Stercus Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Ok, I'm not meaning to have a pop at GW's designers here, but I have a gripe with the new marines. I think the new tactical squad, sternguard, and vanguard are great, but seriously do we need the stupid wires running around the ankle joint? It may seem like a silly thing to be annoyed by, but no one designing any kind of combat armour would include an inbuilt trip hazard. The number of hours I've spent shaving those little beggars off over the years are an endless source of frustration and near-despair. I know a lot if people think the centurions are a bad design, but I can deal with them; It's just genetically engineered supermen honestly believing that the finest armour humanity's scientists should contain a hard wired banana skin that I have difficulty with. Right. Rant over, I'm just off to pre-order a codex, two boxes of new tactical marines, some sternguard and a whole load of new blades for my shaving knife. :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Totally agree, though the new minis look to be standing straight now, my biggest peeve. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3442302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Volsung- Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Damn, how do you even file that off without ruining the whole lower leg? I can imagine how much of a pain that would be. I personally like that wire. Helps create contrast and break up the color. On the other hand, I hate it when there's a purity seal there. You'd think they'd fall off after the first jump/dash/kick Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3442547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durus Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 To venture a guess, looking at the sprues (old and new), the purity seals and wires are there to avoid undercuts in the miniatures. So it's less of a design choice and more of a technical requirement due to the way the molds are cut. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3442562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Always hated the damned purity seals. At least only half of the new kit has them. And at least there are actually 10 different legs in the kit, as opposed to 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3442571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 The new variety in parts seems like a good move. It will be nice not to have to cut, repose and fill legs to get ten different styles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3442665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I do hate the wiring on their feet, but not enough to go through and remove them all :D I was watching Ironman the other day and thought the same of Jeff Bridges' armor with all of its exposed hydraulics and what-not. On the other hand, I love purity seals as it helps break up the color on a model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3442669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 I was looking through my army the other day to pack up for a house move, and I spotted a hideous foot wire on a tac trooper I'd missed. Made me swear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3442914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I was looking through my army the other day to pack up for a house move, and I spotted a hideous foot wire on a tac trooper I'd missed. Made me swear. I just moved from San Diego, CA to Las Vegas, NV...... packing up miniatures sucks right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3442954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Sucks like an over enthusiastic dyson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3444341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 My biggest issue is the leg poses they once again feel static. I would love for more dynamic poses Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3444402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 I've never really minded the static poses. I quite like my marines to look unmovable, like they will keep shooting you til they run out of ammo. When I want a bit of dynamism, I just mix in a few assault squad legs. Kit bashing is my friend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3445611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 My biggest issue is the leg poses they once again feel static. I would love for more dynamic posesAssault marines? The tactical squad have a 'holding ground' pose. Throwing one or two 'running' legs would look odd in that squad, where the rest are stationary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3447522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 My biggest issue is the leg poses they once again feel static. I would love for more dynamic posesAssault marines? The tactical squad have a 'holding ground' pose. Throwing one or two 'running' legs would look odd in that squad, where the rest are stationary. Actually peppering one or two walking and/or running legs into a squad of mostly standing models looks quite nice, if posed well. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3447613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Yep I frequently mix up the legs (like the old 2nd ed combat squad/warriors of the imperium box) My biggest gripe is the bolters attached to the hands, its really annoying for folk like me who will have to cut them off to paint them (rather than painting a whole arm separate) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3447704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 My biggest issue is the leg poses they once again feel static. I would love for more dynamic posesAssault marines? The tactical squad have a 'holding ground' pose. Throwing one or two 'running' legs would look odd in that squad, where the rest are stationary. I'm all about the assault legs, they're 'Tactical' Marines, not civil war infantry or guardsmen, they adapt, they move, they're dynamic. That's a Marine greatest strength, the ability to remain in constant motion despite being under a massive volume of enemy fire. Hence what makes them a rapid strike force, regardless of codex doctrine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3447708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Yep I frequently mix up the legs (like the old 2nd ed combat squad/warriors of the imperium box) My biggest gripe is the bolters attached to the hands, its really annoying for folk like me who will have to cut them off to paint them (rather than painting a whole arm separate) Those second ed marine legs are great if you are modeling a marine that's :cussting in the woods. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3447789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Yep I frequently mix up the legs (like the old 2nd ed combat squad/warriors of the imperium box) My biggest gripe is the bolters attached to the hands, its really annoying for folk like me who will have to cut them off to paint them (rather than painting a whole arm separate) Its more annoying to me because it means less bolters I can use for random sire projects, like a small rack of bolters for an ammunition cache, or a guy who has his bolter mag-locked to his armor because he's busy smashing in skulls. Oh well, I do have a whole bunch of the old bolters lying around so for some time at least It'll work out somehow. Do like the new Combi-weapon bits they have, of course would prefer if they just did it the sterguard kit way and just have one full combi-weapon of each kind, not having to just pick one and convert the rest yourself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3447849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Do like the new Combi-weapon bits they have, of course would prefer if they just did it the sterguard kit way and just have one full combi-weapon of each kind, not having to just pick one and convert the rest yourself. I wondered about that myself! I guessed is was to stop players just buying a Tac Squad and painting them as Vets and saying they are Sternguard (which they would be, of course). Doing it the multi-part way forces the players to just have one combi-weapon per set. However, since they all stick to the top of a bolter, and you get ten Bolters in the set anyway, it's pretty easy to make the other three if you want them. It therefore came across to me a a bit petty! Generally, I like the expanded options a lot though, and only wish that there were some Bolters with no hands attached. Likewise, I wish that the special weapons came hands-free too. BTW, did anybody else spot the little shell casing ornaments? I think they're a nice little nod towards the Marksman honour. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3448819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skawolf Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The multi-part combi set doesn't bother me. I have been kit bashing combi-weapons for so many years now that I am excited at all these new bits. It's going to cost me a lot less $$ now for my combi-weapon addiction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3448999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The only power armor model I've seen that I've not been able to find something wrong with is Shadowsun from the Tau range. I'd like to have a 40k space marine army with that kind of aesthetics for power armor, something like an Alternate History (Dornian Heresy Ultramarines?) Except the Grey Knights. The grey knights are awesome because they have wrist mounted storm bolters (even though reloading must be a pain...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3453614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Yep, not to thread jack, but i alwaysbthoughtvthatvtoo, looks interesting :P http://angelsofbaal.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/mechanicus/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3453693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Yep, not to thread jack, but i alwaysbthoughtvthatvtoo, looks interesting http://angelsofbaal.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/mechanicus/ Gangnam style? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma1wafniaA1rbonrno1_500.gif Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3461396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.k.i.t.t.l.e Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Yep, not to thread jack, but i alwaysbthoughtvthatvtoo, looks interesting http://angelsofbaal.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/mechanicus/ Gangnam style? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma1wafniaA1rbonrno1_500.gif Hahahahahahaha. That made me giggle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3461461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Firepower, on 01 Sept 2013 - 09:20, said: Always hated the damned purity seals. You are... impure Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/279253-new-tactical-squad-are-great-apart-from-the-feet/#findComment-3461541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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