Vlk Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Sooo the Codex Inquisition is out (and available in epub format) - what´s your take on it? I, for one, really hate the fact that Coteaz can now be basically in almost every freakin´ army and wherever he is Batlle Brothers with the primary detachment, my Drop Pod Wolves will probably just get screwed. If this cancer spreads to my local meta, I guess I´ll have to only start playing against armies without allies again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBasser Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 From what I've read, it sounds like they are battle brothers to just about everyone. This includes Space Wolves. So you can have even more HQs. 4 Space Wolves, 2 Codex Inquisition, and 1 from Allied Detachment (Since Inquisition takes up their own FoC.) The relic Liber Heresius can be used to give a unit Split-Fire once per game, which Long Fangs have already. However, with a squad of Jokaero to sit with the Inquisitor, you can have another unit split-firing up to 12 Lascannons. Re-Rolls if the Inquisitor is a psyker with Divination, which Rune Priests can also grab. Not to mention, you can take Valkyries as transports for the Henchmen. While not as good as the Vendetta, it adds a flyer to Space Wolves. With how Daemons are playing out right now, I can see Space Wolves/Grey Knights with Inquisition being experimented with on the table. I haven't ran the points, but something like 4 Rune Priests, Coteaz in GK Detachment, and 2 ML1 Inquisitors, Stormraven, Two Valkyries, Two Missile Long Fang Squads, One 12 Jokaros (GK to score back objective), Two 3-4 Jokaero Squads, 2 Grey Hunter Squads. Sprinkle in anything else points will allow. Not sure Stormraven or Valkyries are needed with all the re-rolling to hits and Str 7-9 shots between Lascannons, Missiles, and Living Lightning.So, things can get rather silly. I'll be honest, I was thinking about starting a new army like the one above. Just some Daemon Hunting specialists, that get called in when there's a high number of Daemons in the area. Points seem like they can get out of hand quickly. Once I get points to a 1850 list, it might be my next project. Currently I have Daemons and CSM, so why not something to take them down? Sorry if I just proved your original point. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 From what I've read, it sounds like they are battle brothers to just about everyone. This includes Space Wolves. So you can have even more HQs. 4 Space Wolves, 2 Codex Inquisition, and 1 from Allied Detachment (Since Inquisition takes up their own FoC.) The relic Liber Heresius can be used to give a unit Split-Fire once per game, which Long Fangs have already. However, with a squad of Jokaero to sit with the Inquisitor, you can have another unit split-firing up to 12 Lascannons. Re-Rolls if the Inquisitor is a psyker with Divination, which Rune Priests can also grab. Not to mention, you can take Valkyries as transports for the Henchmen. While not as good as the Vendetta, it adds a flyer to Space Wolves. With how Daemons are playing out right now, I can see Space Wolves/Grey Knights with Inquisition being experimented with on the table. I haven't ran the points, but something like 4 Rune Priests, Coteaz in GK Detachment, and 2 ML1 Inquisitors, Stormraven, Two Valkyries, Two Missile Long Fang Squads, One 12 Jokaros (GK to score back objective), Two 3-4 Jokaero Squads, 2 Grey Hunter Squads. Sprinkle in anything else points will allow. Not sure Stormraven or Valkyries are needed with all the re-rolling to hits and Str 7-9 shots between Lascannons, Missiles, and Living Lightning. So, things can get rather silly. I'll be honest, I was thinking about starting a new army like the one above. Just some Daemon Hunting specialists, that get called in when there's a high number of Daemons in the area. Points seem like they can get out of hand quickly. Once I get points to a 1850 list, it might be my next project. Currently I have Daemons and CSM, so why not something to take them down? Sorry if I just proved your original point. . . You did. But who could blame ya, this is apparently what GW wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Am I the only one who hates that the book encourages 6th Legion armies to bring along Coteaz for cheap scoring, despite the animosity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigvard Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Am I the only who thinks the idea of the Wolves of Fenris working with Inquisition is not only ridiculous but also a slight against the Great Wolf himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 Am I the only who thinks the idea of the Wolves of Fenris working with Inquisition is not only ridiculous but also a slight against the Great Wolf himself? You´re definitely not. Allying with the Inquisition is nothing but travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Am I the only who thinks the idea of the Wolves of Fenris working with Inquisition is not only ridiculous but also a slight against the Great Wolf himself? You´re definitely not. Allying with the Inquisition is nothing but travesty. Circumstances dictate action. Working alongside the Inquisition may sound ridiculous to the new, but our past histories/sagas have shown us working and fighting alongside some of the more open-minded or unorthodox Inquisitors. Those who are so quickly and eager to assume in what the Great Wolf might or might not feel towards the tactical advantages in a theater of war is missing the wisdom that comes with age. At the end of the day, the wolves know the truth... a truth that is blinded or misguided by those who abuse the name of what the Allfather wished and fought for so long ago. Which we as a chapter still fight for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigvard Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Is my history incorrect, did they not seek to bring war to skies of Fenris and censure to the chapter, the Inquisition and servants the Red Hunters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Is my history incorrect, did they not seek to bring war to skies of Fenris and censure to the chapter, the Inquisition and servants the Red Hunters? The problem with history is people tend to focus only on one subject or an event, whereas history in general has many and several events. Your history is not incorrect, however your history is merely incomplete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Space Wolves hate what the Inquisition does to the citizens of the Imperium in the name of the Emperor. These upstarts think they preach his word when they say worship him through the Ecclesiarchy. The issue is, as Bjorn himself said in the book, "Battle of the Fang," the past is the past. Now a days, in the 41st Millenium, the issue is, the big = I = tends to figure it has the only working order playbook in existence. Problem is, they haven't innovated any real new ways of doing things, and are likely stagnating and only showing the enemy that they have no teeth left as they are worn down and their tactics known to said enemy. Take the current situation with a good tankard of your favorite alcohol, knowing that we always strive, and the Inquisition has apparently only learned how to condemn whole portions of innocents to a shared fate as others for they are not a scalpel, but a hammer. The analogy is concerning to me, these days. Hammers can drive nails, or be used to bloody the foe. Problem is, even a holy artifact can one day fail; I do honestly hope the Inquisition has a plan for this besides the wholesale self genocide of Humanity. /end rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Is my history incorrect, did they not seek to bring war to skies of Fenris and censure to the chapter, the Inquisition and servants the Red Hunters? yet didn't the space wolves also risk open war to allow an inquisitor to escape? was fenris not partially saved because of the inquisitor traveling along with ragnar? history as it is now is already full of travesties. think what travesties 40 millenia can produce! i'm sure space wolves would have no problem joining up with an inquisitor, especially if the inquisitor in question show to be "humane" and honourfull according to fenrisian traditions. would we let them know about our secrets and rituals, most likely not. would we trust a honourfull inquisitor? sure! some space marine commanders have shown to be less reliable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 @hendrik gahh... LOL *pads Hendrix hard on he back* wolf brother I wanted these whelps to do their own homework and learn from there. Oh well it can't be helped. *passes ale* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Am I the only who thinks the idea of the Wolves of Fenris working with Inquisition is not only ridiculous but also a slight against the Great Wolf himself? Were not against all inquisitors, just the ones who put their own agendas over the health of the people of the imperium, who betray honor for security. Some inquisitors are welcomes on Fenris, and we work with them as we need to- such as the first war for Armageddon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I thought you would all be happy from a tabletop pespective. You can now bring super cheap and effective flyers to the table with minimal allied expense! Eg: Basic Inquisitor 3x Acolytes (3 dudes is only 12 points!) + Valkyrie 3x Acolytes + Valkyrie Not to mention Coteaz is an amazingly effective hq. ...as for fluff, the space wolves could still be ordered to fight for an Inquisitor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropped my axe Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I thought you would all be happy from a tabletop pespective. You can now bring super cheap and effective flyers to the table with minimal allied expense!Not to mention Coteaz is an amazingly effective hq....as for fluff, the space wolves could still be ordered to fight for an Inquisitor... "Emperors Gift" there wwere the douche inquistors and also the Fenrisian inquisitor so 50/50 on trust for the inquistion As for Coteaz, its becuase he is an amazing HQ choice and cheap for what he does and can be thrown into any imperial army now with almost nil downside that has gotten some people annoyed. Like an IG player hiding behind an ageis line with him in the middle allowing any unit he is attached to free shooting against those drop pods a lot of SW players like to run. im just glad theres no vindicare assassins in the new dex tanks dont last long enough as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 no vindicare assassins?? Are there any individual assassins at all? (ie bar the deathcult squads?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Nope just death cult. @ dropped my axe- any idea where I might learn more about this fenrisian inquisitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Nope just death cult. @ dropped my axe- any idea where I might learn more about this fenrisian inquisitor? All the info we have is in Emperor's gift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 cortez and an normal inq . two divination casters and two valks to give wolfs semi ok flyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 cortez and an normal inq . two divination casters and two valks to give wolfs semi ok flyers. You can kit the Valkyries out with a Lascannon and Psybolt Ammo for the Heavy Bolter sponsons.... makes them in to great flyers for only 130 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exark Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 cortez and an normal inq . two divination casters and two valks to give wolfs semi ok flyers. You can kit the Valkyries out with a Lascannon and Psybolt Ammo for the Heavy Bolter sponsons.... makes them in to great flyers for only 130 points. Regrettably, they can't take psybolt ammo (don't have access to vehicle upgrades), if only though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan230 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I thought you would all be happy from a tabletop pespective. You can now bring super cheap and effective flyers to the table with minimal allied expense! Eg: Basic Inquisitor 3x Acolytes (3 dudes is only 12 points!) + Valkyrie 3x Acolytes + Valkyrie Not to mention Coteaz is an amazingly effective hq. ...as for fluff, the space wolves could still be ordered to fight for an Inquisitor... If you think the Rout can be ordered to do anything, you haven't been spending enough time around the Aett. Go home to your Codex, we have no need of it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropped my axe Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I thought you would all be happy from a tabletop pespective. You can now bring super cheap and effective flyers to the table with minimal allied expense! Eg: Basic Inquisitor 3x Acolytes (3 dudes is only 12 points!) + Valkyrie 3x Acolytes + Valkyrie Not to mention Coteaz is an amazingly effective hq. ...as for fluff, the space wolves could still be ordered to fight for an Inquisitor... If you think the Rout can be ordered to do anything, you haven't been spending enough time around the Aett. Go home to your Codex, we have no need of it here. The Inquistional order will be in writing...... the guy giving that order to the wolves will in fact be asking very very nicely for a favour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjgarces Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Some Space Wolves go with Ordo Xeno's Deathwacth, they serve to the big =I= painting his armour in black and showing the SW badge. After that they return to The Fang, painting his armour grey but the =I= mark in his right ¿or left ? shoulder pad. I think that Ordo Xenos and Malleus can be "compatible" with wolves in some missions. Witch Hunters are other story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropped my axe Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Probably stay away from witch hunters.... Mark of the wulfen and all :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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