caprera Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I stumbled into the old Rulebook via a friend of a friend. Pretty old I've only seen the cover, never had a look inside. I've seen all those pictures of MK6 armours that I loved already and noticed that the marines from the Rogue Trader times were not "badly" modeled. Just different design. Since I was dreaming of using HH rule/army list for an entire MK6 army for the Raven Guard I was wondering if that older design could be brought back. I hoe there are no rules infringments in asking but I thought it could be done by using 3D printers. A dedicated shop opened just in front of my house and so the idea came up. Problem is you have to provide the "project" and needless to say, there are none already online. I guess I'm not the first to think about it and everybody else just did it for himself. I would like to try but maybe reading here a couple opinions would have been a good idea. For instance I don't know where to start to design the helmet. Do I need to contact some professional ? Maybe someone in commissions familiar with GS ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 You can 3D sculpt a helmet / order it sculpted for you. If you use an existing Games Workshop model / bit it will be a copyright infringement and it is not welcome on this board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Thanks Kastor. So as long as I produce it myself no one will be angry ? P.s. fastest response in 10 yrs of forum lurking :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Are you just looking to get MK VI armor? ForgeWorld carries them: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/MK-VI-CORVUS-ARMOUR.html Otherwise, yeah you or a Professional 3D modeler will have to model a helmet for you before it can be 3D printed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 No Kilofix, that was my point. Forgeworld just copied the "new" design of those MK6 helmets straight from the GW space marine tac team plastic sprue. I want to find a way to replicate this: http://grimdarkmillennium.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/rn_marine2.jpg I understand someone may say the difference is not worthy the work but... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messanger of Death Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Games Workshop's 25th Anniversary model has a helmet that could be described as a modern day version of the old artwork. However, since it was a limited run and made of finecast the miniature is hard to come by and wouldn't exactly offer a reasonable way of making an army or even a squad. But it does offer something more than a picture in an old rulebook. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Yes that was one of the alternative designs but still not the originals. Pics anyway show as usual there is no single pattern. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I believe that the Ravenwing Black Knight helms are a lot closer that that aesthetic. LINKY Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Never seen that thanks! Added to the list :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psy-Crow Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Do you mean the old Rogue trader plastics? I actually have a few of those plastic beakies tucked away for my Raven Guard, I'll try get a pic tomorrow. I have limited use of a camera. Whilst, yes, it is copyright infringement, if you can do it cheaply and it looks identical, just paint them up, slap em on and tell no one. If its too expensive then ebay is your friend. But don't ask me for mine. From my cold, dead hands brother :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Also worth mentioning, if you can get your Hans on a sprue, as long as it is for personal use and you NEVER sell them, you could recast the sprue yourself. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3772973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks Crow, that would be much appreciated, maybe also measures would be a great help. @Grotsmasha: I said already I have no intention of seeling. I just dislike the modern beakie :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3773115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 There you go, see there's much difference I want to go for measures now and ask what's needed to the 3d shop asap. Do you guys think variants should be mandatory ? http://i.imgur.com/a5C8ggYl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3777947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Think it'd be cheaper to take a file to some new style beakies and shape them into a more hooked beakie. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3778406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 While you at it converting up mk6 chests isn't too hard either ... http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee214/SW1-SWC/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps631fc5fc.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3778412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Why were those changed too ? I thought bodies and the rest from Forgeworld are suitable. The only thing that made me stuck up my nose was the helmet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3778992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJB2K3 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Why were those changed too ? I thought bodies and the rest from Forgeworld are suitable. The only thing that made me stuck up my nose was the helmet. There are several deferent designs of chest piece dependent on armour mark. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3779342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The chests that match the early metal beakies are like the above pic and I only know of the SW chest that matches it. I'm using a lot of metals and need to bulk out squads with plastics so having to convert up chests. The FW mk6 chests look different not sure if that's the same as the old plastics or not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3779454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 As far as i remember there were a couple of variants for the MK6. Just chest pieces, but I never went past the helmet when looking for alternatives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3779649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The others have a different style of mk6 chest which is more of a Y shape. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3779716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Yep, from RT they all look the same except for the very old ones Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294928-bringing-back-the-beaks/#findComment-3779726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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