Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) Yeah I removed it because I try and avoid creating new rules / weapon profiles when I can, to try and keep in line with FW's existing status quo. The Eviscerator Autocannon was based off this So a single autocannon would look similar to a souped-up reaper autocannon, whilst a whole eviscerator engine would be a pair of them Either way, just having the Mastiff exist would be awesome, so I look forward to whatever you've got planned Edited August 11, 2015 by Iron Hands Fanatic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4143987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 That link won't work for me, but based upon what comes up when i google eviscerator engine, maybe a pair of this would work well: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-SE/Decimator-Butcher-Cannon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4144814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yeah, the Butcher Cannons seem pretty much perfect to be honest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4145517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) At the moment I'm working on quite a few photoshopped mock-ups, what with the rotational viewing on FW's new website, so expect a slow trickle of images for the existing designs. First up is the Sicaran Vindex Air-Defense Tank: With the early successes of the Sicaran Battle Tank during initial testing by the Xth and XIIIth Legions, a second stage of development was envisaged by the twin intellects of Ferrus Manus and Robute Guilliman, the ultimate goal of which would be the eventual supplanting of the venerable Predator and its myriad variants as the premier medium battle tank of the Legiones Astartes. One of the earliest ventures of this secondary project undertaken by the Magi of the Tempestora Sect was the modification of the Sicaran's extremely sophisticated turret targeting array to alter the vehicle's function into a dedicated anti-aircraft tank, capable of keeping pace with Legion vanguard formations whilst purging the skies of any opposing aircraft. The newly designated Sicaran Vindex had only seen limited deployment at the outset of the Heresy, with early contingents supplied to the Vth Legion, which had previously relied on dedicated aircraft to maintain air superiority parallel to it's notoriously swift ground deployments. Although a number of Forge Worlds which owed fealty to the Iron Hands and Ultramarines continued to produce this variant of the Sicaran for Loyalist forces throughout the Heresy, the Warmaster's machinations had seen the lion's share assigned to those Legions which would discard their ties to the Imperium before the conflict's start. Ignore the HB sponsons, the Javelin doesn't have 360 degree viewing on the site, and I couldn't find pictures of the Javelin's missile launchers at the right angle Anyway, hope you like it Edited August 19, 2015 by Iron Hands Fanatic helterskelter and Operative 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4147319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I only wish they came in squadrons. That tank looks beautiful Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4147393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Alas, such is the curse of the Sicaran - thanks helterskelter Next up is the Lanius: The Sicaran variant which would later become known as the Lanius owes its origins to the IVth Legion's conflict against the Ork hordes of the Cymaera Verge, a series of massive engagements which conformed to the extreme attrition rates which had characterised a number of the Iron Warriors' campaigns. Having deployed a number of first-generation Sicaran Battle Tanks within large armoured formations which were ultimately successful in dividing the Orks' number, the heavy damage caused to such vehicles - which had come to be expected amongst such divisions - quickly became problematic, as the delicate targeting augaries and sophisticated internal assemblies of the Herakles pattern accelerator autocannon caused extreme delays in the repair process, preventing many otherwise combat-ready vehicles from being deployed. The IVth Legion's response to this issue was typically utilitarian - replacing the accelerator autocannon with the Kheres Assault Cannon, a weapon which was easily replaceable, simple to repair and maintain, and with a munition type heavily stockpiled and easy to produce - unlike the highly specialised shells required by the original Sicaran. Despite the revulsion of the Tempestora Sect at such a brutal conversion of the Sicaran's highly advanced systems, the new variant did receive sanction for deployment where its new armament would provide a tactical advantage, whilst the Tempestora's Magi designed a more powerful weapon based on volkite technology so that the Sicaran Lanius might find a place amongst the Mechanicum's machine-cannon. Edited August 19, 2015 by Iron Hands Fanatic Nakuth, infyrana, helterskelter and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4147516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Aaaaaaand the Dominus: With sanction granted to a number of Forge Worlds to modify the Sicaran for a variety of combat roles, the Gorgon in turn tasked his own Legion with the development of the Battle Tank, utilising the continual need to refine and improve almost all forms of wargear which he had embedded within the Xth Legion’s psyche. Amongst the most successful of the designs produced by the vying Iron Fathers was a prototype which exchanged the Sicaran’s accelerator autocannons for a pair of Graviton Cannons, technology no other Legion possessed in such abundance, or relied upon so heavily, for despite the Sicaran’s considerable destructive capabilities against enemy armour, the Iron Hands’ routine deployments against the most technologically advanced foes of the Imperium consistently brought them into contact with armoured constructs of incredible durability. Granted immediate approval by Ferrus Manus, the Sicaran Dominus excelled in rupturing armoured vehicles, disrupting infantry advance and shattering fortifications with equal proficiency, ensuring the new Battle Tank was heavily sought after by many Legion’s armoured divisions, although the unstable and temperamental nature of the Graviton technology upon which it relied was held in some enmity by those who were tasked with maintaining them. Edited August 19, 2015 by Iron Hands Fanatic infyrana, Nakuth, Hesh Kadesh and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4147568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 They all even come in red, so thoughtful of you IHF. Now to just slap a BA symbol on the side... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4148260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 They all even come in red, so thoughtful of you IHF. Now to just slap a BA symbol on the side... Look like Word Bearers to me. Perfect for slaughtering lapdogs ;) You need to be careful IHF, soon the Skitarii will be banging on your door for creating heretical designs off sanctified STC's Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4148263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 They all even come in red, so thoughtful of you IHF. Now to just slap a BA symbol on the side... Look like Word Bearers to me. Perfect for slaughtering lapdogs You need to be careful IHF, soon the Skitarii will be banging on your door for creating heretical designs off sanctified STC's Its for Amit's company. The darker red hides the massive amounts of blood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4148280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Let's face it, if I had the possibility of doing them in Medusan Iron, I would :P And the Iron Tenth have no fear of the Skitarii - if the Fabricator General believes he has a monopoly on the loyalty of the myriad forge worlds he is very, very mistaken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4148467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Something a bit unexpected, but it'd been suggested for a while - rules'll be up later, but basics are transport capacity of 6, can swap out turret weapons & will have some cool tactical rules: Sicaran Advancer: Since the very first deployments of the Sicaran Battle Tank, a number of Forge Lords and Mechanicum Magi had contemplated the potential benefits of utilising the vehicle's speed and mobility to as an Armoured Transport for the elite warriors of the Legiones Astartes. However, despite myraid different approaches from a dozen Forge Worlds, success could not be found, with the complexity of the Sicaran's internal construction hampering any attempts to extend its hull to allow for an expanded transport capacity. Instead, the Magi of Armatura conceived of a Sicaran variant which combined a smaller passenger contingent allowed for by the existing hull with a suite of sensory and communication systems, which would allow the transport to function as a reconnaissance or command vehicle whilst maintaining considerable firepower. Although the Sicaran Advancer tended to find favour amongst specialist Legion formations rather than mainline forces, the limited production run before the Heresy's outbreak resulted in most vehicles being assigned as dedicated transports for commanding officers, a role in which the vehicle excelled. Edited December 19, 2015 by Iron Hands Fanatic Doctor Perils, helterskelter, Tyrannicide and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4150879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 What the razorback should have been... beautiful man. I want one. Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4151006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Damn you IHF.... Why do you do this to me???? Adding another Sicaran to my shopping cart now.... Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4151113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Hoping for at least a Twin-Iliastus Assault Cannon or Super Rotor Cannons at the least (if you give it a Chainfire Twin-linked Rotor Cannon, I'd love you long time. Who cares if it's S3 hits look how many things I'm shooting! Maybe allow it for an Alpha Legion Headhunter Squad Dedicated Transport (and give it Banestrike Heavy Bolter options :D) and/or Mor Deythan/Seeker squads? If you give it the Multi-melta and Searchlight upgrade, I'd suggest for a unique mechanic giving the spotlight the ability to spot units with a small blast template. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4151191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 One of those would do nicely for a scout transport, yah? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4151207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakuth Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Can see these as being ideal for XX Legion Headhunter, Mor Deythan & Seeker squads (as Hesh Kadesh said), but also for Destroyer squads. Give it an option for twin-linked missile launcher with rad-missiles or heavy flamer with chem munitions when taken as a transport for Destroyers. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4151214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Hoping for at least a Twin-Iliastus Assault Cannon or Super Rotor Cannons at the least (if you give it a Chainfire Twin-linked Rotor Cannon, I'd love you long time. Who cares if it's S3 hits look how many things I'm shooting! Maybe allow it for an Alpha Legion Headhunter Squad Dedicated Transport (and give it Banestrike Heavy Bolter options ) and/or Mor Deythan/Seeker squads? If you give it the Multi-melta and Searchlight upgrade, I'd suggest for a unique mechanic giving the spotlight the ability to spot units with a small blast template. One of those would do nicely for a scout transport, yah? Can see these as being ideal for XX Legion Headhunter, Mor Deythan & Seeker squads (as Hesh Kadesh said), but also for Destroyer squads. Give it an option for twin-linked missile launcher with rad-missiles or heavy flamer with chem munitions when taken as a transport for Destroyers. Thanks for the feedback - it'll be a dedicated transport for Seekers, Destroyers, Recon squads & Command squads - plus, I'll make sure it's available for the appropriate Legion-specific units (e.g Headhunters, Mor Deythan). Turret weapons'll be twin linked: HB, lascannon or cyclone missile launchers - as per usual, I'm avoiding any unique rules / weapons unless necessary just for continuity - sorry Edit: just for anyone interested, I've edited 'fluff blurbs' into the posts with the previous Sicaran variants Edited August 20, 2015 by Iron Hands Fanatic Nakuth 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4151813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Like with the Sicaran variants, this is an idea I've had for a while, but have only been able to realise in visual form with the new FW webstore: Fire Raptor Destroyer: Owing its development to the impressive combat record of the original Fire Raptor gunship, the Destroyer was among the many vehicle variants produced as part of the Neutron Laser project, integrating powerful Atomantic Arc-Reactors and a Neutron Beam Laser in place of the standard Raptor's Avenger Bolt Cannons and extensive munition stowage. Alongside paired lascannon ball-turrets and an array of high-ordnance missiles, the Neutron Beam Laser modified the Fire Raptor into a dedicated tank hunter, combining hyper-destructive firepower with mobility and speed entirely unattainable to the Legions' vast fleet of anti-armour vehicles. Extremely favoured by Legions which eschewed armoured ground vehicles in preference for high-speed deployments, the Fire Raptor Destroyer played a significant role in some of the Heresy's fiercest engagements, often fielded to counter large-scale armoured formations which would otherwise threaten lighter infantry forces, although the considerable investment in resources each air-frame represented resulted in increasingly conservative deployments of the dwindling number of Destroyers as the conflict wore on. Edited August 23, 2015 by Iron Hands Fanatic Twisty, marine7312000, depthcharge12 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4152035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Like with the Sicaran variants, this is an idea I've had for a while, but have only been able to realise in visual form with the new FW webstore: Fire Raptor Destroyer: Sweet Mother of Curtis Lemay..... :drool: It shall be done. Iron Hands Fanatic and Ryltar Thamior 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4152038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I don't know how you'd Fire that from a mobile platform but you have my attention Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4152062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakuth Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't know how you'd Fire that from a mobile platform but you have my attention I can see it having a sort of beam effect. I.e. It hits everything in a straight line 1mm wide that the Fire Raptor passed over during the movement phase? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4152082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Like with the Sicaran variants, this is an idea I've had for a while, but have only been able to realise in visual form with the new FW webstore: Fire Raptor Destroyer: IHF, you may be a mad scientist heretek, but you're the best kind of mad heretek, http://media.giphy.com/media/11zbU4Zcukv7R6/giphy.gif The kind that messes with GIANT LASERS! Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4152104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't know how you'd Fire that from a mobile platform but you have my attention With extreme prejudice. This beast will need massive heatsinks and coolant tanks to not fry in midair. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4152114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Looks like a metal, pissed off duck smoking a cigar. Perfect. :D Iron Hands Fanatic and GhostMalone 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/13/#findComment-4152122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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