appiah4 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I'm thinking of a fun 2,000 List: Formation: Blood Angels HQ: Captain (Artificer Armor, LC/Glaive/Relic Blade, SM Bike) Troops: 2xTactical Squad in Rhino (Combi-Plasma, Plasmagun, Multi-Melta), 2x Tactical Squad in Heavy Flamer Razorback (Lightning Claw, Combi-Melta, Heavy Flamer) Elites: 10 Death Company (Boltguns, 2xPower Fist) in Drop Pod, 5x Terminators (Heavy Flamer), Furioso (Blood Talons, Heavy Flamer, Meltagun) Fast Attack: Bike Squad (Power Fist, 2x Plasmaguns, 2x Bolt Pistol) Heavy Support: Storm Raven (TL Lascannon, Multi-Melta, Hurricane Bolter), Baal Predator (HB Sponsons), Devastator Squad (4xML, Flak) Will trim as necessary to fit into 2,000 pts but I've made my mind up mostly :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I think a regular CAD and the Baal Formation in the book will be a pretty cool combination to be honest. A sprinkling of Ob Sec on one side, +1I all the time on the other side, FC across the board, with maybe a sprinkling of +1WS here and there. And that's before working out exactly what units to field until we know points and wargear options. Might give me a headache during the game trying to remember which has what but it's easy to mark one half on the table as you play. These used to be my Red Thirst markers for my units, but now they'll help differentiate my CAD from my add-ons (or vice versa). http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx54/SebJones_photos/Blood%20Angels/ThirstMarker1a.jpg http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx54/SebJones_photos/Blood%20Angels/ThirstMarker3a.jpg http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx54/SebJones_photos/Blood%20Angels/ThirstMarker2a.jpg Also, seeing the reaction to these leaks elsewhere, I so want to explain why this book is shaping up to be really good fun, with some excellent options and variation, but I don't have the energy to argue the point with people... there's just to many of them!!! It's the same pre-release reaction to a new codex that we see time and again, and it's a little bit depressing that this is the default every time. Oh well, I'm happy with it These are SO sick!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus Mortifer Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Also, quick query. If you take the formation for the +1I, I'm assuming I can join a Priest from my CAD during the game to a formation unit to benefit from both the Chalice effect and the always on Initiative? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 So, I do think it's worth nothing that the Elites slot might not be as crowded as it seems. With priests out of Elites and the possibility of expanded Elites availability in the special Detachment, it might not be as bad as it looks. Certainly, the weird lists are gone - no more six dreads! - but that doesn't mean your death company, your various veteran formations, etc, will never see the light of the FLGS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Still trying to digest these leaks whilst trying not to form an opinion on them as they probably only show half the story. In some cases it almost seems like change for change's sake... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus Mortifer Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 These are SO sick!!! Damnit! Ran out of likes. Cheers Mort. Figured I had to represent the BA artisanship in my Objective/Thirst markers when I made them - there's nothing like a good statuesque bust to represent artistry of our devillish side Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Still trying to digest these leaks whilst trying not to form an opinion on them as they probably only show half the story. In some cases it almost seems like change for change's sake... This is probably wise. Heck, we don't know for certain this information is accurate! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Also, quick query. If you take the formation for the +1I, I'm assuming I can join a Priest from my CAD during the game to a formation unit to benefit from both the Chalice effect and the always on Initiative? Definitely. (and small pedantic, but important, correction - a "formation" is a set of models/units, where as what the BA have is a unique BA Detchment - just correcting because we're probably going to get formations of BA too!!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 These are SO sick!!! Damnit! Ran out of likes. Cheers Mort. Figured I had to represent the BA artisanship in my Objective/Thirst markers when I made them - there's nothing like a good statuesque bust to represent artistry of our devillish side They are indeed very very cool, I might have to steal the idea sometime! =D Although it pains me a little to use so many awesome bitz on markers^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Also, quick query. If you take the formation for the +1I, I'm assuming I can join a Priest from my CAD during the game to a formation unit to benefit from both the Chalice effect and the always on Initiative? Definitely. (and small pedantic, but important, correction - a "formation" is a set of models/units, where as what the BA have is a unique BA Detchment - just correcting because we're probably going to get formations of BA too!!) Does a formation also get the special rules of the detachment it's in or are those separate? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reldn Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 All this talk of formations and detachments is making my head spin. Granted, I'm still all the way back in 5th Edition and 7th still seems like a complete mess to me. *laughs* I suddenly am really glad I'm in this just for the fluff and assembling a full company for grins instead of actually playing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Also, quick query. If you take the formation for the +1I, I'm assuming I can join a Priest from my CAD during the game to a formation unit to benefit from both the Chalice effect and the always on Initiative? Definitely. (and small pedantic, but important, correction - a "formation" is a set of models/units, where as what the BA have is a unique BA Detchment - just correcting because we're probably going to get formations of BA too!!) Does a formation also get the special rules of the detachment it's in or are those separate? A Formation is a "set" detachment with its own rules. So, sadly, no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Also, quick query. If you take the formation for the +1I, I'm assuming I can join a Priest from my CAD during the game to a formation unit to benefit from both the Chalice effect and the always on Initiative? Definitely. (and small pedantic, but important, correction - a "formation" is a set of models/units, where as what the BA have is a unique BA Detchment - just correcting because we're probably going to get formations of BA too!!) Does a formation also get the special rules of the detachment it's in or are those separate? A Formation is a "set" detachment with its own rules. So, sadly, no. OK. I think I get it now. Thank you!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus Mortifer Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Also, quick query. If you take the formation for the +1I, I'm assuming I can join a Priest from my CAD during the game to a formation unit to benefit from both the Chalice effect and the always on Initiative? Definitely. (and small pedantic, but important, correction - a "formation" is a set of models/units, where as what the BA have is a unique BA Detchment - just correcting because we're probably going to get formations of BA too!!) Good point and exactly what I meant to say. My excitement at this release means I'm thinking too fast for my fingers to type correctly - getting carried away again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus Mortifer Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 A while back I came across this (made by someone else), but it indicates nice and clearly what is what regarding Formations, Detachments and where the bonuses are. Hope it helps. http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx54/SebJones_photos/BattleForged_zpsdac07467.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Look what I found! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QetLUqrqoS8/VIcT0mR9zhI/AAAAAAAABVk/GNrAt25oGIY/s1600/Cover-01.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JUk10aCvlj0/VIcSloeM31I/AAAAAAAABUg/N_RNjkJ7c-E/s1600/01.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZPVAw6IHbNk/VIcSll6EGPI/AAAAAAAABUc/504JtkfvhMA/s1600/02.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VSrBxmW0q_E/VIcSmjt5UpI/AAAAAAAABVU/rLCb1FRTNpw/s1600/05.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uOymgDdwCyw/VIcSllXTgYI/AAAAAAAABUk/4-VjqRFoIog/s1600/03.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-idFJeZMu5YU/VIcSmYQuu3I/AAAAAAAABUo/_1p_KLvf_pk/s1600/04.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--Oaw2HtjuuE/VIcSnNVZN0I/AAAAAAAABUw/frQj8Vv41VU/s1600/Back.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 All this talk of formations and detachments is making my head spin. Granted, I'm still all the way back in 5th Edition and 7th still seems like a complete mess to me. *laughs* I suddenly am really glad I'm in this just for the fluff and assembling a full company for grins instead of actually playing. Reldn, REALLY recommend giving 7th a bash! Its really, really good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Regarding taking a second detachment to use obsec, I'm sure only troops from your primary detachment benefit from obsec. It does say this in the brb. So that means one bonus or the other :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nice combi-melta on that Librarian. Was browsing your blog too and the warseer rules dump is more complete there than on Natfka and BoLS which is nice to see :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nice combi-melta on that Librarian. Was browsing your blog too and the warseer rules dump is more complete there than on Natfka and BoLS which is nice to see I'm passionate about my boys in red! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 *sniff* Those terminators are just so beautiful... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Quite happy to see that they are Assault Terminators as it means I *may* buy them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Those assault termies are very nice. However if they are just assault termies, why do they have a banner? It's really weird. Also, what are the chances you get a few extra shoulder pads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Got excited then realised Mephiston was a Novel.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I will admit I pulled out my Blood Angels last night and looked sadly at my 40 jump Assault Marines. I had that too. Then I realised most of them are painted DC-style. Then I realised they are also gone from Troops. I'll find a way, I know I will! At least I can always field Cassus as a Troops-Dread. Quite a lot of my jumpers are blinged out with DC bits, so the suitable one will be into a bucket of Fairy Power Spray before a re-paint as DC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299805-the-new-what-will-2014-bring-thread/page/59/#findComment-3884314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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