Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Doomrider ... I want him even more than Fulgrim. He's my true Primarch! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yeah, we had combat drugs and I brought a rapture battalion will 6 noise marines squads so I got +1s to sonic weapons, split fire, and I think there was something else. It was so awesome but then 8th happened and I felt robbed (still kinda do). We finally got flavor for our Legions and then bleh. That's what made me put down my EC and not play for a good while. Bummed the army I had collected and was building were neutered. I've played them a few times though and have found some joy in them but I need the excess of emotions from a new Codex and minis to get the blood going. Gederas, Everything on that list would be so welcomed! As for 'sonic vehicle' I really would dbe ok with sonic weapon upgrades for our existing tanks. I have no idea what they could make for slaanesh to rival the drone, plagueburst, and hauler the DG got if we went tit for tat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Doomrider ... I want him even more than Fulgrim. He's my true Primarch! If they make Doomrider, I hope they take ideas from Kierdale's Doomrider. Because that one is PERFECT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I'm still mostly waiting for proper Chaos Marine models so I can finally start building my EC army for real. I bought the Start Collecting box on a whim quite some time ago and was very displeased with the models compared to my T'au models. The Primaris release only made that feeling worse. Tho if the rumours about a Black Legion release this year are true I'll force myself to keep myself busy painting my T'au at least until february 2019 to see whether a EC release follows or not before using them to convert myself some better Noise Marines lol I still played a few times with proxy models tho and Noise Marines are still a lot of fun to use with Stratagems imo despite them slowly falling behind and the Daemon Prince especially. However two units and a really bad legion tactic makes playing EC feel really lacking compared to end of 7th edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Doomrider ... I want him even more than Fulgrim. He's my true Primarch! If they make Doomrider, I hope they take ideas from Kierdale's Doomrider. Because that one is PERFECT! For sure! Tho that's what I've planned for my Seeker units even before Kierdale did it actually so I'm probably going to stick with my own Doomrider conversion (extremely early WIP and put on hold indefinitely for now). ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Gederas, Everything on that list would be so welcomed! As for 'sonic vehicle' I really would be ok with sonic weapon upgrades for our existing tanks. I have no idea what they could make for slaanesh to rival the drone, plagueburst, and hauler the DG got if we went tit for tat. I've a few ideas. - Foetid Bloat Drone Rival: A small Dreadnought-sized Daemon Engine with sonic weapons, but also the ability for a melee build that'd be scary. - Plagueburst Rival: Perhaps a variant of the predator with a big Blasmaster as the main gun and twin Sonic Blasters as the sponsons? Or a more artillery-based sonic vehicle? - Blight-hauler Rival: This is the one I'm not too sure on. Because the Blight-hauler has a REALLY weird niche in the Death Guard list. :lol: If they make Doomrider, I hope they take ideas from Kierdale's Doomrider. Because that one is PERFECT! For sure! Tho that's what I've planned for my Seeker units even before Kierdale did it actually so I'm probably going to stick with my own Doomrider conversion (extremely early WIP and put on hold indefinitely for now). ^^ Is that a chaos jetbike? That is badass! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yeah, it's the Doom Jetbiker from Puppetswar. Thought it's fitting as a Daemon Prince with Wings replacement. Here's the link if you're interested: https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=346 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Oh man, I think I had an idea for a drone-like rival. An enslaver, imagine a floating, mechanical squid and its biomechanical tendrils used to capture slaves for the legion. Sonic weapons to subdue/weaken an enemy before closing in. For the hauler I wish they would give us jetbikes, even more so after looking at sfpanzer's Doomrider. Our Legion preferred being swift so instead of bringing a daemon engine give us some ol' jetbikes! Plagueburst rival...I have no clue. I do hope we get some actual new units like the DG and not recycled materials like the Thousand Sons did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Daemon Jetbikes! Marines who enjoyed being fast so much that they merged with their Jetbikes! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 We need a petition and start making flyers to pass out! If would be the jetbike version of Warp-Talons, which would be SWEET! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I honestly really just want a Jetbike unit. I'm jealous of how fast and mobile Eldar Jetbike units are and none of my armies can emulate that (except for the T'au Coldstar Commander). :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Are the custodies ones good? I do hear you about the eldar jet bikes. That whole army is insanely mobile but it's their sneaky bikes that tick me off the most. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yeah, we had combat drugs and I brought a rapture battalion will 6 noise marines squads so I got +1s to sonic weapons, split fire, and I think there was something else. It was so awesome but then 8th happened and I felt robbed (still kinda do). We finally got flavor for our Legions and then bleh. That's what made me put down my EC and not play for a good while. Bummed the army I had collected and was building were neutered. I've played them a few times though and have found some joy in them but I need the excess of emotions from a new Codex and minis to get the blood going. Gederas, Everything on that list would be so welcomed! As for 'sonic vehicle' I really would dbe ok with sonic weapon upgrades for our existing tanks. I have no idea what they could make for slaanesh to rival the drone, plagueburst, and hauler the DG got if we went tit for tat. You should have seen what we lost in 4th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I saw what we used to have in 4th. Sonic weapons on everything. It was glorious lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yeah, I do not know how anyone survived that. I always heard about the glorious 3.5 codex, even got a copy years later, and yeah. WOW! I learned about 40k but then moved to Japan shortly after and where I lived nobody had 40k except those who brought armies with them. I missed out on the glory years. I have been playing since 5th...and it has been a brawl. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I saw what we used to have in 4th. Sonic weapons on everything. It was glorious lol My whole army was sonic. I had sonic bikers and terminators and even converted a sonic predator. What I miss most though, is my Lustwing. I'm excited that I can finally almost recreate it now in 8th, with even a few improvements. Hello, Xiphons! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5058607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I have DOOMRIDER, I have sonic vehicles (a land speeder shrieker)...I just need rules! For the moment, Iron Warriors Obliterators (no cover saves) will do for sonic Oblits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5059187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Come to think of, Iron Warriors Chosen with Combi-Bolter and Powerswords would be neat as Palatine Blades with sonic guns. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5059190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamIsCollapsing Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I can still shoot longe range and grenade when up close and personal when slain. I'd still argue you can't do that if you're up close and personal when slain. Again, just like you can't shoot out of any close combat regularly nothing about Music of the Apocalypse allows you to shoot non-pistol weapons while within 1" of an enemy unit. Not at the unit you're in melee with itself nor at other units. Those restrictions are for the shooting phase. Nothing stop a NM diying in close combat to shoot a nearby unit with his sonic blaster. It's the same reasoning for shooting characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5059398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I guess we'd need another FAQ for that then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5059399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Welp. Does that open leave the opportunity to either grenade the unit the now slain NM was in combat with or take a shot at another threat in range? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5059453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Dicko Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 What do you guys think about noise Marine cc squads? I have a bunch of bolt pistol and chainsword chaos Marines and I converted a couple of Doom siren champs with slaaneshi bits. From what I read they'd be better than using them as standard chaos Marines and since they're a troops choice for EC anyway... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5059474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 What do you guys think about noise Marine cc squads? I have a bunch of bolt pistol and chainsword chaos Marines and I converted a couple of Doom siren champs with slaaneshi bits. From what I read they'd be better than using them as standard chaos Marines and since they're a troops choice for EC anyway... I don't see how trading a 3 S4 AP0 shot cover ignoring 24" range weapon trading for a single additional S4 AP0 attack is in any way worth considering. They still won't be a good melee unit with Chainswords and they lose their great ranged output. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5059482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I've been running that type of unit for awhile as stabby-meatshields for my lord. I liked them better in the older edition where they were fearless and I gave them an Icon for a better feel no pain thanks to Traitor Legion. If you aren't crazy competitive it can be a fun unit to run and it does fill in a troop slot if you need it. Plus, it can save you some points on weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5059485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I keep waiting for the EC codex to drop. New noise marine models, sonic weapon options for vehicles and helbrutes, and a new 40k version of Palatine Blades so our Legion specific rule actually means something with EC dedicated assault units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294572-excessive-perfection-an-emperors-children-community/page/42/#findComment-5065716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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