bluntblade Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Nah, I'd limit "warboys" to the scouts. Given the high attrition rate, perhaps the Berserkers could use the equivalent of Heresy armour, to make recycling easier. Looking more at Tyberos... damn, I like those hooked claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4352962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Also if Slynnat gets a model (he'll get a "you traitored him!" moment with Nux eventually) I'm leaning towards him having a power fist or claw. I hope bu the time Slynnat & Nux meet again Nux has become a Nightguard while his old friend has become one of the Architects (the Old Blood warriors), that'd be an awesome fight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4353166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 That's probably where it's going. I'm wondering if Slynnat could become this 'verse's chosen of Khorne, so we'll see. Actually, for Slynnat I'm now thinking something like the Blades of Chaos or a spear. The 'traitored" scene could be during the attack on the Shepherds, with the fight cut short and resumed years later. Say Raktra, any ideas for the name of the Destroyers' "Chapter"? Thinking something that would refer to their status as those who go further than anyone else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4353210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 I screwed about with rules for Innorvak post-Old Blooding, who will now replace Dorran. I made him VEEEERY strong, so let's try and balance him out. WS:7 BS:5 S:5 T:5 W:4 I:5 A:4. LD:10 Sv:2+ Unit Composition 1 (Unique) Unit Type Infantry (Character) Wargear Boiler-pattern terminator armour Atrocity Grenade harness Rad cleanser Special Rules LA: BoU Independent Character Blood is Eternal The Barren Zealot Master of the Legion Atrocity - S+1, AP2, melee, armourbane Boiler-pattern armour - 2+/4++, enemy models in first round of assault suffer -1T The Barren - model is immune to effects of rad grenades/furnaces Blood is Eternal - when this model would suffer instant death, it instead loses two wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4354017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 maybe make the weapon he carries -1 Ininiative? maybe 3 wounds? the rest looks good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4354019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 And fluff. +++++ As befits a Legion with the Berserkers’ fearsome reputation, the VIIth takes a very different approach to its Destroyers. The Ghost Walkers are known for readily fielding these fearsome warriors, but the sons of Raktra go much further. Destroyers are revered for going further than any others in bringing ruin to the Legion's foes, and are numerous enough to be grouped into their own warband, similar to a Chapter in more orthodox Legions. While their awful relic-weapons are rarely needed, their unyielding brutality means they are found at the forefront of almost every offensive the Berserkers launch. They are easily distinguished from their brethren by the state of their warplate. Berserkers typically maintain their armour with as much care as other Astartes, the better to display fresh blood. The Blood Boilers care nothing for such practices, given the scarring that their weapons inflict on their wargear and flesh, keeping only their left shoulder guards clear to display the Legion's heraldry and ensuring that the armour remains functional. The rest of their plate carries the marks of nuclear and alchemical weapons, and is coated in old, burned viscera. Beneath the armour the Destroyers are often every bit as disfigured as their wargear. Combined with the Berserker practice of coating oneself in the ashes of slain enemies, they present a terrible appearance, like apparitions of Old Night. A few Legions respect them, but they have few friends among their cousins, and many refuse to fight alongside them. In one such episode, Lord Mashyan of the Morning Stars pulled his entire force out of a campaign in protest at their involvement. The Dominator assigned to lead them is one of the most infamous warriors in the Legiones Astartes. Riktus Innorvak was originally plucked from Cthonia to serve as a Shepherd of Eden, achieving the rank of Captain. However an arduous career, terrible injuries and a growing discontent with his prospects for advancement left him embittered. Consequently, he willingly embraced the vicious culture of the Berserkers after Raktra assumed command. In the decades that followed, he has gained a reputation for brutality even among the sons of the White Devil. He is easily recognisable by his huge stature- he requires armour modified to fit his vast frame- and bestial prosthetic jaws, a legacy of the awful injuries he sustained under the fangs of an Ork warrior. Besides the marks of his brotherhood, he also bears the chains and black grease on his upper face that signify the rank of Dominator. Whenever the Blood Boilers take the field, Innorvak can be found at their head, leaving devastation in his wake. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4354023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Cripes, I copied over the original version rather than the edit. Let's try this again (with some additional changes): Riktus Innorvak - 265pts Hand of the Devil, The Barren, Dominator of the Blood BoilersWS:7 BS:5 S:5 T:5 W:4 I:5 A:4. LD:10 Sv:2+ Unit Composition1 (Unique) Unit TypeInfantry (Character) WargearBoiler-pattern terminator armourAtrocityGrenade harnessRad cleanser Hell's Teeth Special RulesLA: BoUIndependent CharacterBlood is EternalThe BarrenMaster of the Legion Bulky Warlord TraitLet the Monster Rise Wargear Atrocity - S+1, AP2, melee, armourbane, weighted - Weighted: Attacks with this weapon are performed at -1I. Boiler-pattern armour -2+/4++, enemy models in first round of assault suffer -1T Special Rules The Barren - This model is immune to effects of rad grenades/furnaces Blood is Eternal - When this model would suffer instant death, it instead loses two wounds. Let the Monster Rise- This model receives both the Fearless and Hatred special rules. This model must be the warlord unless the Primarch Raktra is present. Still kinda feeling the W4, but that's mainly because he's supposed to be an already big guy before he gets blood doped. But if that's deemed OP (after points cost is decided), then I'll definitely drop it to 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4354434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Are the Architects the same thing as the stronger Old Blood warriors? A Nux vs Slynnat teaser is forming in my head, but I'm not sure how Slynnat should look. My gut says something leaner and more feral than a Gal Vorbak, but he also wants the sort of weapons that would make sense fighting a character with a longsword. Here's the teaser: “Filth.” Nux turned, slightly raising his sword. Unmistakable, yet almost unrecognisable. It was hard to put a finger on what he could recognise, apart from the mad eyes and what had once been the muzzle. Perhaps something of the scar patterns along the face remained, warping through the ceramite. Through the haze of ascension, he could still remember how they'd played as boys in the street. Pretending to knights, fighting monsters on worlds where life was worth more. Now here they were, a knight set against a daemon. “I’m flattered. You still care enough to do this personally, even now.” “Raktra commands it.” Slynnat’s voice was inhumanly guttural, and there was something else. Another voice issued from that throat in perfect time with the Berserker’s words. “He doesn't forget those that traitor him.” “What was there to betray? We never chose to follow him. We were bred to be the killers he wanted, and he shackled us when we became Astartes.” He grimaced as he took in the extent of the corruption in front of him. “Now you're bound to something else. I see the presence that twisted you into this.” The huge jaws twisted into a sneer. “You're as blind as ever. This is freedom, the freedom to take what should be ours. We have liberated ourselves from the restraints that He placed on us.” “You're just the same thugs you always were,” Nux growled. “Killing everyone and everything.” “We are not to blame!” spat Slynnat. Nux thumbed the power stud, and violet light rippled along Marek’s edge. He allowed the sadness to show on his face as he hefted the sword. “Then who killed the Galaxy?” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4354956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 The Architects is a stand-in title, it's a self-reference that I can't be bothered to explain because I'm mildly embarrassed by it. But yeah, they're the hulking Old Blood guys. And they fight barehanded, their hands go like the Wulfen's, so geet muscular claws. For appearances, I'm using the Khorne Skullreaper models as a base, so lower half armoured, top half bare and covered in chains etc. as usual. Add in patches of fur or exposed musculature as you see fit!Also I thought it was Innorvak with the muzzle, not Slynnat? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4355980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Nah, I changed my mind as Slynnat became his own character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Cool, keeps me right for modelling (y) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Oooh, can Slynnat have a Chelsea Smile like Nux's (the movie version) buddy Slit in Fury Road? Maybe Nux (the BotL one) gave it to him when the Shepards were fleeing the 'Zerkers at the outbreak of the Insurrection, the next time they meet being as Nightguard and Old Blood mutant respectively, with Slynnat still baring the scars? P.S. In case anyone doesn't know what a Chelsea Smile is, ask Heath Ledger's Joker how he got those scars... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 P.S. In case anyone doesn't know what a Chelsea Smile is, ask Heath Ledger's Joker how he got those scars... ;) A very interesting story^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Sanginius, where do you think that name and those scar patterns came from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Sanginius, where do you think that name and those scar patterns came from? Hmm? Do you mean Joker's or Slit's? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Slynnat's. I dunno if you saw the piece that introduced him or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Slynnat's. I dunno if you saw the piece that introduced him or not. I just re-read it, I don't see any mention of Slynnat having facial scars, Innorvak definitely, but nothing about Slynnat. Or do you mean the one above where Slynnat and Nux meet again? Because I know that's been altered to include his scars, although I believe I posted asking for them either before or as it was edited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I'd meant that the character was based on Slynnat from the start. It hadn't fit adding the scars at that point. I'm writing a quiet piece at the moment that will probably reference it, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Heh, you told me in a PM that he was based off Slit, wasn't public ;)So I'm gonna be mixing in a LOT of Bloodbound/Varanguard heads and parts onto these guys. Yes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 So I'm gonna be mixing in a LOT of Bloodbound/Varanguard heads and parts onto these guys. Yes? Well if the shoe fits... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4356992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 To clarify about the Architects- how far does the Old Blood affect them physically? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4373248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Sorry to bother you with this, but the links to some of your pictures are broken, including the one for the shoulder armour in the emblem's thread. Was it still basically a torn angel wing in chains ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4373343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 Goddammit, my links keep breaking everywhere at the minute. Yeah, it's the one broken/ragged wing wrapped in chains. @Blunt - cross a wulfen with a skullreaper and you're there. Random patches of mangy fur, gnarled talons, bone spurs and such poking through their skin, areas of exposed musculature. Obviously maaaassively built, almost primarch-sized on average, some bigger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4373763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 @Blunt - cross a wulfen with a skullreaper and you're there. Random patches of mangy fur, gnarled talons, bone spurs and such poking through their skin, areas of exposed musculature. Obviously maaaassively built, almost primarch-sized on average, some bigger. Any armour? I'm slightly wary of having Slynnat go the whole way with that stuff if he basically ceases to function as an Astartes. The Architects basically fill in for a Gal Vorbak-esque unit, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4373941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yeah, armour is, again, like a Wulfen. Not 100% covering, but still a heavy-ass suit. They are like GV, yeah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298232-il-vii-the-berserkers-of-uran-thread-1/page/19/#findComment-4373998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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