Hyaenidae Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 ...And the last true Iconoclasts of the Heavenfall Chapter will fight you every step of the way, "brother"..... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3824552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 ...And the last true Iconoclasts of the Heavenfall Chapter will fight you every step of the way, "brother"..... ;) Your always against me... So...sigh Not sure how to say no. Only took me an hour to throw together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3824580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 So I got my gamer books from FW a couple of days ago. Well. Apart from the fact that FW produced codex sized books that tinkle over actual codexs in terms of quality, I find myself lost in a deluge of awesome. I find myself wanting to go a myriad of directions, do I build my force around the fallen primus medicae, Bloody Bones being the pure reason (gotta love folklore insertion), with terror squads abound. Do I include the Haunter himself? Sevatar even? Or do I slip even more, tyrant terminators, the raven guard, the alpha legion all vie for my attention. So much awesome. So little time! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3824715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Any of those 4 could do infantry heavy. It sounds like the ability to field some Mechanicus units with Iron hands appeals to you, something that none of the other legions you are looking at can do. Also remember that while legions had areas they were famous for, all legions had units ranging from siege experts, to assault formations to fast recce. So if you love breachers, bring a squad even if that legion isn't known for their use. Theoretical: Looking at your post, the three most important points are that it's different from previous armies, involves Mark III armour, and that it's something special. Practical: From the list you've made, I'd go for Iron Hands. Mark III works beautifully with their background, and they have a greater variety of it (thanks to their unique units). Owing to their technical innovation, there's scope for lots of unusual stuff. In addition, you can indulge your desire for an infantry-heavy army because their scheme is quick to paint consistently and attractively. I want you to collect Iron Hands! Black Cohort & Apologist Thanks for your advice and support. I'm leaning strongly towards the Iron Tenth, but there is always a little bird, that warns me to think twice. But maybe it is only my over-cautious self. As for the support: Mechanicum seems a good choice, as they have some fine and devastating weaponry. I have also some Death Korps of Krieg figures - a project that sadly ended before it really begun - they were maybe good for a limited Imperial Army/Auxilia force beside my legionaries. You will never be sure of what legion to play, until you start painting some models If you enjoy painting that legion, its the one for you. I think there is great truth in these words. I remember, I got no success with my Space Wolves, and I thought to sell them. I only started to paint them (in the GW-schemes), but abandoned them after the first layers. For me, painting was always a hard thing, and I really need the mood for it. But then I took them again to the workbench, chose a new scheme, and they are now my favorite force I hope, that next weekend on Warhammer Fest we will see some more Legion-love too. I think, I will wait just a little bit more and make my final decision afterwards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3824726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 So I've been watching some of the Heresy drop assault game's videos and with this part time job I will be starting soon I want to start a small Heresy force, but have one quite big problem. I like all of the Legions. At the moment I only have the 1st HH FW book but will be getting the other two as soon as I get my first payslip, every book I read (both FW and BL) I keep changing my mind on what to do and now I just don't have a bloody clue. Help, please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 The best advise I can think of in such an instance like yours would be more of a question.... who are you at heart? The real you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 a murderous vicicious medic? oh you were talkng to me? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah, as has been previously stated/determined in the case of finding "your legion", it is more or less an exercise in soul searching / self analysis. If anything, take part in the Legion Smack Talk thread as a Legionary of any given choice of yours and see how you fare trying to be one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The best advise I can think of in such an instance like yours would be more of a question.... who are you at heart? The real you? Yeah, as has been previously stated/determined in the case of finding "your legion", it is more or less an exercise in soul searching / self analysis. If anything, take part in the Legion Smack Talk thread as a Legionary of any given choice of yours and see how you fare trying to be one. This leads to another problem: I am not like any of the Legions or the Primarchs. I have aspects of all the Legions within me, which is why I like them all and find it easy to like them no matter what author writes about them. So its more of choosing which aspect of me to start a Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The best advise I can think of in such an instance like yours would be more of a question.... who are you at heart? The real you? An :cuss with a good heart. Who is actually not a pyro. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The best advise I can think of in such an instance like yours would be more of a question.... who are you at heart? The real you? My character profile is that of a negotiator (hah!). Which Legion would reflect that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The best advise I can think of in such an instance like yours would be more of a question.... who are you at heart? The real you? My character profile is that of a negotiator (hah!). Which Legion would reflect that? Werent the Emperors Children kinda meant to be his Diplomats? They'd also work with the hair of your avatar ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yes, the Emperor's Children also doubled as diplomats. Although, Ludovic, I find your post incredibly ironic. Perhaps I can interest you in the II Legion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Although, Ludovic, I find your post incredibly ironic. Perhaps I can interest you in the II Legion? Hum... Not sure I get what you mean there, mate. Mind explaining a bit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Simison is creating his own rules for the II legion, and they're diplomats :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Ah, gotcha While I appreciate the offer, I'd prefer to stick to the official fluff/Legions for various reasons. I will have a read through the project at some point though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Same here, but the process of watching the rules take shape is very interesting :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'll be the judge of that :P Apart from the Emperor's Children, are there any other Legions who would fit the negotiator trait? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Ultramarines? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The Thousand Sons, Word Bearers, Raven Guard and Salamanders would also be the type to willingly talk it out over duking it out, if practical, though all four have had their share of world-burning. Edit: Or at least the most consistently and regularly. I can see all Legions, barring perhaps the World Eaters, having a history of negotiated Compliances. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus were also very diplomatic, Horus was very adept at political manipulation to get where he wanted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus were also very diplomatic, Horus was very adept at political manipulation to get where he wanted. I was gonna say them as well, but I wasnt 100%, because they're also pretty brutal. But yeah, Horus was very politically minded, especially with the other Primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 They were more politically minded internally than externally, and greatly preferred the more glorious conquest. But they would be capable of it, and excel at it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah definitely more so among themselves and the other legions than their enemies. The first couple of HH novels highlight that very well I think, Horus is exceptional at being diplomatic with the other Primarchs and his own men, and employs some very clever political tricks (like the Mournival), and some of the men in his legion are also noted to be very politically adept (Maloghurst for example). But we don't really see much of that against the enemies. Maybe with the Interex there's some of it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah definitely more so among themselves and the other legions than their enemies. The first couple of HH novels highlight that very well I think, Horus is exceptional at being diplomatic with the other Primarchs and his own men, and employs some very clever political tricks (like the Mournival), and some of the men in his legion are also noted to be very politically adept (Maloghurst for example). But we don't really see much of that against the enemies. Maybe with the Interex there's some of it? I wouldn't agree with that, necessarily. Sejanus was killed on 63-19 during a diplomatic mission to try and convince that world to join the larger Imperium of Man. With the human worlds they are shown to try diplomatic contact first, before going in guns blazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/15/#findComment-3825989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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