Prodigal Son of Magnus Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It definitely upsets me that Primarchs are affected by Unwieldy. In the fluff they are constantly described as wielding huge weapons at a speed that amazes Astartes. The worst part is that FW screwed up which weapons should be unwieldy and which ones shouldn't. *Cough* Vulkan *cough* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3663368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I don't see where Sanguinus going 1-1 with the Bloodthirster Kha'Bandha is a great demonstration of martial prowess. After all, Lorgar took on, not just any Bloodthirster, but An'ggrath the Unbound himself and he whipped it soundly. It was a great feat until the authour of Aurelian decided to have Lorgar beat An'ggrath Sanguinius shouldnt even have fought the bloodthirster again till Terra, epic fail on the authors part... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3663379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Sanguinius shouldnt even have fought the bloodthirster again till Terra, epic fail on the authors part... Yes...it was a terribly disappointing book, especially as it was the grand entrance of the BA onto the Heresy stage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3663467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 On the subject of An'ggrath: Didn't he get one-shotted by an Inquisitor with a force sword in the Siege of Vraks books from Forge World? Hector Rex was the guy's name I think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3663936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal seanisi Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 On the subject of An'ggrath: Didn't he get one-shotted by an Inquisitor with a force sword in the Siege of Vraks books from Forge World? Hector Rex was the guy's name I think? 285 Point Inquisitor!! Rules wise, He stacks up against Draigo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3663949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Does anyone want to run the maths on Corax against Angron? With his Vector Strikes and Pinions I think Corax May have a chance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3663972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vile Siren Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Is Fulgrim any better with Fireblade? Kind of disappointing hearing he is so bad compared to the other primarchs. Trying not to come off as a whiney fanboy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3664537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Do the rules for fireblade show up in Book 3 or something? I haven't seen them anywhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3664565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 It is Master Crafted and gives him S7. I believe Ferrus still kills him. If only Corax had WS 8 :( I am a Raven Guard fanboy ..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3664581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 It is Master Crafted and gives him S7. I believe Ferrus still kills him. If only Corax had WS 8 I am a Raven Guard fanboy ..... But -where- does it say that? It's not in his entry in book 1, I can't find it in the EC section of book 2, where are the rules for Fireblade? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3664586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Crusade Army List book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3664595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 See, now they really need to get off their butts and put that book up for sale separate from the collector's edition. Or at least post all the updates and errata as PDFs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3664970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Vulkan is the strongest of the primarchs it makes sense that a big hammer isnt unwieldy to him tbh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3665093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son of Magnus Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Vulkan is the strongest of the primarchs it makes sense that a big hammer isnt unwieldy to him tbh. And Mortarion is considered as strong as Ferrus in Scars and swings his scythe fast enough to block the Khan's sword. Add to that the fact that a Scythe is a relatively light weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3665449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I think that among the top (by maths) are Horus, Vulkan, Ferrus. Their resilience and high strength attacks are really useful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3665553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 A scythe is many things, but it is neither balanced or light. Nor is it a weapon, but a tool. I also didnt say anything about ferrus as i wasnt aware off hand of any specific references to him being strong. There is also a big difference between being able to block with a weapon and being able to strike quickly with a weapon. A scythe made of the right material has a lot of area to use for blocks and parries, but its still big and cumbersome, and morty is never referred to as one of the strongest primarchs, his thing is his endurance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3665560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyld Fireblade Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I think that among the top (by maths) are Horus, Vulkan, Ferrus. Their resilience and high strength attacks are really useful. From the fluff Horus is not one of the strongest primarchs, it all come from that mace of his. The primarchs that are actually noticeably stronger than their brothers are Vulkan, Russ, and Ferrus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3665624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 The two strongest, according to a Salamander, are Ferrus and Vulkan. I think FW did a good job reflecting this with S/T7. Of course, I would love for Ferrus to have the option for Fireblade, but oh well, he is still a boss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289534-primarch-1-on-1-tabletop-tournament-how-do-they-stack-up/page/6/#findComment-3665652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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