Unbdercoat

- Codex Grey basecoat

- 7-9 layers of Thinned Skull white in increasingly small 'Islands' to create the shading

 

Method 2 Sends you blind. 

 

 

Enjoy

[Inquisitor Fox]

I play Sisters of the Sacred Rose myself.  What I do is this:

 

ALWAYS ALWAYS prime white.

 

Paint white over the primer on armor bits.

Apply Seraphim Sepia over the model.

"Drybrush" white back over the main portions (it's not a proper drybrush, I mean reapply lightly and carefully to leave the washed recesses but make the armor look white again)

Robes I go with black outer and red inner robes.

 

Bolter casings officially have been either red (old old version) or black (new version)

 

Pretty simple really all in all, most people get really afraid of white though :)  Some examples, the first an older conversion where I reversed the robe pattern for an HQ model (I do that for HQs, Seraphim and Celestians), then a newer organist from my Exorcist I'm working on right now.  The first example is from before I did the Seraphim Sepia thing (I need to redo it on her)

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq70/Myen_Shi/heroine.jpg

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq70/Myen_Shi/2013vow5_zps384c2fbd.jpg

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq70/Myen_Shi/2013vow6_zps9c03e334.jpg

 

Simple, right? :) I recommend buying the Seraphim models, they are really gorgeous sculpts.

[ChaosLord Leon Enaek]

She did show an interest in sisters a while back - I had to pop into a GW to pick up my mate's present and whilst I was chatting to the manager she picked up a few sororitais boxes to look at (before the staring boys freaked her out and we left).

 

Thank you both for the painting guides - I'll do some tests before buying anything, see if its worth my time painting metal seraphim or if I'll just embarrass the model.

 

Many thanks!

[*Furyou Miko]

^^ Something that wasn't mentioned above is that you must wash them in warm, soapy water and rinse afterwards before applying paint, otherwise all your work will go to waste as it just flakes off.

 

Personally, I also like to use an enamel paint undercoat rather than the acrylic spray GW sells. I find it adheres better to metal (and resin) miniatures.

[Aqui]

^^ Something that wasn't mentioned above is that you must wash them in warm, soapy water and rinse afterwards before applying paint, otherwise all your work will go to waste as it just flakes off.

Personally, I also like to use an enamel paint undercoat rather than the acrylic spray GW sells. I find it adheres better to metal (and resin) miniatures.

I sprayed my Canoness and Celestine in Skull White and they came out very well (so well, in fact that I've been petrified of going any further with them :( ). Possibly luck in my circumstance

[*Furyou Miko]

I find I have problems with the paint rubbing off when I use the GW sprays. ^^;

[Aqui]

I find I have problems with the paint rubbing off when I use the GW sprays. ^^;

I'll have to bear that in mind when I finally get around to painting them both The sprays (both Chaos Black and Skull White) have been excellent for my Rainbow Warrior army, but in their case the plastic is very different to what GW use now. Once the LPC deadline is over I'll finally get around to painting them.

Edit: INP - I might try the method you outlined for the models I have as I wasn't sure how to give white a decent "shadow".

[CommissarHarris]

I find I have problems with the paint rubbing off when I use the GW sprays. ^^;

I've never had any trouble with citadael spray paint on metal or plastic rubbing off. I have had problems with Resin, until I found halfords primer. washing is not a bad idea, I don't personally, except Forgeworld resin. That gets washed. In theory you should but, meh.

 

Metal will chip what ever you do.

[Inquisitor Fox]

Edit: INP - I might try the method you outlined for the models I have as I wasn't sure how to give white a decent "shadow".

 

I didn't used to... in fact this organ player model pictured above is the first one I tried with the new Seraphim Sepia after Vash mentioned it was what he used in his topic over here in the GK forum.  I used to do just white then get stuck, but I think the Sepia worked out really well.  I'm looking forward to going over my old jobs and improving them actually... :)  The downside to growing as a painter but still having your old models.

[Bigger-than-Jesus]

I find I have problems with the paint rubbing off when I use the GW sprays. ^^;

Try Halfords Grey Car Primer. 20% more in a can for the same price as GW, one coat usually gets everything, so no need to touch up before painting(usually), and it has the best of both black and white primer IMO.

[CommissarHarris]

 

I find I have problems with the paint rubbing off when I use the GW sprays. ^^;

Try Halfords Grey Car Primer. 20% more in a can for the same price as GW, one coat usually gets everything, so no need to touch up before painting(usually), and it has the best of both black and white primer IMO.

Is it true?

 

 

 

Are you bigger than Jesus?

[*Furyou Miko]

 

I find I have problems with the paint rubbing off when I use the GW sprays. ^^;

Try Halfords Grey Car Primer. 20% more in a can for the same price as GW, one coat usually gets everything, so no need to touch up before painting(usually), and it has the best of both black and white primer IMO.

 

Thanks, I'll try it when I can. ^^ The enamels work pretty well too, but it's a pain in the asterisks to hand-undercoat every model.

[derpasaurus]

A lot of my models have not even really been "primed" as such. I pretty much just do a base coat of boltgun/leadbelcher/whatever it is now, then I do a shade of chainmail or whatnot, then a black wash, then a highlight/drybrush of mithril. Everything goes on smooth and easy, and so far has stayed on perfectly. I don't know why, but washing the models has never really occurred to me. May try that with my next batch and see if I notice anything different.