spafe Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 vet squads are individual squads, not part of a platoon. if your taking a platoon then at elast 2 of those squads need to be normal inf not vets. I would also put either a spec and/or heavy wep in each inf squad so they can do something. Give the ccs a vox caster at least, otherwise its pointless having voxs in the inf squads the pask I would give to a punisher not a standard russ. OR a demolisher to accomany the other demo you have. Also pask is 65 in total, as you ahve to pay for the tank commander and then pask upgrade (him and his firend are also a hq choice at that point) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3828300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm a little confused by your list layout. Do you have a platoon command squad Guardsman equipped with a medi-kit and heavy flamer? You can only have one upgrade per trooper, so the squad has room for one HWT and two upgrades. The list could do with a bit of a reformat to make it clearer and easier to read so we know who is equipped with what. For example: Veteran Squad (10 men) - vox caster - autocannon HWT Chimera Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3828313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Gordnikson Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Sorry about that, I'll keep it neater in the future HQ Krom Dragongaze 135pts Tank Commander Pask 70pts Command Squad -vox caster 65pts Psyker: Njal Stormcaller lvl 3 180pts Infantry (SW) 1x Pack BC (9) -plasma pistol -powerfist -one wolf guard leader w/ thunder hammer and storm shield 203pts 1x Pack BC (8) -plasma pistol -powerfist -one wolf guard leader w/ thunder hammer and boltgun 191pts 1x Pack GH (10) -2x flamers -8 boltguns 214pts 5x WGT -2x chainfist -powerfist -wolf claw -frost sword -assault cannon -4x storm bolters 250pts Infantry (IG) Platoon Command Squad (115) Platoon Commander (Standard layout) Guardsman -Heavy Flamer Guardsman -Vox Caster -Lasgun HWT -autocannon (55pts) Infantry Squad 1 (8 man) -Vox caster HWT (2 man) -Autocannon 65pts Infantry Squad 2 (8 man) -Vox caster HWT (2 man) -Autocannon 65pts Infantry Squad 3 (8 man) Vox caster HWT (2 man) -Autocannon 65pts 1x Heavy Weapons Squad -Autocannon -2x lascannon 95pts Fast Attack (SW) 2 pack of 3 TWC 1st Pack: -3x storm shields -thunder hammer -2x chain sword 195pts 2nd Pack -3x Storm shields -power fist -2x chain sword 185pts 1 Pack FW 10x FW 80pts 2x Hellhounds 250pts 3x Chimeras 195pts 2x Wyverns 130pts 3x Lemun Russ' 530pts 1x Lemun Russ battle tank 150pts 2x Lemun Russ Demolisher 340pts 3328pts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3828929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Gordnikson Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Total Price with paints 1,354AUD This may take a while Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3828936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spafe Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I assume pask is meant for the 2 demolishers? I would also pack a spec or heavy into the ccs as then you can make use of their bs4 (they can fire out roof of chrimera so stay safe too!) The autocannon in the pcs could be moved to the ccs, then tehy can move forwards with the heavy flamer... or I'd drop the heavy flamer as they arent likely to want to close so its unlikely to get much use Otherwise the guard units look solid. Although it is a bit of an odd points total to be aiming for lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3828998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Thanks, that's much easier to follow :) I agree with spafe, and would also like to know what tank is Pask riding in? Certainly should be able to do quite well on the table top, though it is Apocalypse sized in points! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Gordnikson Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Pask is going to be in the demolisher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Feels like a waste of Pask just to get a re-roll on a Demolisher, especially when all other Russ tanks are cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Gordnikson Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 So what tank do you recommend for Pask? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Most people agree that Pask is a beast in a Punisher, and makes for a potent tank hunter in a Vanquisher and a good transport murderer in an Exterminator. He needs a complementary squadron mate though this isn't essential if you use his orders to split their fire. I think a third Russ in his squadron isn't necessary so you can save some points there. A Punisher with heavy bolters is the most common Pask build because it's very effective. It will annihilate most things it shoots at, but the Vanquisher with a hull lascannon will inflict heavy damage on armour. What role do you have in mind for him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Gordnikson Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Definitely armour destroying, and the other Russ I'm going more towards infantry and light armour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Vanquisher will do mean things to heavy armour, but if you want a more generalist take the Punisher. Pask will blast through all armour types with rending and weight of dice and can even turn his hand to aircraft - he'll also be great at scything down infantry too of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RADU LYKAN Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 the punisher is the best tank to put pask in because the internet says so the combination of rending and 20 dice pushes the maths in his favour against everything 24inch range is the only negative to that,(and fluff, i dont care how good a shot you are etc you still cant put what is essentially a weaker version of a heavy bolter shell through a frikkin land raider) due to the 24 inch main gun i have read a lot of people use multimelta sponsons and a lascannon hull gun, cuts down on shots v heavy bolters but nukes armour even knowing it is the better choice my pask is going in a vanquisher because a tank hunter should have an anti tank gun not a suped up multi barrelled pea shooter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Careful saying that even in jest :P Just like customers the Internet is only right when it's right ;) I'm sure Pask will be changed again next codex, so best to make the most out of him while we can! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3829919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Gordnikson Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Good news, I was talking to a friend of mine at my local GW and he said that he has no use for his old SW army so he's going to be providing me with 16 GH, 8 WG and more, he's just forgotten the rest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3830018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Careful saying that even in jest Just like customers the Internet is only right when it's right I'm sure Pask will be changed again next codex, so best to make the most out of him while we can! Consider that it takes one popular guys give an opinion and it is going to spread like fat guy at the cinema. A lot of misinformation can be spread. I do consider Pask Punisher to be the best option, but there are plenty that prefer Vanquisher in their list. It all comes down to your list. Having Jesus in your list won't help if your list won't support him right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3830429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Gordnikson Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 I'm not sure if you guys have heard of this site, but I'm most likely going to be purchasing all my 40k from here: http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/ It cuts the price in half for us Aussies anyway and anyone else will save so much more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3830645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RADU LYKAN Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 just be aware wayland can take a long time to send you your order, my brother in law waited over a month before cancelling the order, in all that time it was still never marked as dispatched, great savings but dont go there if you are in a rush Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3830669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 That's what we're here for Immer - to stop the lies spread by traitors and heretics and fight back with the light of the truth and the Emperor :P Wayland are pretty good, I used to shop with them but as RADU says they've grown a bit too large now and seem to struggle with maintaining stock for despatch. Saving money is good, but in return you must be patient! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3830716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I have had long delays with Wayland Games but I was usually not in a rush for the models so was happy to continue then a parcel went missing in the post. Now I understand that this can happen but the after sales service was simply shocking Long story short I lost my money on the order and, after some heated emails, vowed to take my business elsewhere - in fact to Element Games and so far they have been excellent. Ordered, shipped next day, arrived in Germany 2 days later.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3830764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I'm not sure if you guys have heard of this site, but I'm most likely going to be purchasing all my 40k from here: http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/ It cuts the price in half for us Aussies anyway and anyone else will save so much more! Be aware, Wayland are not allowed to ship GW models to Australia. Due to the GW trade terms we regret to inform customers that we can only ship this product to the following countries: Austria, Belgium, BFPO Addresses, Bulgaria, Channel Islands, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Isle of Man, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. Orders of this product to countries other than those listed will result in the item being cancelled from the order and your payment for it refunded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3830765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Gordnikson Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 I literally just realised this Thank god I have my family in Ireland eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3830791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I suppose family have their uses sometimes :P It'll be worth calculating costs involved for getting it shipped out from Ireland, just in case it doesn't work out cheaper in the long run. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297559-space-wolf-imperial-guard-army/page/3/#findComment-3831484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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