NovemberIX Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 This is a really cool idea, I don't know if I could (or even should, to be honest) submit something, given my lack of ability :p. I make three admissions though, I'm not very good at sci-fi/40k style, nor am I good at following the rules of syntax and grammar, nor can I guarantee that a dreadnought won't be surfing a Storm Eagle on the way to a dynamic entry. Most of my 40k reading has consisted of crossover fanfiction (specifically Shinji and Warhammer40k by Charles Bhepin), the Legion of the Damned book, the Deathwatch book, and a few HH novels, plus the usual crunch stuff. Mostly, I just like these community wide ideas that could capitalize on all our differing strengths and abilities. If I can, I'll attempt to submit something involving my DIY to the Fanthology, if not I'm sure we'll find some other place I can help out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3620949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Would there be a specific way to tag a submission?Maybe just start looking through the Fan-Fiction subforum for good reads, or try to find ones you remember, and post the links to the threads here, or in the new thread if one is made, for those people interested in helping the project move along. Then the group can go through and discuss if they should have a place in the fanthology (+1 for this bring the 'official' name of the project/product) or not. Whoever is in charge, likely the Mods, will use our discussion to make the decision. But that is if we use material already posted. My only issue in basing it off of new material specifically written for the fanthology is that it will add extra time and will run the risk of the project waiting for a certain piece to be finished, only to find that the majority doesn't think it a good fit. Not that we'll be overly harsh critics or anything, just that there will have to be some sort of standard set with which we determine pieces that will fill a finite number of pages. Majority's vote within a set timeframe works for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3620975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorkimedes Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Could have a date that the stories should be submitted by. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3620985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine_Knight Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yes... As I am new to the BnC(late 2013-early 2014) I have nothing completed that I could post. If we wanted to make the first Fanthology consist of existing BnC works I would not have a problem with that as I could imagine there would be subsequent releases. I have read many of the fanfic posts already and would have no trouble finding some that I think would be worthy. If we did have specific date for submissions I could maybe speed up the completion of one of mine. I have only decided to be brave enough to try and create my own 40k fiction since I have been a member. The many excellent posts have given me courage and inspiration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3620992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah, it's no fair to the people who have just joined the board or never submitted something before. We should set a date that ALL submissions must be in by and select from before then. Stories already published should still get considered, but the new guys (and people like me whose skills have improved since they last posted a story) should get a shot at the fanthology. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 My apologies, folk. I did not mean that there should be no submissions unless they have already been posted and are available in the subforum. Just that we should not make it the sole aim or theme of the fanthology, that of new writing. By that train of thought, nor should it be the sole aim or theme if the fanthology to be older writings. I think it should be the writings that best reflect the talent of the Bolter and Chainsword. To that end, it ultimately matters not when it was written, so long as those who are making the final decisions believe that they meet that standard. As such, I am in full agreement with the latest posts about a deadline and an acceptance of submissions that were written within that timeframe. That said, I wouldn't call it unfair. Being honestly late to the party is just how life can be sometimes. But as Sanguine Knight mentioned, there may always be future projects that they can join in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Alright, so what the next priority should be is setting a deadline. What seems like a reasonable time frame? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm not sure myself. I'll go along with whatever everyone else decides. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I am a crap writer and I usually get my brothers like Kol or brother chaplain kage to direct and help me with my writing but I've got tons of ideas. Are heresy era short stories okay? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Personally, I'd like it if it had a little of everything that the site represents. Humanity Ascendant, 30k to 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Word limit for short stories? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I could try to compile my stories of the XIV Dragoons, and the Firstborn, Phelan Mahdra. Problem is, I'm not even close to being done with his story... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If we do snapshot microshorts, that might not be an issue. If we go with that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Keep me updated, then. I'll help where ever I can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine_Knight Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I agree with Comac on including anything covered by this site, and a specific word limit may help 1000 Heathens in his attempt to submit an ongoing story line. The quality and quantity of work put out by the members of The BnC should ensure that this project will also be ongoing. That being said, what will be the limit for entries selected? Will there be a common theme? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpediem Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Word limit for short stories? In theory a short story is between 1,500 and 30,000 words, but the RiaR competition at BL Bolthole forums stipulates no more than 1,150 words, and Heresy Online's Expeditious competion 1,100 max. For the sake of the beta readers' sanity I suggest that anything over 5,000 be shortened or serialized (Biased? Who, me?). With spring break starting Friday I have a week's worth of reasonably free evenings, so I'll set to trawling the fanfic archives, beginning at the old end (any volunteers for the IA/IT threads?). Maybe we should aim for 3/4 old material to start, and then cut it down as new work comes in? Anything good (or in need of improvement) that doesn't make it first time can always go in later issues. Does anyone know the whereabouts of Aurelius Rex? It would be nice if we could serialize the existing Dornian Heresy IA's, but they are his babies and I don't think it would be on to use them without permission. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I agree with heathens as I have my XXth legion devils brigade my IF WE DG BA that all have many micro stories Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Does anyone know the whereabouts of Aurelius Rex? It would be nice if we could serialize the existing Dornian Heresy IA's, but they are his babies and I don't think it would be on to use them without permission. He has been absent for about a year now. Far as I know, nobody's been in contact with him. Every time I see this particular subject be brought up, the general consensus is to leave it alone. He'll return and finish it, or he won't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Word limit for short stories? In theory a short story is between 1,500 and 30,000 words, but the RiaR competition at BL Bolthole forums stipulates no more than 1,150 words, and Heresy Online's Expeditious competion 1,100 max. For the sake of the beta readers' sanity I suggest that anything over 5,000 be shortened or serialized (Biased? Who, me?). With spring break starting Friday I have a week's worth of reasonably free evenings, so I'll set to trawling the fanfic archives, beginning at the old end (any volunteers for the IA/IT threads?). Maybe we should aim for 3/4 old material to start, and then cut it down as new work comes in? Anything good (or in need of improvement) that doesn't make it first time can always go in later issues. Does anyone know the whereabouts of Aurelius Rex? It would be nice if we could serialize the existing Dornian Heresy IA's, but they are his babies and I don't think it would be on to use them without permission. Awesome! Looking through the existing stories would be a big help. Micro stories could be cool as well. EDIT: As I was typing, Cormac Alrt brought addressed the Aurelius Rex situation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpediem Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Further to the possibility of serials, I'm leery about doing that to any work that isn't presented as finished or near as damn it i.e with extant chapter outlines and a known end. See Robert Jordan, GRRM, Frank Herbert, most of Fanfic.net, my computer's disc drive, etc. etc. JeffTibbetts probably knows more about this sort of thing, though, so IMHO the final decision on the matter should be in his hands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andurin Marvak Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 WHOA WHOA WHOA!! Everybody slow down a little! First off, I'm glad no one caught my "Yechpriest" mis-spelling in the first line of my first post, no less. Now I can act like I was just talking about Nurgle-leaning Dark Apostles. Anyway, I'm blown away by the flood of positive responses this is getting. I was not expecting this, especially from the Moderati and Administratum so early on. But let's please keep in mind that this is just an idea thread and that we don't need to be rushing off and writing submissions of finding gems in the Hall of Artifice just yet. Now for some bullet points to outline some of the good ideas I've seen already shooting around the room. -This can and should include pre-written material and material specifically crafted for submission. -In regards to artists doing cover art and illustration, to answer Olisredan's concerns, I don't really think it could be considered gratis work in the same way short story submissions wouldn't be considered gratis: They'd be done because they wanted to contribute, or simply create because they liked the idea or were inspired by a story. -We're calling it Fanthology.-Back to Olisredan again, I agree that we should have three volumes to keep from having a less focused, possibly bloated giant volume. The split between Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, and Mortals seems to be a good division, although I could see it simply being Astartes and Mortals of either stripe, or being four and having a Traitor Mortals in addition to the other three. Or perhaps a hybrid with two astartes per side and one mortal with both in it.-To clarify, we're not asking Black Library for this to be a product, but a free download that they could carry which would only help their business. After all, if your fans love you so much that they write your advertisements for you...well...Especially since this hobby is so very much about the fluff and concept, and "forging a narrative", well, a bunch of examples of how awesome GW's player/readerbase is couldn't really go wrong, now, could it?-As for a word limit, to keep a decent size number of stories in a book, 2,000-3,000 max seems good, with a lower limit of 500? This allows for both microshots and some lengthier material, of which a combination seems to be what everyone wants.-A submission deadline? Well, we don't even have anything quantified or qualified yet, but my two cents says a couple of months should be fine for a short story. Three at the most.-As for submission, I agree that the final call should be made by the Moderati, and that there should be a limited number of slots to fill for each book. Since it's an anthology, this number doesn't necessarily have to be small. Thirty wouldn't even seem that extreme, especially taking into account microshots being at least some of those. -It's important to recognize that this project wouldn't just be for the most talented among us. We already have several offers for editing and critiquing help. However, those involved would have to declare in good faith that they would actually listen to advice and change their story accordingly. This is why I added two months to my suggested submission timeline, because some of us would need serious help (and I count myself as possibly being one of that number) getting our stories down. -Back to the art again. Since I really like the idea of people doing illustrations for scenes or characters they really are inspired by in the stories, I think that after all the stories are approved, there should be a separate submission period for artists to apply for, say, ten to fifteen illustrations (including cover art) per book. Naturally, they'd have to talk to their subject material's creator throughout. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 -We're calling it Fanthology. Excellent. That's my question answered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akragth Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'd be keen to get in on this, as a budding wannabe author and all it'd be nice to take a break from writing stories in my own world for a change. I'd also be happy to proof read anyone else's work if needed. Might even stop me lurking and get me posting :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'd be keen to get in on this, as a budding wannabe author and all it'd be nice to take a break from writing stories in my own world for a change. I'd also be happy to proof read anyone else's work if needed. Might even stop me lurking and get me posting :D I'll take you up on that ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Sounds like a very cool project! I've not really got anything current on the go to include at the mo, but I'm happy to help with proof reading, etc. Would be nice to have some stories gathered in one place, I miss the Librarium! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288042-fan-anthology/page/2/#findComment-3621170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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