netminder69 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I'm playing Necrons tomorrow as part of my Escalation League. Looking for some advice. It's 750 points with restrictions of unlimited troop choices but only 1 of any other choice and straight codex. What i have built: Captain & command squad w/ plasma guns and apothecary. Power sword/bp on captain. 10 man Tac squad with melta, combi-melta, ML. 10 man Tac squad with flamer, combi-flamer Rhinos all around. Should I look to get some Flakk missiles? I fully expect he'll have either a scythe or ark, and probably a barge for his lord. I have a Dev box with only one model built, so I can put in some more ML if needed. Any help on tactics or (limited due to models owned) changes is appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 What Chapter Tactics are you utilizing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3590033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder69 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Haven't decided. Thinking Iron Hands. Unless something else would be better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3590038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz of the North Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 From personal experience do not run a rhino against a necron army. Most of their guns are great against light armor vehicles, with gauss glancing no matter what on a roll to wound of 6 and tesla being strength 5 to 7 depending on the gun it will run through your rhino. But the best tactic against necrons is focus on a unit and annihilate it, because if you kill all models of a unit they will not get the we are back roll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3591024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggles Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 +1. Always focus fire on necron squads until the entire squad is wiped. Otherwise they'll just get back up. (other then everliving). Your list has nothing to deal with an annihilation or command barge except for 1 unit. The plasma won't do anything as you'll need 6's just to glance, and he'll get a jink save. I face necrons all the time...if you can't pop av13, you're going to have a bad time. Quick sample necron list @ 750 using your rules. HQ: Lord with Scythe, Weave, mindshackle Command Barge (Fast skimmer, av13 quantum shielding, tesla) Troops: Gauss Immortals x7 Tesla Immortals x7, In Night Scythe (TL Tesla Destructor) Fast: Wraiths x3 Heavy: Annihilation Barge, Tesla. (Quantum Shielding, TL Destructor) The stock annihilation barge will practically wipe your rhinos (rhino if he gets lucky on a arc) on turn 1. The flyer lets him take any objective you may have been happy holding, as well as wiping out any remaining threats on the board with another destructor. Best description of a destructor, if you have never faced one before...imagine facing loota's you can't kill easily, but half ranged. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3591072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder69 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Well, I didn't do horrible. My opponent had a big group of warriors with a lord, a group of death marks, I big unit of immortals with gauss, 3 destroyers and an annihilation barge. We played The Relic. I started my Rhinos behind cover, he got first turn. Immortals ran to the relic. Barge tried to hit my left flank rhino but I only failed one cover save. Combat squad in ruins w/las cannon glanced the barge, then the Rhino drove up next to it and the unit's melta gun penetrated and blew it up. I could not get his immortals down. My full Tac squad kept blasting them but he was getting lucky on get back up rolls. I assaulted to try to hold them up until reinforcements arrived, but I fluffed my wounding rolls for 2 turns straight, eventually breaking from combat. Ended up losing by 1. He had relic and line breaker. I had first blood, line breaker, and slay the warlord. I lost 1-1/2 Tac squads, one Rhino, and two command squad troops.he had 5 or 6 immortals left, one destroyer, and 1 of 2 death marks. There was one marine though... Last surviving member of the Tac squad that assaulted. Kept taking a hail of fire from the immortals and kept making his armor saves. And when he didn't, I made the feel no pain rolls. He survived on his own, harassing the immortals from turn 4 to turn 6 until he finally succumbed. He's going in a dreadnought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3591562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azash Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 There was one marine though... Last surviving member of the Tac squad that assaulted. Kept taking a hail of fire from the immortals and kept making his armor saves. And when he didn't, I made the feel no pain rolls. He survived on his own, harassing the immortals from turn 4 to turn 6 until he finally succumbed. He's going in a dreadnought. I would say that model has earned a necron head or two for his base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3591636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasDM Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Necrons always bring up bad memories for me. When I was new (as in FNG) to 40k I played a Chaos Space Marine list vs Necrons and the guy playing Necrons asked if we could play without showing our lists to each other. Later I found out that his list was 1,500 points like we agreed upon but he put his C'tan on the board even though it wasn't on his list. Ever since I can't help but feel a little wary of Necron players. *shrug* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3595810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azash Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Necrons always bring up bad memories for me. When I was new (as in FNG) to 40k I played a Chaos Space Marine list vs Necrons and the guy playing Necrons asked if we could play without showing our lists to each other. Later I found out that his list was 1,500 points like we agreed upon but he put his C'tan on the board even though it wasn't on his list. Ever since I can't help but feel a little wary of Necron players. *shrug* Wow what a D bag. Unfortunately it happens though. Reminds me of a tournament i went to years ago at an LGS and he didn't require typed army lists. My Ork opponents list was written on hishis old electric bill envelope didn't include pts cost or even proper names (his warboss was listed as f**k nut). After losing I rebuilt his list using army builder...not a bad 1800 pt list but that's a steep hill to climb in a 1500 pt tournament. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3595813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I played a 1500 pt last minute unprepared game vs Necrons last week. It was a see-saw battle with everything all crazy. I pulled out a firm win on the last turn w/ slaying his warlard and getting first blood. Score was like 3-5. At the end, Tigurius was hiding in a Landraider and down to one wound. I still had enough to dominate the table, but had no way to traverse the table to get him off his objective. It was one of those games you can love - tense and exciting until the game was over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3598192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I played a 1500 pt last minute unprepared game vs Necrons last week. It was a see-saw battle with everything all crazy. I pulled out a firm win on the last turn w/ slaying his warlard and getting first blood. Haha, "slay the war lard" ! Did it smell like crisped bacon ? :D Like someone mentionned, you have to be methodical when dealing with Necrons. Kill one unit at a time ! Because even 1 model can be denying your objectives. A good strategy I found is going second. They will have to deploy generally spread out to cover all the battlefield. Then you deploy all your army in one side and destroy their army from one side to the other. Keeping a flanking force to prevent their far elements from getting there too fast until you're ready to deal with them ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3616368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder69 Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'll have to keep that in mind for future reference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3616553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 They will have to deploy generally spread out to cover all the battlefield. Not necessarily. Their light armor -- Ghost Arks and Barges -- are all Fast Skimmers so they can reposition rapidly, and the truly munch-tastic forces will have multiple Night Scythes which, as Flyers, can get anywhere they want in a single turn. Necrons are not the slow, plodding force they used to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3616626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggles Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 The annihilation barges aren't fast skimmers. But the command barges are! They can move 30 inches a turn if need be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286620-need-help-with-necrons/#findComment-3616674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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