tjdudey Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 HI Everyone, I am new to 40k, having been given a Space Wolves battleforce about 2 months ago. After a couple of months of observing me painting, assembling and generally getting excited about kickin a**, my wife has decided she wants to get into it too. (Something I am very pleased about, finally we have a shared hobby ) She is obviously interested in the Sororitas, but we have been told by one or two players that plastic/resin models are expected this year. Is this 'common knowledge', or is it a shot in the dark? My wife isn't keen on having metal models, so she would prefer to wait a few months for new models. What is the general opinion on this? Thanks for your help. Tom Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I can't tell you the general opinion, but here's mine. There have been rumors about plastic sisters for ten years. Three guesses on whether they were founded. The first two don't count. Metals will run out at some point and it's safer to assume sisters will never get plastics, won't pass Finecast, won't collect $200. The closest we might get is Goge Vandire's Brides of the Emperor from an eventual Forge World book about the Age of Apostasy. Not before the Horus Heresy and possibly the Great Scouring are finished though. This pessimistic opinion was brought to you by Cynicism Unlimited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I got into the hobby about a year and a half ago, at the time the rumor was the same. "Just wait, plastic models will be out in a couple months." I waited a couple month and said, "screw it" and bought some. Anyone who tells you that is just spreading a rumor that has been around for like 3 editions. If she wants them then she should get them because plastic sororitas may never be a thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 There are some (admittedly awkward) alternatives to collecting the official models, but as it stands it is unlikely that Sisters of Battle will get plastics for a while yet. Whilst I am convinced that it will happen someday, if your wife really wants to play as the Sisters, then metal is pretty much something you have to go with. That said though, I actually quite like metal models, sometimes more then plastic ones, so I guess it's down to her and what she can tolerate. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjdudey Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thanks guys thats interesting to know, I will pass this news onto her. Tom Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 There have been rumours, especially in the run up to the current codex's release. At that stage there was hope that we'd get some plastics so many people wisely waited to see as the difference would have been substantial and that's before you consider the other advantages of plastic. However that has all passed since we discovered it was only a digital codex. As it stands there is no good reason to expect plastic models at any point in the not distant future and anyone claiming otherwise is at best badly misinformed and/or running on old rumour. While we all want and hope for plastics soon, it just isn't realistically going to happen until we get a new codex. We recently had a digital codex, so an update is not probably due any time soon but on the other hand it wasn't a "proper" codex so GW could skip the usual update routine for all we know. Make sure it's an informed decision that your wife is happy with (eBay is good for picking up Sisters cheaper, if you can find them), and whatever she decides don't forget to let her know where to find the premier Sisters forum on the Internet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggles Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 It should be noted that raging heroes had a kickstarter (STOP GROANING IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT) involving sci fi style armies with female characters. The models are more imperial guard like then sisters though. However, they have had a nearly constant bombardment of sisters players begging them to make an ecclesiarchy style sci fi female army. Their next kickstarter is just that. So if GW doesn't want to lose out on every single sisters player jumping to a 3rd party model, they'll be forced to step it up before this hits the shelves. I think you can tell from their art style what market segment they are aiming at specifically. http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Sisters-of-Eternal-Mercy.jpg Someone is still going to yell at me, but at least it won't be for the other style of raging heroes . Basically if GW is ever going to release plastic sisters...they WILL do so before this comes out. If this comes out first, there will probably never be any plastic sisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 TJ, Be sure and have her look at the other armies as well. Eldar, and Tau have a slight anime/gundom look that some girl gamers like. But you never know, she may thing Orks are her calling. Women who play are not limited to women only armies. Which is good because I would hate to limited to the fay old farts army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinnerBeta Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If you guys don't mind, I'll this here for those who like to collect fluff pieces where Sisters get owned for future use: "The limited resistance provided by the planetary defence force and the few honour guardsquads of Adepta Sororitas did not slow the Crimson Slaughter in their grisly work. Onlywhen the last inhabitant of the planet fell twitching did the renegades begin the nextstage – piling the corpses into the cathedrals. The dead were stacked all the way up to thegreat vaulted ceilings, a grim trophy mound." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Sigh. Well, even I'll admit that three squads (or whatever constitutes 'a few') of Sororitas aren't going to be much help in the face of an entire Chapter of chaos marines. I wonder if GW realises that we'd be a much better Worf if there were some examples of us actually being the ones doing the owning outside our own books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I am very concerned that the Sisters are headed for the scrap heap of wargaming history. That, or a glorious rebirth. The current situation clearly cannot last, as GW has made it clear that they no longer want to deal with the rising cost of white metal. Something has obviously got to give, but the question is what? Will GW keep the Sisters on, supported in rules but not in models? Will they squat them altogether? Or are no plastics actually coming, at some point, eventually? The ultimate fact is that no one knows. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collective Consciousness Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Also why why where there only honor guard. Where where all the others? I am very concerned that the Sisters are headed for the scrap heap of wargaming history. That, or a glorious rebirth. The current situation clearly cannot last, as GW has made it clear that they no longer want to deal with the rising cost of white metal. Something has obviously got to give, but the question is what? Will GW keep the Sisters on, supported in rules but not in models? Will they squat them altogether? Or are no plastics actually coming, at some point, eventually? The ultimate fact is that no one knows. GW will not support rules w/o models seeing as they dropped the spore pod and the doom of malant'ai from codex tyranids. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If we're really talking "worst case scenario" here, this board will very likely receive the same treatment Ad Mech's board has: it will endure, and so shall we. <3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Also why why where there only honor guard. Where where all the others? I am very concerned that the Sisters are headed for the scrap heap of wargaming history. That, or a glorious rebirth. The current situation clearly cannot last, as GW has made it clear that they no longer want to deal with the rising cost of white metal. Something has obviously got to give, but the question is what? Will GW keep the Sisters on, supported in rules but not in models? Will they squat them altogether? Or are no plastics actually coming, at some point, eventually? The ultimate fact is that no one knows. GW will not support rules w/o models seeing as they dropped the spore pod and the doom of malant'ai from codex tyranids. I guess what I mean is that I could see a situation where GW doesn't want to officially squat them, but basically stops supporting them. Kind of like the fate of the Specialist Games towards the end. Veteran gamers have passed on to me that GW got really bad press when they squatted the Squats and is not likely to repeat that mistake. But abusing the line until only the die-hards still play them, then killing it? That's something I could see them doing. I mean, it's a terrible idea, but at least it's a new mistake, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Is it now so bad we're glad that only a few Sisters get killed this time? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Pretty much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I guess what I mean is that I could see a situation where GW doesn't want to officially squat them, but basically stops supporting them. Isn't that basically where we are now? Digital codex only, direct order only...ok, so we're .0001mm away from outright nonsupport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Taz Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 As a Sisters player since 2002. IMHO, there are two viewpoints on this. You can wait until GW finally comes out with plastic sisters and a brand new codex! If that ever happens. There has been talk of that since I started playing. Or you can start checking out Ebay and seeing what you can get, may be cheaper then GW and start getting your army together and then start painting them up to play. If she does start Sisters there are a couple of things that are really good about them outside some of the nice stuff in the codex. First of all you really don't have a lot of things you will have to put together. So all you have to do is clean them up, glue the backpack on and then prime them up. Then get to painting them up. After she starts to play, she will find out that the worries that most other players have about having an OOPS with their models goes away. You'll never have a model go splat! Yep no watching all of those plastic pieces go everywhere! One of my friends had his roommate drop his Grey Kinight Chapter Master the other day and he is still crying about it! One twenty five year old bottle of booze later and he is still pissed off about it! Roommate is will be paying for that for a very long time! Plus I think Sisters stand up much easier then the plastic models! So good luck and have fun! We always need more sisters out there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I guess what I mean is that I could see a situation where GW doesn't want to officially squat them, but basically stops supporting them. Isn't that basically where we are now? Digital codex only, direct order only...ok, so we're .0001mm away from outright nonsupport. Well, yes, but the question is when, if ever, will they pull the trigger? What happens when they run out of metal? Will the Sisters continue to get online pseudo-updates forever? I think what I left out of my previous point is that this is not a sustainable situation. Sooner or later, GW will have to poop or get off the pot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3624952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piano_Sam Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Does anyone think maybe the Sisters of Silence might be a good alternative? They're supposed to be released around the same time as Prospero, which is later this year, maybe? My hope is that GW might see the popularity of the SoS and begin really supporting the SoB, or at least letting FW release some resin Sororitas. They're not the same, fluff-wise, other than being lady warriors in power armor, but there could be some overlap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3625030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 greggles makes a very good point; if GW wants to be able to sell any kind of sisters in the future, they'll have to make the plastics before Raging Heroes steal the legal right to do so from under them. Just like the tyranids' spore pods. Of course, if Raging Heroes makes them first, you can count on GW squatting their codex. Also why why where there only honor guard. Where where all the others? Grey Knight armor paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3625442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFallenx Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Also why why where there only honor guard. Where where all the others? Grey Knight armor paint. Zing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3625676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 greggles makes a very good point; if GW wants to be able to sell any kind of sisters in the future, they'll have to make the plastics before Raging Heroes steal the legal right to do so from under them. Just like the tyranids' spore pods. Of course, if Raging Heroes makes them first, you can count on GW squatting their codex. GW already have Sisters of Battle models available, though. Also, women in power armour with a religious theme is probably generic enough that anybody can make them without legal complication. If anything, a successful Raging Heroes release might inspire GW to get off their behinds. Maybe some people would rather have 3rd party, but I don't think most current players would pass up a chance at Sisters plastics, nor would potential new players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3625816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Max is right, there's no risk as GW already have Sisters models. Hopefully it's the proverbial boot GW needs! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3626137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjulhu Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 One of the reasons I think we have not seen sisters been redone is that I don't think GW knows what to do with them rule wise. At the moment they have one of the dullest and uninteresting set of rules in the game from a mechanics stand point. Passing Ld test once per game to get a special ability that is weaker than those that other armies get all the time and having a 6+ invulnerable save in a game where the majority of wounds caused come from sources that don't ignore a 3+ armour save are just not very good. Unfortunately, Chapter tactics and the wide options of marine units available make any new iterations on power armour hard armies hard to come up with. Simply put beyond fluff the sisters have no place in the game as it stands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288205-2014-for-the-sororitas/#findComment-3626257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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