Tallarn Executioner

[GhostMalone]

I enjoyed it but I'll admit it's derailed since nemesis....

 

I'd love more on the Martian civil war more on Signnus (as I feel it couldn't just be one novel as there's like 2years missing)

 

Maybe even go back and look at some more pre heresy stories touching base on the first legion and others that haven't really had a chance to shine.

 

And give the death guard a proper book

[SteelPaladin]

If anything the series has gotten more focused as of late. We have had two Primarchs ascend to daemonhood, and The Unremembered Empire just tied up a dozen plot threads in one book... If that is not advancing the story then I do not know what is.

 

I know that its easy to dismiss Tallarn: Executioner as more silly Alpha Legion nonsense, but it really is a great story. It is definitely not your typical Alpha Legion story, if there is such a thing.

[Conn Eremon]

If the Alpha Legion are involved, there needs to be plotting go on, and schemes within schemes. It's just something many authors have had difficulty portraying well, to the point where many of us instinctively cringe when we hear about it. But it is an integral part of their character, and needs to be present. Anything else would be as out of place as a World Eater book without blood being shed or a White Scars book that isn't the Mongolian rip-off of the Fast and the Furious.

 

Tony Jaa plays Vin Diesel's character, but they keep Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson.

[Kol Saresk]

Actually, I wouldnt mind seeing a well-written, straightfoward Alpha Legion fight.

[Conn Eremon]

Considering the way they seem to think, a straight forward fight would be to them a scheme.

 

"We landed on Karakos III, laid siege to their capital and broke the back of their military within the ashes of the Castlo Plains. They knew the Alpha Legion was coming, so a simple fight was the last thing they expected."

[Kol Saresk]

No.

[Conn Eremon]

No . . . What?

 

No, they're not the scheming type? Everything I've read or seen says they are.

 

No, they wouldn't have straight-forward fights? You just said it'd be nice to read a well-written depiction of that, and I don't see why being the archetypal schemer faction would preclude plain ol' fisticuffs.

[Kol Saresk]

Considering the way they seem to think, a straight forward fight would be to them a scheme.

 

"We landed on Karakos III, laid siege to their capital and broke the back of their military within the ashes of the Castlo Plains. They knew the Alpha Legion was coming, so a simple fight was the last thing they expected."

This no.

 

Straight forward as in straight forward. Not "we decided to go straight forward because they expected scheming so we schemed to give them a surprise."

[Conn Eremon]

Well, it kind of boils down to the way their minds seem to work, as it's been portrayed so far. A matter of perspective.

 

What's that phrase? If all you have is a hammer, all your problems start looking like nails?

 

Pretty sure I butchered it, but that's how the Alpha Legion seem to operate. Being a Legion skillful at scheming, preferring that tactic, even things that ultimately aren't schemes appear that way to themselves. The joking example I used, to use it again as an example, could be a campaign where that is all that's required, and they know it, but that way of thinking is still present.

 

Let's compare to the Ultramarines. They plot campaigns by exploring and proving Theoreticals to come up with efficient Practicals, which are enacted. You could say it would be nice if they had a straight up fight that didn't involve scientific experiments, but that isn't the way they think. It is a straight-forward fight, but their perceptions and approach are in keeping with their character.

 

The Alpha Legion seem to be a lot like that. They plan campaigns as fluid actions where their full maximum force can be applied with little to no potential enemy counters. While a fight would still be straightforward, to their way of thinking it could be seen as a series of ploys. Feints, maneuvers, retreats, assaults, etc etc can all be seen as elements of a scheme. They could end up coming up with identical plans as the Ultramarines, but the perspectives of the two would be different for those same plans.

 

That doesn't mean that the Alpha Legion is all "Everyday I'm twirlin'." Just that their perspective has an evident theme that runs through it and is apparent in every action depicted, just like all of the other Legions.

[Olis]

Just got mine. So much for being favoured by distance. :P

 

I suppose it makes up for getting the Collected Visons earlier than many. :rolleyes:

[GhostMalone]

:P

 

Hated you for that

[Captain Semper]

Just received the book! :) ill be reading it straight through the weekend!

[Excessus]

Since it was originally an Alpha Legion tank battle on Tallarn, I like the fact that they decided to include them in the story!

 

...though now I am pissed that there is an Alpha Legion book I can't read... :(

[Durfast Spiritwolf]

Just received the book! ill be reading it straight through the weekend!

Likewise

[Foghost]

Hello Everyone,

 

me from Russia and I need yr good help if possible.

We have a problem here - our local publisher suspended it's relations with Black Library for unknown period of time. So we don't have any books officially translated and published in russian.

I'm translating this novel by myself. To share it with russian wh40k fan community. Because there are number of people who do not know english well enough to read books in original. It's absolutelly free of charge project. I will not earn any money. It'ls free for anyone.

I have the text of novel. But I don't have additional pages (pictures). I found some in Internet (4):

"Silence" story - 1 page

time line - 2 pages

Jurnian 701 structure - 1 page

 

but only story of "Silence" can be read completely, other photos are not complete.

I know it's not critical for my task, but i'd like to make it good.

So if anyone can send me this pages pls contact me.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Inquisitor Kravin]

"The inclusion of a certain third party will probably upset a few people"

 

I'm going to go out on a limb here and, without spoilers, guess that you are referring to the Alpha Legion. I hope that the reality is that it is a Raven Guard masquerading as an Alpha Legion.

[Praetor of Calth]

Does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that the crew of the Sispheyium (sp?) will turn up in part2? There is definatley more to be told with their story, following the Iron Warriors would seem like a smooth way to wrap up their story arc while providing a nod to earlier background which had Iron Hands at Tallarn. Just a thought.

[Foghost]

Hey,

can anyone help me&

 

I found out that I need a liitle info from the page with Jurnian 701st armoured regiment

 

2 company names (from the left side of page)

a short story of 701st placed in the middle and to the left of the page (the first words are missed in each line)

and at the bottom of page there are 2 shadowed shapes of Executioner tank type, There are words under them - what are these words?

 

please help.

[Brother Captain Lucian]

Ill check my copy and see what it says.

[Brother Captain Lucian]

The Company names are Cobalt and Cyan

 

The text is:

 

The Jurnian 710st was engaged in prolonged founding operations on Tallarn at the time of the attack. Whilst other regiments were commissioning replacement vehicles and rearming those that had seen previous action during the Great Crusade, incomplete logistical lines meant that many Jurnian squadrons had yet to see muster at full combat strength.

 

and

 

Field attachments were usually made by merging the surviving elements of depleted squadrons, prioritising like-for-like replacement. In the case of First Squadron, Amaranth Company, this was not possible.

 

Lastly the words under the tanks are "Unavailable" as far as I can read.

 

Hope you can use this!

[Foghost]

Brother Captain Lucian,

Thank you very much.

 

This info will help me.

 

Thank you for founding time to check it and send me.

[Foghost]

Hello All,

 

I've finished my translation few weeks ago. Now we are trying to reborn pictures from this book.

 

So we faced some problem - we don't know what type is "Talon", Can someone tell me what is this? Or it's some unnamed old Imperial Army machine?

 

Also, does someone can confirm to me that there are no more additional pages/pictures with text in this book exept b/m:

 

"Silence" story - 1 page

time line - 2 pages

Jurnian 701 structure - 1 page

 

Thanks again in advance.

[Nehekhare]

didn't like it, because:

 

-it's not about iron warriors (no Legionnaire ever speaks a single word or is even mentioned by name)

-no tank battles (just skirmishes with the same 3 vehicles and the when the real battle starts, the protagonists stay behind on guard duty)

 

IW come to tallarn. they all die. the end.

[Brother Captain Lucian]

Foghost -

 

"Talon" is merely the name of the scout vehicle, I don't think they ever mention which type of tank it is. Just the designated name.

 

And there sort off is another picture, if you fold out the pages with the parts you already mentioned(701st, "Silence" and the timeline), there is a picture of the book cover. Not that important in anyway.

 

Hope that was what you required to need! :)

[Hyaenidae]

didn't like it, because:

 

-it's not about iron warriors (no Legionnaire ever speaks a single word or is even mentioned by name)

-no tank battles (just skirmishes with the same 3 vehicles and the when the real battle starts, the protagonists stay behind on guard duty)

 

IW come to tallarn. they all die. the end.

 

1. Of course it was. It just wasn't the side of the war you wanted to see.  ;) The cover of the book shows a shattered LR Spartan, and a squad of Iron Warriors burning to death, for Throne's sake.

 

2. That's a bit of over-expectation for a novella, in my opinion. I personally would've been pretty mad if they shoved the entire Tallarn War into one tiny book. This is just the opening shots of the war. The full novel (or novels, fingers crossed) will expand far more, and most likely both sides of the war. I mean, we're talking about John French here, the only guy so far in the Entire Heresy who didn't write our Iron-Hearted Father as a whiny, wistful dreamer. Instead, we saw the raw, cold anger and perfected violent temper of Perturabo in The Crimson Fist. I have faith in him as a writer.

 

 

 IW come to tallarn. they all die. the end.

 

Yeahhhh. More like, the Iron Warriors come to Tallarn, kill the planet, and then destroy the largest focus of opposition by the end of the book. NOT the end, just the beginning.