blackoption Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 A question for the brethren of Fenris. Which shoulder would a grey hunter put his deathwatch honors after returning home to his great company? Would he replace his great company's badge or would he replace his park markings? I am starting to paint wolves and I've decided on Bran Redmaw. I'd like to have a sprinkling (probably no more than 3) Deathwatch veterans amongst the packs (One Long Fang, one Grey Hunter, and one Wolf Guard.) How have you shown deathwatch veterans amongst your packs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 A question for the brethren of Fenris. Which shoulder would a grey hunter put his deathwatch honors after returning home to his great company? Would he replace his great company's badge or would he replace his park markings? I am starting to paint wolves and I've decided on Bran Redmaw. I'd like to have a sprinkling (probably no more than 3) Deathwatch veterans amongst the packs (One Long Fang, one Grey Hunter, and one Wolf Guard.) How have you shown deathwatch veterans amongst your packs? http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277870-deathwatch/?do=findComment&comment=3411591 Either side is acceptable, really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3470641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share Posted September 21, 2013 I appreciate the link. The discussion is mostly based on active serving deathwatch marines and not the veterans of the deathwatch, but Growler's post was helpful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3470656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I like this guy: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3471339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 That is the pick I was going for my inspiration... but I do not think deathwatch marine keep the black color when they return to their great company Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3471585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Volsung- Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 The way I painted my Deathwatch brother (if I ever have time, I'll finish him and take a pic) was that I put his Deathwatch pad on his right shoulder, gave him the red-cased Deathwatch Hesh-pattern Boltgun, and kept his helmet painted black with the red Inquisitorial =][= on it. The way it's portrayed on the cover of Blood of Asaheim has the marine wearing the Inquisitorial pad on his right side as a mark of honor for his service. But the way I envisioned my Deathwatch marine is that his service only made him despise the Inquisition even more, so the right shoulder pad is the Deathwatch pad, but his pack marking is painted over it in blatant disregard of the Inquisitorial iconography. The helmet he kept painted black to honor his fellow multi-chapter brothers who had died in thankless service to the Ordo Xenos. The little red =][= becomes a small mark of shame hinting at his shadowy past. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3471984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Volsung- Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 A question for the brethren of Fenris. Which shoulder would a grey hunter put his deathwatch honors after returning home to his great company? Would he replace his great company's badge or would he replace his park markings? I am starting to paint wolves and I've decided on Bran Redmaw. I'd like to have a sprinkling (probably no more than 3) Deathwatch veterans amongst the packs (One Long Fang, one Grey Hunter, and one Wolf Guard.) How have you shown deathwatch veterans amongst your packs? I would say, as a fluff advice, my opinion would be to have only one ex-Deathwatch brother. The way I reason it is that a brother trained by the deathwatch is likely as rare if not rarer than a techmarine (for normal chapters), minus the specialized duties a techmarine would have. Likely, you'd probably only see one or two, and plus, having one helps build narrative. Three's a crowd, they'll cramp each other's style Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3471990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 A question for the brethren of Fenris. Which shoulder would a grey hunter put his deathwatch honors after returning home to his great company? Would he replace his great company's badge or would he replace his park markings? I am starting to paint wolves and I've decided on Bran Redmaw. I'd like to have a sprinkling (probably no more than 3) Deathwatch veterans amongst the packs (One Long Fang, one Grey Hunter, and one Wolf Guard.) How have you shown deathwatch veterans amongst your packs? I would say, as a fluff advice, my opinion would be to have only one ex-Deathwatch brother. The way I reason it is that a brother trained by the deathwatch is likely as rare if not rarer than a techmarine (for normal chapters), minus the specialized duties a techmarine would have. Likely, you'd probably only see one or two, and plus, having one helps build narrative. Three's a crowd, they'll cramp each other's style I can see your point. Though I figured with how large a great company is, there might have more than 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3472924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 you could always use a kneepad to show his ex-deathwatchness... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3472931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordKejl Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Deathwatch marines that return to their chapters are allowed and often do keep their silver colored left arm and the deathwatch shoulder pad on the marine's left shoulder. In one of the lastest books, Blood of Asaheim, the Space Wolf only wears a talisman with the "I" upon it and returns to his chapter colors on both shoulder pads. Which sounds more likely for a Space Wolf. That book has great insights to the way the Deathwatch changes a marine, and especially the Space Wolf that was in the unit. BUT, you should paint the marine the way you like it. Space Wolves aren't all that well known for following any doctrine. And is the paint job or idea for you, or for spectators looking at your army. If its for you, do what you want. if you want it to stand out, make it more appealing and visible to the eye. Ive actually thought about making one of my lone wolves a Death Watch Space Wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3473082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 A question for the brethren of Fenris. Which shoulder would a grey hunter put his deathwatch honors after returning home to his great company? Would he replace his great company's badge or would he replace his park markings? I am starting to paint wolves and I've decided on Bran Redmaw. I'd like to have a sprinkling (probably no more than 3) Deathwatch veterans amongst the packs (One Long Fang, one Grey Hunter, and one Wolf Guard.) How have you shown deathwatch veterans amongst your packs? I would say, as a fluff advice, my opinion would be to have only one ex-Deathwatch brother. The way I reason it is that a brother trained by the deathwatch is likely as rare if not rarer than a techmarine (for normal chapters), minus the specialized duties a techmarine would have. Likely, you'd probably only see one or two, and plus, having one helps build narrative. Three's a crowd, they'll cramp each other's style Agreed. Don't put more than one on the table at a time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3473091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Volsung- Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Most importantly, you're gonna want your marine to have one of these boltguns: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1183520_99110101367_BitzDeathwatchConversionMain_873x627.jpg The Hesh-pattern bolter, according to the Fantasy Flight sourcebook, is the iconic gun used by all Deathwatch marines. I believe the weapon is only piece of Deathwatch-issued equipment a Deathwatch brother is allowed to keep after his service is over (and one hell of a souvenir it is) Also, judging from images of painted Deathwatch marines, the Hesh bolter casing is painted red. That alone should make your deathwatch brother stand out from his squad if his peers all have black-casing guns. The Hesh bolter is to the deathwatch what a lightsaber is to a jedi. There's no where else you could reasonably acquire one, and it is unlikely that it would be gifted, traded, or sold. http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1183515_99110101367_BitzDeathwatchConversion1_873x627.jpg http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1184231_99111399002_INQArtemisMain_873x627.jpg Also note the crested Tomb-king style skull icon on the left elbow pad. I see that on almost all images of deathwatch marines. If theres any way to sculpt or assemble one, that also would be a very distinguishing mark of a deathwatch marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3473139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Dang. This thread is making me want to add a Deathwatch Veteran to my army now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280687-deathwatch-veteran-markings/#findComment-3473191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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