spu00sed Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Oe large blast to represent all the shells landing near each other, or 4 small blasts to represent the shells scattering in flight could work. Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3796265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Ugh, I wish Grendels were an actual thing! These would fit my rapid response force perfectly! A squadron of Grendels with laser destroyers outflanking my opponent's artillery would also solve a lot of my problems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3796485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrypantz Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I would love to see someone like 1000heathens make some of these a reality. Money and hobby time stop me from diving right in myself. Â Have you plans to add variants to the Predator since it was/ is a main battle tank for the Legions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3796772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Love your Lucifer pattern Dreadnought concept, I think, if I may, use it to make a talon. I really like the small size, being more a mechanical suit rather than a large robot sarcophagus, the latter is still cool but for variation it's awesome. Hopefully with some cattellax legs and some MK V dread torsos I may be able to pull it off. Â Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3796820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I would love to see someone like 1000heathens make some of these a reality. That's the plan, brother.  :)  Love your Lucifer pattern Dreadnought concept, I think, if I may, use it to make a talon. I really like the small size, being more a mechanical suit rather than a large robot sarcophagus, the latter is still cool but for variation it's awesome. Hopefully with some cattellax legs and some MK V dread torsos I may be able to pull it off.   Well, I might be crafting the feet with plasicard, as I just don't have the resources for the Castellax. I do, though have an Ork Dread (which will become the rear of the Lucifer), and a FW Ultramarine Dread torso (which will become the front)  Much greenstuff and dremel work in my future, I suspect.  :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3796890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Ugh, I wish Grendels were an actual thing! These would fit my rapid response force perfectly! A squadron of Grendels with laser destroyers outflanking my opponent's artillery would also solve a lot of my problems. Well, being able to fit 9 more tanks into your army via Fast Attack seemed like common sense to me :P I would love to see someone like 1000heathens make some of these a reality. Money and hobby time stop me from diving right in myself. Have you plans to add variants to the Predator since it was/ is a main battle tank for the Legions? Well, there are so many variants on the Predator, and so many other vehicles that use the Rhino chassis that I'm mainly focusing on other types of vehicle - but as always, if something sparked my interest enough...[ plus I've already done this: ] I would love to see someone like 1000heathens make some of these a reality. That's the plan, brother. Love your Lucifer pattern Dreadnought concept, I think, if I may, use it to make a talon. I really like the small size, being more a mechanical suit rather than a large robot sarcophagus, the latter is still cool but for variation it's awesome. Hopefully with some cattellax legs and some MK V dread torsos I may be able to pull it off. Well, I might be crafting the feet with plasicard, as I just don't have the resources for the Castellax. I do, though have an Ork Dread (which will become the rear of the Lucifer), and a FW Ultramarine Dread torso (which will become the front) Much greenstuff and dremel work in my future, I suspect. Man, this is gunna be GOOD Just to let y'all know that the next design might be a little longer in arriving - it's an entirely new hull [or should that be fuselage? ], so I'll need to do frontal, side & rear sketches to outline how it would look Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3798847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Bring me more guns for my Clan brother :) Edited September 3, 2014 by Demon2027 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3798998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Bah! Stealth assault boats for my XX Legion! Â Get thee behind me, son of the headless one! Â :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 purely aquatic of will they have grav plates to 30k-ify it ? :P http://www.testfartygetsmyge.se/img/1994%20b_363x570.jpg  One of the images I found..though it looks more like a rhino with the door in the front sans tracks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 purely aquatic of will they have grav plates to 30k-ify it ? http://www.testfartygetsmyge.se/img/1994%20b_363x570.jpg  They already made one for 40k; it's Grimnar's sled. Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Oh...right...THAT...won't dwell on it...but the fact that they shoehorned in the fact that Russ *probably* used it during the Great Crusades / HH..irked me to no end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Wait, what? Where's the other one for Russ's right foot? Â :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) I'll try and find the quote... and yeah he'd probably need 3 one for each foot and a third to sit on.   Found it~~!! -_-"  Stormrider is Logan Grimnar’s chariot, a relic from the time of the Great Crusade. It was from Stormrider’s fighting platform that Leman Russ first addressed the Space Wolves Chapter. It now bears golden murals of Logan Grimnar’s greatest battles. This one shows him fighting a Chaos champion on Armageddon.   From the 11th of Aug. What's New page on GW proper...though considering where this info came from, it's rather easily dismissed. Edited September 4, 2014 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 It is funny how many relics left behind by the primarchs are far to small for them to have used. Guess thats why they were left. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 "UGH! These lightning claws are really starting to chafe! I'm outta here!" Primarch Corvus Corax moments before his departure from the Raven Guard.   I tried to think of something more fitting but couldn't find one :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Lol, chafing is an issue for lightening claws. Also, not great for recently pedicured hands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 "UGH I CHIPPED A NAIL AGAIN!?! Sorry Empy-daddy, but I'm OUTTA HERE!" ...but yeah :P back to armored vehicles... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Can we not use any current 40k lore references  Most likely the emps presented Russ the chariot and he went "bitch please" I ain't gonna be seen dead in that or riding a wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3799662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Or it could be a relic of the tribe he took charge of and he out grew it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3800209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I would avoid giving the Recon vehicle Open Topped as that then turns it into an Assault Vehicle, something which goes against the feeling of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3800353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I know it's been many evenings, but NL/Salamander tank, Sicaran Chassis, chain blade dozer and an oversized flame cannon, with torrent, str7 ap 3, maybe Volcanis in it's name somewhere, thats my 12% Iron Hands Fanatic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3801421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Right - with the release of the Deredeo and references at the Horus Heresy Weekender to the final of the 3 Contemptor types (which I highly supsect will be called the Furibundus considering their current naming conventions) I've altered the names again. Becuase IA 2 Volume 2 mentions that the Lucifer was the precursor to the Contemptor used for breaches, I've reinstated the Lucifer dread's name, as the smaller frame works for Zone Mortalis & the design could easily be the design base for the Contemptor. This means that I've had to change the Space Crusade dread's designation: I've created a new Malevolant dread, based off the Space Crusade dread - one pattern of which was called the Malevolant in the Mission: Dreadnought expansion. Because no existing dreads are really like it, I've used some components from current FW HH models to tie it in - the 'cowl' is basically the frontal housing from the Outrider bike, and the two main weapon mounts are exactly the same as those on the Javelin / Deimos Predator - just with a slightly lengthened 'arm'. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/Elites2.jpg LEGION LUCIFER DREADNOUGHT TALON: A hybrid of Terran and Martian design, the Lucifer pattern Dreadnought was first prototyped in the decade following the final conquest of Sol, as the Legions claimed the Segmentum Solar for the Imperium. Drawing from the myriad Dreadnought designs utilised by pre-unification humanity, as well as the plethora of Battle Automata within the Mechanicum’s arsenal, the Lucifer integrated a basic pattern of atomantic reactor – variants of which would be used for a number of specialised vehicle designs throughout the Great Crusade. Although featuring fewer advanced systems than the later Contemptor pattern - believed to have been developed from the Lucifer design - the Lucifer still saw considerable use in the later days of the Crusade, with its smaller size and enhanced frontal armour specilaising it for use within void craft and fortifications, providing a niche that would see it endure some of the fiercest fighting of the Heresy. Legion Lucifer Dreadnought: WS: 5 BS: 5 S: 6 Armour: 12/11/10 I: 4 A: 2 HP: 3 Unit Composition: 1-5 Lucifer DreadnoughtsUnit Type: Vehicle (Walker)Wargear: Smoke launchers Search light Extra armour Armoured ceramite Heavy bolter Servo-mounted twin-linked bolter Dreadnought close combat weapon Special Rules: Dreadnought TalonOptions: Any Lucifer Dreadnought in the Talon may replace its heavy bolter with one of the following:-Multi-melta -Reaper autocannon -Volkite culverin -Plasma cannon -Lascannon -Conversion beamer Any Lucifer Dreadnought in the Talon may replace its Dreadnought close combat weapon with one of the following:-Chainfist -Siege Wrecker Any Lucifer Dreadnought in the Talon may replace its servo-mounted twin-linked bolter with one of the following:-Rotor cannon -Heavy Flamer -Heavy bolter -Plasma blaster -Missile launcher (frag, krak and flak missiles) Servo-mount: So long as the Lucifer Dreadnought is eligible to fire a weapon in the shooting phase, the Servo-mount grants the mounted weapon a single additional attack that does not count towards the number of ranged attacks the Dreadnought may make each turn, and may be made against a separate target. [REDACTED: COGNOMEN 'DEREDEO' EXPUNGED FROM ALL RECORDS] http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/Elites2.jpg LEGION MALEVOLANT DREADNOUGHT TALON: The first Imperial Dreadnought to be mass-produced for use by the nascent Legions, the design of the Malevolant was almost entirely drawn from Terran specifications, which explains why it diverged so significantly from later patterns – at least in appearance – which all relied heavily upon the Mechanicum’s expertise. Despite this factor, the Malevolant did gain a number of advantages from the Imperium’s alliance with the Martian Mechanicum – namely much more advanced materials for its construction, and a number of mechanical sub-assemblies which dwarfed any available to Imperial engineers on Terra in terms of efficiency at the time. Field-tested in the last wars of Terran Unification, the Malevolant was deemed extremely successful in its role during the conquest of the Segmentum Solar, leading to the development of many subsequent patterns of Dreadnought that would ultimately go on to virtually replace the Malevolant as the Great Crusade progressed. Legion Malevolant Dreadnought: WS: 4 BS: 5 S: 6 Armour: 12/12/10 I: 4 A: 2 HP: 3 Unit Composition: 1-3 Malevolant DreadnoughtsUnit Type: Vehicle (Walker)Wargear: Smoke launchers Search light Twin-linked heavy bolter Twin-linked volkite caliver Special Rules: Dreadnought TalonOptions: Any Malevolant Dreadnought in the Talon may replace its twin-linked heavy bolter with any two of the following:-Heavy bolter -Cyclone missile launcher -Autocannon -Lascannon -Conversion beamer Any Malevolant Dreadnought in the Talon may replace its twin-linked heavy bolter with the following:-Twin-linked cyclone missile launcher -Twin-linked autocannon -Twin-linked lascannon Any Malevolant Dreadnought in the Talon may replace its twin-linked volkite caliver with the following:-Twin-linked rotor cannon -Twin-linked multi-melta -Twin-linked heavy flamer -Twin-linked heavy bolter Any Malevolant Dreadnought in the Talon may replace both its twin-linked heavy bolter and its twin-linked volkite caliver with the following:-Quad heavy bolter Any Malevolant Dreadnought in the Talon may select:-Extra armour -Armoured ceramite Edited March 13, 2015 by Iron Hands Fanatic Cactus, spu00sed, Kizzdougs and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3809550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 love the lucifer, deredeo and furibundus dreads :P, but i still hope that forgeworld will do them after the other legions stuff is done. But awesome drafts, i would image them the same as you (space crusade dreads as lucifer wuahwuah!). Â good work, keep it up =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3809599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 So much win! I'm going to have to try my hand at recreate these for 40k centurions counts as. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3809654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/wwOdbCnl.jpg  +++ IDENTIFICATION ACKNOWLEDGED +++ helterskelter and BassWave 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295603-30k-vehicleautomata-concepts-the-manufactorum/page/5/#findComment-3809775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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