Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Actually in Vulkan Lives there is a Morlock who does not have Terminator armor. In fact, his role in the story is that of a sniper . Of course that might be a misinterpretation by Nick Kyme as in one point of the story, he does refer to Curze as the Prince of Crows, which is Sevatar's title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Judging by the average-poor quality of Feat of Iron, Promethean Sun and what I've read so far of Vulkan Lives, I'd be inclined to say it's a mistake on Nick Kyme's behalf. Unless the event you're referring to is set after Istvaan V, in which case it could possibly be a Morlock whose Terminator Armour was damaged beyond repair so he had to make do with a suit of Power Armour. Although if this was the case, it surely would have been mentioned in the story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Just to add to the argument that all Morlocks are Terminators, Alan Bligh said the following when describing the new Gorgon Terminator unit at the Heresy Weekender: "All Morlocks are Gorgon Terminators, but not all Gorgon Terminators are Morlocks" So he is saying that all Morlocks wear Terminator Armour (and conform to the rules of the Gorgon Terminator special unit that is going to feature in Horus Heresy Vol.2: Massacre), but there are also Terminators from other Clan Companies that are also considered to be Gorgon Terminators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hmm, so the Morlocks arestrictly te Terminator elite, regardless of the Clan of origin. One thing to consider though is that perhaps the Morlock's TDA was damaged and was then replaced with a suit of PA. And due to him having received training as a sniper, he then took that role. Just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hmm, so the Morlocks arestrictly te Terminator elite, regardless of the Clan of origin. One thing to consider though is that perhaps the Morlock's TDA was damaged and was then replaced with a suit of PA. And due to him having received training as a sniper, he then took that role. It was something that I had considered - but if that was the case, surely Nick Kyme would have mentioned it when describing him in the novel? The Morlocks are a Terminator Elite - they are the personal bodyguard of Lord Manus. However, the Morlocks only come from Clan Avernii and no other Clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The Morlocks are a Terminator Elite - they are the personal bodyguard of Lord Manus. I hope they had another gig lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The Morlocks are a Terminator Elite - they are the personal bodyguard of Lord Manus. I hope they had another gig lined up. Oh snap. Seriously though with FW's release of the SoH command and Contemptor models I'm really considering painting a small force for Istvaan V. The Reavers were good looking but the Commander and Standard Bearer really take it up another notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hmm, so the Morlocks arestrictly te Terminator elite, regardless of the Clan of origin. One thing to consider though is that perhaps the Morlock's TDA was damaged and was then replaced with a suit of PA. And due to him having received training as a sniper, he then took that role. It was something that I had considered - but if that was the case, surely Nick Kyme would have mentioned it when describing him in the novel? The Morlocks are a Terminator Elite - they are the personal bodyguard of Lord Manus. However, the Morlocks only come from Clan Avernii and no other Clan. Not necessarily. If it has no bearing on the story, it might be omitted, like whether or not the vessel Vulkan was kept on was a hulk that was gutted to house the prison or if it was built with the prison in mind. Neither can make or break the story, just small, personal points of curiosity that may or may not affect our view of the entire novel. Personally, I don't find it a deal breaker. It is possible that later on, a short story might be published to explain it as some earlier events are eluded to in the story, but to my knowledge have yet to be published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hey, sorry to bust up the Morlock / termie chat - quick question re. mini's. One of my WE termies has a marine helmet on his base; mk5. These guys are heresy era, but I figure they may have been dossing in the eye for a non-determined amount of realtime/time and therefore could be fighting post heresy marines... so I was thinking ultras (cos EVERYBODY hates them lol) but have you guys any better ideas? Maybe something nice and contrasting - imperial fist maybe?? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hey, sorry to bust up the Morlock / termie chat - quick question re. mini's. One of my WE termies has a marine helmet on his base; mk5. These guys are heresy era, but I figure they may have been dossing in the eye for a non-determined amount of realtime/time and therefore could be fighting post heresy marines... so I was thinking ultras (cos EVERYBODY hates them lol) but have you guys any better ideas? Maybe something nice and contrasting - imperial fist maybe?? cheers Ultras fits as they fought them during the heresy in Betrayer anyway. The Ultramarines are supplied by so many forgeworlds that a MK V helmet on his base fits the story anyway. The Fists helmet fits as well if you want the yellow and that's what I would go with. They fought the World Eaters at the siege of Terra so that fits the fluff as well. If you are modeling them specifically for Istvaan V, I would recommend Salamanders. Green would make a nice contrast to the blue and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 With WEs, it could be anyone, even another WE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Cheers guys. I think for contrast I'll either do fist or salamander - that's a good call. I'll post some pics sooooon...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 hey Jaspcat, just to be clear. the bases need to be Dark earthy type right. I am looking forward to this! you started something awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 dark tones rubble ruin ash waste as long as its a blasted battlefield its fine. no green no shrubs. istvaan v was devoid of all life and greenery. brother its good to have you, I think though that this thread will need an overhaul soon. I think ill set a 1000point minimum for participation. pretty simple to accomplish, 2 troop squads w/transports, 1 HQ minimum. what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 that could work, but it may take me a bit to get that(not being made of money and all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Yeah that's cool brother :) no pressure. I guess sometime this week ill recreate the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 The Morlocks are a Terminator Elite - they are the personal bodyguard of Lord Manus. I hope they had another gig lined up. They didn't - they were almost entirely wiped out at Istvaan V. Only a handful have so far been reported to have survived. I think though that this thread will need an overhaul soon. I think ill set a 1000point minimum for participation. pretty simple to accomplish, 2 troop squads w/transports, 1 HQ minimum. what do you think? Sounds good to me. I've got my 2 x 20-Man Tac Squads which are finished. I'm currently working on 3 x Hvy Conversion Beamer Predators. That takes me to 1030pts. After that I've got a Centurion, a Contemptor Deadnaught,15 x Cataphractii Terminators, and a bunch of other infantry squads to put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Not necessarily. If it has no bearing on the story, it might be omitted, like whether or not the vessel Vulkan was kept on was a hulk that was gutted to house the prison or if it was built with the prison in mind. Neither can make or break the story, just small, personal points of curiosity that may or may not affect our view of the entire novel. Personally, I don't find it a deal breaker. It is possible that later on, a short story might be published to explain it as some earlier events are eluded to in the story, but to my knowledge have yet to be published. I'd say that something as important as a Morlock not wearing Terminator Armour is a very important story point - unless the author has no idea that Morlocks only wear Terminator armour.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Not really. I wasn't overly bothered by it. Then again, I wasn't overly bothered by a group of Night Lords who didn't own a single jump pack between them all in one novel. And I'm a Night Lord fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 hey Jaspcat. why not just Start a Istvaan 2.0 thread(or what ever) I am currrently getting bit's together for some test sallies. I also have a legion dreadnought talon in the works. so when you start a new or restart this, i am in. all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 and yes I have decided I quite like the 1000pt minimum. but maybe that(and basing) being the the only restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aves Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 would like to take on the Raven Guard, Jaspcat... lemme know if I'm accepted mate and I'll show my current progress... cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I think though that this thread will need an overhaul soon. I think ill set a 1000point minimum for participation. pretty simple to accomplish, 2 troop squads w/transports, 1 HQ minimum. what do you think? I like this idea - might make me press on with my tac marines... I'm up to 6 completed; 4 to go! So far I have 1 tac squad (that will be two when I have the funds), 5 cataphractii termies, 5 tartaros termies and a 5 man jump squad... more goodies on their way from FW! only about 30% painted of this lot though; of course with grey rubble bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ive a Dropsite Massacre themed Angron @ home, I'll put up a pic when I get home. Also just finished assembling Fulgrim, painting to start soonish..... Cheers, Jono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Quick update prior to Istvaan 2.0; here are my two practically finished cataphractii. They're both magnetized so can be run as shown or with bolters, bolter melta or bolter plasma and powerfists or a chainfist... I like the lightning claw look though, so he'll stay like this for now! http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/llltomlll/yer%20im%20a%20geek/IMG_1697x_zps9af4ba21.jpg Champion, heavy weap and the other guy still to paint. I'm so slow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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