Mazryonh Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm sure a lot of HH players here would love to see quite a few things "imported" from the 30k era to the 40k era. I'd like to hear what others on this forum would like to see in that vein. Here are a couple of things from the HH era I'd personally like to see "imported" into 40k. Erebus and Kor Phaeron (of course!). Certain older weaponry types like the Volkite family of weapons and the Archaeotech pistols. Legion rules for the traitor legions, updated for the 40k ruleset. The Legion rules for loyalist legions created for the HH era were at their core "boosted" versions of their "Chapter Tactics" in 40k, so this has been done before, just in reverse. Who else would like to see things from this era "imported" into 40k? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The legion rules are not chapter tactics, the legion rules are revamps of the 'Golden Age' rules from the Index Astartes era, when each FF got great rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nothin'. Tech is backwards in 40k for a reason. Mad Max meets Heinlein's Starship Troopers meets the Dark Ages. 30k is the Golden Age of reason and technology. Advanced tech should be expected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Balance. *badum ching!* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 0-1 option for a squad of cataphracti or a squad armed with volkites.... That's pretty much it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molokai Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Keep em seperate. If we start bleeding one into the other there is the very real chance that 30k will suffer somehow. Not a good thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nothin'. Tech is backwards in 40k for a reason. Mad Max meets Heinlein's Starship Troopers meets the Dark Ages. 30k is the Golden Age of reason and technology. Advanced tech should be expected. This. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nothin'. Tech is backwards in 40k for a reason. Mad Max meets Heinlein's Starship Troopers meets the Dark Ages. 30k is the Golden Age of reason and technology. Advanced tech should be expected. Hear, hear! In the Great Crusade, the flame of humanity was stoked into a roaring fire that spread across the universe, sweeping all before it. Powered by a technological revolution brought about by a demi-god, it was possibly the greatest era that mankind had ever known. We were the apex predator, destroying anything that did not cower before us in surrender or supplication. Nothing could stop us, except for ourselves, and we fell far from that great height we had attained. The progress of civilization froze and even began to backslide in most areas. Humanity was a ghost of itself, repeating the same motions by rote and not true learning. Imagination, free thought, and even freedom itself became dangerous outlets for the Warp to make its way into our world. To survive, we imprisoned ourselves behind walls of fear, hatred, and ignorance. Ten thousand years later, that roaring fire is now little more than a candle flame guttering in the winds of the Warp, and it cannot hold out forever. The weapons of the Great Crusade now lost to humanity in the present day of 40k should stay buried in the past as little more than myths and legends. And honestly, I really don't believe humanity would have survived for ten thousand years after the Horus Heresy. That is far too much time with far too many foes, internal and external, for us not to do something stupid and bring an end to our species. Thy way they describe how everything is supposed to work, I would have given humanity no more than a few centuries to kill itself off as each star system erupted into civil war in a mad scramble for the Emperor's table scraps, or leaving us wide open to some attack from some xenos race. I love the gleaming hope of the Great Crusade and the despondent grittiness of the 41st Millennium and believe they should be kept separate and undiluted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemujinZero Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If we take down the velvet rope and allow some of our refined 30K concepts out to benefit the masses, there's a chance that some vulgar 40K nonsense might slip into our more sophisticated community. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Well, I await the HH/7th FAQ with trepidation... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 God damn it 30k mankind winning 40k Nanking losing Pretty easy maths Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I want to see darkwing storm eagles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 What I'd like to see from 30k in 40k actually has nothing to do with the models or the asthetic. I want to see more lists that follow the design ethos of the Legion list, which has the best internal balance I've seen. I'd like to see HH's Lords of War restrictions and options. I'd like to see the excellent campaign systems FW makes get more traction and wider acceptance. I'd like to see Alan Bligh be the head of the Design Studio. I'd like to see more 40k in 40k since I've pretty much quit 40k in favour of the far more enjoyable 30k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If we take down the velvet rope and allow some of our refined 30K concepts out to benefit the masses, there's a chance that some vulgar 40K nonsense might slip into our more sophisticated community. I second this. Let's keep the two things seperated for the greater good. But I still couldn't resist doing this: http://i.imgur.com/GVbP0QD.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The only thing I'd want to make the jump is balance which is unachievable because the WAACs will always mathhammer down the broken combinations, thankfully such is exceedingly rare within the 30k community. On a personal note, a way to play Night Lords/Iron Warriors/Alpha Legion would be amazing since heldrakes/maulerfiends are just :cuss models imo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm with I believe the majority of fraters here - the only thing that I conceivably want ported across is the balance and campaign systems... Otherwise I'd still be playing 40k not 30k and be using proxies or whatever it is with the free-for-all of 7th Ed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormborn Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'd like to see 30k & 40k kept seperate. Although if GW could learn from FW design ethos that could be interesting as GW has made some batpoop awful models of late. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3705992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Indeed,we don't want to be subsumed into the proletarian abyss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3706113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Given I already play 40k with 30k models, I'll echo the balance and campaign building sentiments. That and 40k rules for the scimitar jetbike, because I own said jetbikes and would probably enjoy getting some use out of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3706233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 There needs to be a 40k Mechanicus codex. PERIOD. There is one thing from 40k that I would like to see in 30k. I want to see FW make cooler storm talons, like how they made the storm eagle from the raven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3706366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I hate 40k, 30k is far more interesting, its where the action is at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3706382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Fire Raptors. As far as mixing the two systems, take heed of the painful story of the Iron Hands and Grey Knights. I would not wish that fate upon anyone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3706483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malorn24 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 For me just some of the old armor or old modeling stuff. I think a relic weapon or Chapter relic of any kind should look like a relic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3706498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Fire Raptors. The glorious Bolter Bird is already to be found within the sacred tome known as IA Vol.2 Second editon. One shall be coming to a crusade in a Forum near you shortly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3706505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Well I would like to see a little 40k in 30k in the form of Forge World balanced rules for Xenos so we could get some Crusade love in, also rules for races that we smashed out of existence (megarachnid. sp?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291843-things-from-30k-youd-like-to-see-in-40k/#findComment-3706539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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