SickSix Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I agree with dantay. Raptors have bigger heads in proportion to their bodies. But I do like the conversion overall. Very cool concept. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Hmm, I think there's two things you could look in order to make thes look more like Velociraptors: One, the skulls, as the other guys pointed out: The skulls you have right now are cool, but not saurian enough. I think the jaws need to be longer -- although I don't have any clever idea for an actual bit that might work... Two, if I remember my hazy (albeit pretty extensive) dinosaur knowledge correctly, dinosaurs like the Velociraptor or Deinonychus used their tails as a stabiliser while running, keeping it mostly straight. Therefore, maybe straigthening out those tails a bit would make them look less ratlike?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 [snip] Two, if I remember my hazy (albeit pretty extensive) dinosaur knowledge correctly, dinosaurs like the Velociraptor or Deinonychus used their tails as a stabiliser while running, keeping it mostly straight. Therefore, maybe straigthening out those tails a bit would make them look less ratlike?! I feel like if the pose that hormagaunts are in would look like this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poom Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 Like the velociraptor (I think), use a bigger claw for the thumb joint and maybe some bigger claws on the feet, may help take away the look of robo-rat. The skulls look cool, are they from the skeleton horses? Maybe slightly bulkier skulls would help? Use Saurus heads and paint the flesh to look like metallic scales, even smooth some of the flesh away and paint it like a metal skull (like in the terminator movies) remove some of the eyes and kitbash some bionics? The skull is from Archmagos Draycavak wich I casted a few times. I am pretty sure it is based on a wolf skull. I realy love this head, with all the augumentaions and cables.. changing him is no option Hmm, I think there's two things you could look in order to make thes look more like Velociraptors: One, the skulls, as the other guys pointed out: The skulls you have right now are cool, but not saurian enough. I think the jaws need to be longer -- although I don't have any clever idea for an actual bit that might work... Two, if I remember my hazy (albeit pretty extensive) dinosaur knowledge correctly, dinosaurs like the Velociraptor or Deinonychus used their tails as a stabiliser while running, keeping it mostly straight. Therefore, maybe straigthening out those tails a bit would make them look less ratlike?! But those tails have tools at the end, they need to be flexible Also I think them beeing in motion gives the models much more dynamic. Thank you very much on the input to the raptors, but I feel like them to be more raptor like would need a totaly differen basemodel. When I first saw the conversions Tim did, the raptor idea came directly to mind but while building them and seeing that this will not realy work I became ok with it. They are now a crazy mix out of dinosaur, dog and rat ______________________________________ Finished the Glaive just in time for the L&T: http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Choom%2002.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Choom%2003.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Choom%2004.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Choom%2005.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Choom%2006.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 wooo, that is hot fire Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 That is sexy. I want one of those so bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Hmm, I think there's two things you could look in order to make thes look more like Velociraptors: One, the skulls, as the other guys pointed out: The skulls you have right now are cool, but not saurian enough. I think the jaws need to be longer -- although I don't have any clever idea for an actual bit that might work... Two, if I remember my hazy (albeit pretty extensive) dinosaur knowledge correctly, dinosaurs like the Velociraptor or Deinonychus used their tails as a stabiliser while running, keeping it mostly straight. Therefore, maybe straigthening out those tails a bit would make them look less ratlike?! But those tails have tools at the end, they need to be flexible Also I think them beeing in motion gives the models much more dynamic. Yeah, I realised that before, but the simple fact that they are being kept straight during the one moment we actually see the creature in model form doesn't mean that they cannot be moved. And I think it's something that would really remove the model's "rattiness" -- which you mentioned was a problem. But yeah, your models, your decision, of course. Oh, and excellent paintjob on the tank, of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Beautiful! Where's the driver's hatch at though? Maybe it's an irising door, or internal... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 The Glaive is really awesome poom You probably already wrote it, but can you share your paint scheme recipe ? EDIT: OMG these scyllax ARE SO CUTE! Great idea with the draykavac heads .... mhm .... need a way to do that too haha :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 LET. THERE. BE. CHOOM! Grand job, brother. Very... er, white. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I don't care what anyone thinks those are cyber-raptors and they're awesome incarnate ....suppose that beautifully painted Glaive is kinda okay too I guess Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I don't care what anyone thinks those are cyber-raptors and they're awesome incarnate ....suppose that beautifully painted Glaive is kinda okay too I guess I really like them too :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Love the Scyllax, I feel like the rat look is coming from the short necks and the hunched look the carapace is giving. Not much you can do with the bodies but you could definitely lengthen the necks to give them the raptor "s" shaped neck if you really wanted. Brilliant idea either way, and I love the Glaive! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4366845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poom Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Thanks! Hmm, I think there's two things you could look in order to make thes look more like Velociraptors: One, the skulls, as the other guys pointed out: The skulls you have right now are cool, but not saurian enough. I think the jaws need to be longer -- although I don't have any clever idea for an actual bit that might work... Two, if I remember my hazy (albeit pretty extensive) dinosaur knowledge correctly, dinosaurs like the Velociraptor or Deinonychus used their tails as a stabiliser while running, keeping it mostly straight. Therefore, maybe straigthening out those tails a bit would make them look less ratlike?! But those tails have tools at the end, they need to be flexible Also I think them beeing in motion gives the models much more dynamic. Yeah, I realised that before, but the simple fact that they are being kept straight during the one moment we actually see the creature in model form doesn't mean that they cannot be moved. And I think it's something that would really remove the model's "rattiness" -- which you mentioned was a problem. But yeah, your models, your decision, of course. Oh, and excellent paintjob on the tank, of course. It is not realy a problem, they just did not turn out how I imagined them in my head before I startet the conversion. Nevertheless I am very happy how they turned out. I am now waiting for the rotorcannons and vokite charger to arrive and then these guys go back on the table to figure out how to attach them on the back. Beautiful! Where's the driver's hatch at though? Maybe it's an irising door, or internal... Yeah that was what I thought, somewhere on the inside. I don't like them on the outside too much because they are pretty big. The Glaive is really awesome poom You probably already wrote it, but can you share your paint scheme recipe ? EDIT: OMG these scyllax ARE SO CUTE! Great idea with the draykavac heads .... mhm .... need a way to do that too haha The white is super simple. All you need is a good white undercoat and some oilwashes. I mix myself a thinn oilwash out of a black and brown oilcolor and allot of odorless thinner. When dry I add here and there some special effects with pre mixed oilbased solutions. I realy like Engine Oil from AK Interaktiv and Engine Grime from MIG Jimenez. This is a nice video from MIG explaining how to apply some of those effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Py_T-5GcY __________________________________ Here is by the way a group picture of all I managed to paint for the Loyalty & Treachery Event this year: http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/LampT%20II.jpg http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_2_2016_Badge_01_Centurion.jpghttp://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_2_2016_Badge_02_Chaplain.jpghttp://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_2_2016_Badge_03_Champion.jpghttp://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/L_T_2_2016_Badge_04_Forgelord.jpg Was again avery fun event and I am really looking forward to the ETL now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4367926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 You've done a lovely job, brother. The weathering is understated but useful in toning down the white. And I am always happy to see a Glaive. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4367927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch@oZ Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I like the raptors almost as they are- they look like scavengers, so rat heads seem like the way to go. Putting one of the hooded/armored skaven heads on the and redoing the teeth would fit their profile, i'd guess and would also put the head into "the right size/proportion" territory. There's that plaguemonk head with censers for eyes for example... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4368512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montuhotep Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Never considered using bronze as a spot colour in a WE scheme before, but be damned if it doesn't work... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4369231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poom Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Big update post incoming: http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Tech_Thrall_2_2.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Tech_Thrall_2_1.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Tech_Thrall_3_1.jpg 10 Las-Lock Thralls and the first of a 20 man meele blob, based on the conversion idea from "Meatgrinder" over at the Heresy30k Forums. http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Thallax02_01.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Thallax02_02.jpg Evil Thallax ready for priming. http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Knight20Errant2006.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Knight20Errant2007.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Knight%20Errant%2008.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Knight%20Errant%2010.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Knight20Errant2009.jpg Lord Bourne in this Knight Errant from the Sarum based House Avon. __________________________________________________________________ Propably my first loyalist Heresy miniature.. a knight in shining armor: http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Errant%201.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Errant%202.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Errant206.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Errant207.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Errant%205.jpg http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/PoomW/Errant%203.jpg Can you guess the Legion he got recruted from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4423085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Iron Hands? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4423090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soric Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Is he an Angel of Caliban? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4423092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poom Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Iron Hands? Yes Iron Hands With the cogs, bionics and implants I was hoping for a subtle IH reference, with out beeing to much under the nose. But I see how the robed head might sugest a Dark Angel @Soric but I think I then would have kept the sword instead of replacing it with a Powerfist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4423094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Iron Hands? Yes Iron Hands With the cogs, bionics and implants I was hoping for a subtle IH reference, with out beeing to much under the nose. But I see how the robed head might sugest a Dark Angel @Soric but I think I then would have kept the sword instead of replacing it with a Powerfist. http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Nailed-It-Baby-Meme-06.jpg It was the halo that gave it away. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4423100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvak Kyre Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I love the way that almost all of your models have some conversion on them but are so subtle in the way that they are done. They don't scream 'hey look at me I've been converted". Teach me your ways. EDIT: Could you explain how you do your casting or point me in the direction I could find it. Pretty please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4423111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poom Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Could you explain how you do your casting or point me in the direction I could find it. Pretty please? I started doing helmets and bits in similar shapes following this tutorial: http://s3.zetaboards.com/The_Ammobunker/topic/7503185/1/ But instead of greenstuff I use resin. To get rid of airbubbles I fill the mold halfway and then speeze it together to push the air out. After that I fill in the rest. To do the tech/zone mortalis bases I follow this tutorial from Rictus: http://recalcitrantdaze.blogspot.de/2015/03/zone-mortalis-8-back-to-basics-again.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4423152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 That is perhaps the best knight I have ever seen. God and those thallax are beautiful with the skulls. I never liked their normal heads and have been trying to come up with a substitute for a while now but you're killing it with those conversions. I need to stop looking at your stuff, my work just looks so poor in comparison! Hahaha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288089-but-blood-blood-is-forever/page/23/#findComment-4423224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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