Blindhamster Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hey guys, so after reading over my buddies copy of imperial armour volume two, I was a little frustrated to see that BAs no longer had access to contemptors, and that we still didn't have access to storm eagles. I decided to query Forgeworld about this. Below is my email: Hi guys, I hope you don't mind me dropping a brief message your way, but I had a couple of queries regarding 40k, imperial armour and blood angels.. Firstly, as of the updated imperial armour 2, it looks like contemptor dreadnoughts are no longer an option that's available? Is there a reason for this? Particularly as I own a mortis and a regular (dual ccw) version. Secondly, is there a reason blood angels still don't get access to the storm eagle? Considering other space marine chapters have access to a whole lot more different flyers? Its one of those models id have probably bought a couple of to go with my thunderhawk if the option was there as I run codex adherent 10 man assault squads. As an aside, I know you likely havent even begun to determine the rules for the IXth in the heresy, but if you have any throw away thoughts for next time mates want to play a heresy game....Thatd be very cool! See you at the heresy weekender! I sent that Tuesday and got the following reply today: Hi Alisdair, Thak you for your email. In answer to your questions: 1. The Blood Angel Contemptor Dreadnought has its own rules separate from the standard Contemptor. You'll find these in Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2. The Blood Angels can take both the Storm Eagle and Fire Raptor, we will be updating the FAQ in the near future to reflect this. 3. We have not yet looked at the Blood Angels in the Heresy era, we will certainly be looking at them for a future Horus Heresy book. If there is anything further we can do to assist you, or if you have any queries about the information we have requested or provided, please telephone us. So, they failed to answer my query in regards to mortis pattern contemptors, but it's good to know that the rules in IA:Apoc are still valid for our regular contemptors. However I was only asking about storm eagles because I always do (literally every event I go to, I ask them, and I have a friend or two that ask for me as well :P) So their reply caught me a little off guard, but in a good way! I've gone back to get clarification on the Mortis, and on a possible eta before the FAQ lol. Hi! Thanks for the news about the storm eagle, I think ill be getting a couple as soon as the FAQ hits, any idea on when to expect it? As far as contemptor dreadnaughts, what about the mortis pattern? Which was available to blood angels in imperial armour aeronautica? Thanks So, other than me, is anyone else pleased about this? or does nobody else run codex adherent 10man assault squads and want them to have a transport? Thoughts on how it might mix things up at all? I'm seriously pondering a 2 storm eagle, 1 raven list.... skyshield landing pad to start one on the table, mortis contemptor pending their note on rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabbala Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 BA do not have access to the mortis contemptor dread, the rules are in the same book pg 20. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3628350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Imperial armour aeronautica says otherwise? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3628368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabbala Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 In IA Aeronautica the mortis contemptor is limited to SM, DA, and BT but that was before the merger. It's the same as in Apocalypse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3628375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 So we have no way of getting interceptor without taking allies? Sucks :( at least storm eagles are fair game now. Made me very happy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3628378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronhour Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 So we have no way of getting interceptor without taking allies? Sucks :( at least storm eagles are fair game now. Made me very happy! Legacy or sarosh out of the latest imperial armour book, "once per game one of the vehicles weapons gains tank hunter, sky fire, night vision, and interceptor special rules" not cheap at 30 points and sucks if you get puppet mastered and they blow it :/ (damn you bela'cor) but getting 6, str 7 rending, twin linked interceptor shots rerolling to pen against a heldrake when it arrives is pretty nice, oh and no jink saves. I love my Sicarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3628498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 There are a few ways to get interceptor. 1. Hyperios Launchers 2. Fortifications - most notably NOT the quad gun aegis line, but the Quad Icarus cannon vengeance batteries - 2 for 150 points!!! If you dont play Stronghold or FW, then you're unable to get it without allies and standard forts it seems. An important distinction about the Contemptor however is that it does not have Interceptor - well- more accurately, it does, but will never ever be able to use it in the enemy turn. It only gains that ability in its shooting phase when it doesnt move - It appears to be GWs/FWs initial attempt at allowing shots to be taken at the ground or the air (unlike the IG Hydra) - as opposed to what they did subsequently in the Chaos dex and actually gave two profiles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3628852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 hmm, what slot are hyperios launchers? (and which book for that matter) with the news on storm eagles I'm now thinking 2x storm eagles 1x fire raptor, troops in the storm eagles (assault squads I think, although I'm thinking maybe vanguard in one, regular in the other?) take a selection of sniper scouts and ccw scouts for some cheap bodies and harassment? 2 baal predators on the ground... thats something like 700ish for the 3 flyers, 300 for the baals, 200ish per assault squad if going regular ones. another 150 on scouts throw in Tycho with the plasma gun/storm shield honour guard I've been thinking about and a drop pod? any remaining points would then go on a fortification with interceptor I guess... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3628863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Hyperios are now in Heavy (moved from Fast, oddly). Theyre 140 points for 4 of them. And T6, 2W - which is awesome. Only 1 shot each, but still 4x S8, Ap3 shots are great!!! Ill check which book - but it may be in the 2nd Edition of IA 1 (or2). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3629017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 IA:v1 SE is Imperial Guard, so they are in IA:v2 SE. I guess this means that the rules in IA:Aeronautica is out of date as they list them as Fast Attack choices? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3629027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 its kind of silly, because Aeronautica is not really all that old, but just about everything in it is no longer valid :( still, as I said, Storm Eagles! how would you guys best utilise them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288390-excellent-news-brothers/#findComment-3629051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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