Tiger9gamer Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 so we all know the Raven Guard is almost defined by beaky armor, at least in modern day 40k. I want to know if they still used a lot of mark 2 armor, and would there still be corvus patterns in the heresy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yes. The Raven Guard used the MKVI pattern during field tests against eldar before the outbreak of the heresy, have ~1000 suits during the Dropside Massacre and get a big wave of MKVI armour from the Imperial Fists after Istvaan. They also make use of MKII, MkIII (breachers f.e.) and IV pattern during the last days of the Great Crusade and MK V during the heresy. (There even where Terran Veterans with Cataphractii pattern Terminator-armour, called "the Deliverers") http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/rgvetsgte1j6iganwr.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3840321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Also, its the Heresy. Do whachu' want homie! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3840349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 As above RG used all armour marks, but had the best supply of mkVI first. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3840431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 In one of the books it suggest that the raven guard were the fist to start making heresy armour. but I can't remember which book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3841276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrieker Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Either deliverance lost or raven's flight. A surviving techmarine (the one that eventually repairs corax's jumppack) doing a demo on an improvised 'improved' armour (supposed to be better against bolter rounds); i remember reading this too and thinking: this is how Mk V begins... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3841290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 In one of the books it suggest that the raven guard were the fist to start making heresy armour. but I can't remember which book it was deliverance lost Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3841938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 isn't heresy armor just other armors taped together after the battles? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3842148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 My understanding is, heresy armour is any mark of armour forged by the legions themselves or standard armour marks modified/ uparmoured by the legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3842744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 My understanding is, heresy armour is any mark of armour forged by the legions themselves or standard armour marks modified/ uparmoured by the legions. and prototype armour (mantilla pattern should became the classic MKV) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3842748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 My understanding is, heresy armour is any mark of armour forged by the legions themselves or standard armour marks modified/ uparmoured by the legions. and prototype armour (mantilla pattern should became the classic MKV) Or, really, any locally created power armour. The XIII Legion's Praetor plate comes to mind. Technically, that's Mk V plate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3842752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 i think heresy armour is any armour made or modified to withstand astartes weapons. thicker plates studs and more power cables to supply the demand of heavier armour ect all the mk's forge on mars were never design to withstand bolter shells or the accuratie that an astartes can fire them . the legions had to evolve their armour and tactics to deal with a new type or war and emamy (themselves). heresy armour may vary from suit to suit but they would have a common design of loads if studs extra plates and lots of power cables. thats the impression i get anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3842813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 isn't heresy armor just other armors taped together after the battles? The Mark V "Heresy" armor as released by Forge World is simply the "typical" look for that mark. In reality, Mark V encompasses any and all combinations of armor between Marks IV and VI. It is supposed to represent the Legions during the Horus Heresy, when they had to devise means of replacing their losses internally and largely independent of the Martian Forge Worlds. A suit of Mark II with Mark IV pauldrons and helmet? Mark V. A suit of Mark III with Mark VI thruster pack and Mark VI helmet? Mark V. So on and so forth. The point is represent a Legion force cut off from their regular supply chain and having to improvise from their armory and/or scavenge off the enemy dead in order to meet their demands. My personal rule: the shabbier and the more mismatching the better. Keep in mind that Mark V is what most Chaos Space Marines took into the Eye of Terror with them at the conclusion of the Horus Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298283-armor-sets-in-the-xixth-legion/#findComment-3842869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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