knife&fork Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I've been toying with the idea of fielding some chapter serfs along with my BA. It's not something you see very often but maybe it should be a little more common if you go by the fluff? With the picture that came out today of the new 30k imperial army from FW I've also found models that I think fits. http://i.imgur.com/Sl46eDN.jpg What do you think about this idea? Should there be a marine (perhaps a techmarine when get they get IC) to lead them? It seems most likely that you would find them as rear guard support and not at the front. I think they would fit best in a fire support type of list for this reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Scrymgeour Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 they definitely look like they could handle the radiation of Baal. go for it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3802939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Whoah those are cool models. What's the fluff on our serfs? I thought they were non-combatants? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3802948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I think this is a great idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3802983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Whoah those are cool models. What's the fluff on our serfs? I thought they were non-combatants? Chapter serfs are treated very differently from chapter to chapter. For BA themselves they are said to be highly trained in different duties, one of those being the defence of the monastery, chapter fleet or other BA assets if needed. Probably at veteran guardsman level or above. Well equipped and treated with respect, similar to how military personnel with non combat duties are treated in real world armed forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 The other pics: http://i.imgur.com/cV7NoPY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZF7DHxL.jpg To me these could support a detachment of techmarines manning support weapons (servitors are probably not the only kind of help you need). Or perhaps sanguinary priests in a sort of staging area/medical unit that has come under attack? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Interesting stuff, think you've hit a great idea for sure. What paint scheme are you thinking of? Guard style maybe camo with BA touches or all red or something else? Yep definitely an awesome idea, tactically like having IG...sheesh sorry, AM allies but as part of the primary detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'm thinking a rather flat and dull red with lots of golden bronze. Add a liberal amount of BA iconography, perhaps simply a blood drop. I want them to look old since they are likely relics from the legion days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I think its a great idea K&F, the fluff is there the 5th edition dex has some on the cover after all EDIT: Id also say these would go great for a heresy army as Baalite Rad-suit soldiers :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Neat models. I would consider running the serfs either as scouts or allied IG. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 I think the scouts are a little too good stat wise :P S/T 4 is super human levels after all. But it's a good idea in case you can't use the official Solar Auxilia rules (have these even been published yet?) or allies are nerfed for whatever reason! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You might consider either allied Astra Militarum or Tyrant's Guard for Chapter serfs (the latter being especially useful if you want Adeptus Astartes "minders" for the serfs). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mapple Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 May I suggest Scions, or Militarum Tempestus, for the rules? I love that book. They would be deep striking serfs - and wouldn't even the serfs of Blood Angels be able to jump out of planes and deep strike? They would have good gear and be "elite" enough in armament as well. They complement the movement and speed of Blood Angels well and don't lack punch either with hot shots and lots of special weapons. The only problem I see you having is figuring out their transport - if you want "chapter" Valkyries or Unbound them to go in more stormravens, etc. Or else, just deep striking without transport. And as allies, they'd be Obj Sec'd. You can get 10 guys with vox and 2 plasma guns for 165pts. Add a command squad with vox and 2x of the salvo S4 hot shot guns for 110pts. Then you can have some rending/twinlinked/sniper AP3 guns. Good times. Edit: And drop pod with locator beacons? Yes, Scions LOVE them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296404-chapter-serfs/#findComment-3803195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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